SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 UEFA's Ultimate of Ultimate Teams UEFA traditionally offer their Ultimate Team of the Year around about this time every 12 months and this year coupled with that they've decided to also announce their Ultimate of Ultimates... In other words their opinion on the best XI in the 21st Century. There's a lot of household names there and they've put some of the out of position so as to fit in all those they wanted to... Maybe some of you think there are omissions, so who would you take out to put in. There's a lot of debate here for sure and a curious thing is that there are no Manchester United players unless you consider Cristiano as part of any United team. For me personally the most contentious part is Gerrard in for Scholes. Players selcted Iker Casillas (GK) - Real Madrid Carles Puyol (CB) - FC Barcelona Gerard Piqué (CB) - FC Barcelona Philipp Lahm (LB) - Bayern Munich Sergio Ramos (RB) - Real Madrid CF Xavi (CM) - FC Barcelona Steven Gerrard (RM) - Liverpool FC Andrés Iniesta (LM) - FC Barcelona Thierry Henry (LF) - Arsenal FC Cristiano Ronaldo (RF) - Real Madrid CF Lionel Messi (CF) - FC Barcelona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,542 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Ultimate shite. No Ronaldo or Ronaldinho are the glaring omissions. Take out Gerrard for Scholes for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Stan said: Ultimate shite. No Ronaldo or Ronaldinho are the glaring omissions. Take out Gerrard for Scholes for sure. What would you do to add Ronaldo and Ronaldinho? I'm also thinking Roberto Carlos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,557 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 21st century, or to put another way the best team of the last 17 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,542 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, SirBalon said: What would you do to add Ronaldo and Ronaldinho? I'm also thinking Roberto Carlos Take out Henry. If not Scholes, then take out Gerrard for Ronaldinho. Carlos is a great shout actually. I love Lahm but happily sacrifice him for Roberto Carlos. I'm not sure about Puyol and Pique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x 3,086 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Hmmm no Maldini in that backline. Don't know about that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 2,776 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 How is this selected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stan said: I'm not sure about Puyol and Pique. I'd swap Piqué for Maldini (just about though because Maldini's best years were much earlier) but Puyol for me is one of the greatest centre-backs of all time let alone the last 17 years of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, LFCMike said: How is this selected? coaches, captains and selected journalists within the UEFA zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Personally I'd have this; CASILLAS LAHM / DANI ALVES - MALDINI - PUYOL - ROBERTO CARLOS XAVI SCHOLES - INIESTA MESSI - RONALDO - C. RONALDO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,542 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Maldini came to mind as well but for the same reasons he was more classic 90s than 00s. My other choices were Nesta or Cannavaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,009 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, SirBalon said: UEFA's Ultimate of Ultimate Teams UEFA traditionally offer their Ultimate Team of the Year around about this time every 12 months and this year coupled with that they've decided to also announce their Ultimate of Ultimates... In other words their opinion on the best XI in the 21st Century. There's a lot of household names there and they've put some of the out of position so as to fit in all those they wanted to... Maybe some of you think there are omissions, so who would you take out to put in. There's a lot of debate here for sure and a curious thing is that there are no Manchester United players unless you consider Cristiano as part of any United team. For me personally the most contentious part is Gerrard in for Scholes. Players selcted Iker Casillas (GK) - Real Madrid Carles Puyol (CB) - FC Barcelona Gerard Piqué (CB) - FC Barcelona Philipp Lahm (LB) - Bayern Munich Sergio Ramos (RB) - Real Madrid CF Xavi (CM) - FC Barcelona Steven Gerrard (RM) - Liverpool FC Andrés Iniesta (LM) - FC Barcelona Thierry Henry (LF) - Arsenal FC Cristiano Ronaldo (RF) - Real Madrid CF Lionel Messi (CF) - FC Barcelona Van Nistelrooy was better in the Champions League then Henry, I believe Van Nistelrooy was 2nd in the list of scores behind Raul before Messi and Ronaldo came along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,009 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Personally I'd have this; CASILLAS LAHM / DANI ALVES - MALDINI - PUYOL - ROBERTO CARLOS XAVI SCHOLES - INIESTA MESSI - RONALDO - C. RONALDO Seedorf should easily be in there ahead of Scholes, Seedorf is one of the legends of the Champions, been in 6 finals and won the trophy with 3 different teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,009 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) These things are only picked on moments rather that performances over the length of time, to have Gerrard in the team of the last 17 years is a joke, he is only remembered for the team of 2005 thats it, Liverpool have not always been in the Champions league season after season. Also to have Henry in their is very laughable, he had his moments with Arsenal but only won it once with Barcelona. Edited November 21, 2017 by VanPaddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,876 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) There' the argument for Ronaldo too as he' never won it. Seedorf is nailed in for me. Edited November 21, 2017 by Cicero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,009 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: There' the argument for Ronaldo too as he' never won it. Seedorf is nailed in for me. Seedorf not been in there is just a joke, he is the most successful player of the Champions League history due to winning it with a number of clubs plus his final appearances also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, VanPaddy said: Seedorf not been in there is just a joke, he is the most successful player of the Champions League history due to winning it with a number of clubs plus his final appearances also. Do your XI then mate... It'll be interesting to see how you shift the side. This isn't easy and those who made the vote for UEFA to publish this have compromised many things so as to fit trademark names in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,876 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Eto'o C.Ronaldo--------------------Messi Iniesta---Xavi---Seedorf Maldini----Puyol---Pique----Alves Casillas Easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Seedorf is an interesting one but for me Scholes was superior. Obviously that's a very personal opinion because Paul Scholes really is one of my favourite players. But @Cicero is very good on that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,876 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Seedorf is an interesting one but for me Scholes was superior. Obviously that's a very personal opinion because Paul Scholes really is one of my favourite players. But @Cicero is very good on that one! We are judging by Champions League influence, not who are the superior players. Ronaldo would then easily be ahead of Eto'o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland 617 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Stan said: Ultimate shite. No Ronaldo or Ronaldinho are the glaring omissions. Take out Gerrard for Scholes for sure. I agree. Also Buffon and Neuer are better than Casillas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, Cicero said: We are judging by Champions League influence, not who are the superior players. Ronaldo would then easily be ahead of Eto'o But do you think those who voted in this only considered Champions League status? For me their original list seems to have taking a number of things into consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,876 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SirBalon said: But do you think those who voted in this only considered Champions League status? For me their original list seems to have taking a number of things into consideration. Those are the same mongs who continue to have Ronaldo win the Balon d'Or Edited November 21, 2017 by Cicero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cicero said: Those are the same mongs who continue to have Ronaldo win the Balon d'Or Well they've even compromised positions... They've put Ramos as a right-back where he hasn't played since 2007 and in that sense this would be Lahm's position or Dani Alves depending on the preference. Then so as to fit in Henry they've put Cristiano on the right where he played for United and yet put him in a Real Madrid kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,009 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, BartraPique1932 said: I agree. Also Buffon and Neuer are better than Casillas. Van der Sar is better than Casillas also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, VanPaddy said: Van der Sar is better than Casillas also. I get it mate, but that's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,009 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Do your XI then mate... It'll be interesting to see how you shift the side. This isn't easy and those who made the vote for UEFA to publish this have compromised many things so as to fit trademark names in. ----------------------Buffon Lahm---------Ramos---Puyol--Maldini ---------------------Xavi--------------------------- ------------Zidane----Seedorf Messi--------Raul---------C.Ronaldo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,009 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SirBalon said: I get it mate, but that's ridiculous. it was a joke. Edited November 21, 2017 by VanPaddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, VanPaddy said: ----------------------Buffon Lahm---------Ramos---Puyol--Maldini ---------------------Xavi--------------------------- ------------Zidane----Seedorf Messi--------Raul---------C.Ronaldo You prefer Zidane to Iniesta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,009 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, SirBalon said: You prefer Zidane to Iniesta? Yes of course, otherwise I wouldn't of put him in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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