Dave Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 This could get interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 22, 2018 Administrator Share Posted January 22, 2018 just about to post this. Happy with this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Blue said: Ugh. Why the negative attitude? Wouldn't you prefer the call to be right rather than save yourself 5 minutes at most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Eco said: Why the negative attitude? Wouldn't you prefer the call to be right rather than save yourself 5 minutes at most? Most of the time though the call isn't right - just ask any Australian. They have a huge grudge on VAR and for a good reason. I firmly believe in human decision without the use of machines anyhow. It could be right and I would still be against it because I prefer instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Blue said: Most of the time though the call isn't right - just ask any Australian. They have a huge grudge on VAR and for a good reason. Mate - You aren't Australian. Just now, Blue said: I firmly believe in human decision without the use of machines anyhow. It could be right and I would still be against it because I prefer instinct. I don't get that view point. The game is faster and more complex now than ever, the refs job is too difficult to do it on their own, so for that reason I'm all allowing VAR which will help us with certain situations are that almost impossible for humans to call with 100% certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Eco said: Mate - You aren't Australian. I don't get that view point. The game is faster and more complex now than ever, the refs job is too difficult to do it on their own, so for that reason I'm all allowing VAR which will help us with certain situations are that almost impossible for humans to call with 100% certainty. I've been in Australia and my friend from there told me pretty much everyone wants it gone from the A-League. And I don't want it to be meddled with. Sure the game is faster, but what good does it do anyone if its still a human decision and the referees are still incompetent? Its not like they aren't trained for these things. Referee decisions were never 100% anyways and it won't be with VAR either, or even near it. It will be the same as just having regular referees but with more inconsistencies and controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Alan Shearer's head will explode, we are somehow in for an even more unbearable BBC coverage of the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNORTHODOX Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 The more it is used the better it will get, Alan shearer went way over the top with his criticism of it the other week, I didn't even think it was a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 22, 2018 Administrator Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Blue said: I've been in Australia and my friend from there told me pretty much everyone wants it gone from the A-League. And I don't want it to be meddled with. Sure the game is faster, but what good does it do anyone if its still a human decision and the referees are still incompetent? Its not like they aren't trained for these things. Referee decisions were never 100% anyways and it won't be with VAR either, or even near it. It will be the same as just having regular referees but with more inconsistencies and controversy. how is it the same when it has rectified a lot of incorrect decisions anyway? Said time and time again that the concept of VAR is brilliant. The execution of it still needs work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Stan said: how is it the same when it has rectified a lot of incorrect decisions anyway? Said time and time again that the concept of VAR is brilliant. The execution of it still needs work. I don't like the concept but that's just my point of view. I prefer human instinct. Sure it can rectify a lot of decisions, but its too inconsistent. It also misses a lot of decisions and calls others. Personally that's my biggest grudge with it. It can get a lot of decisions wrong from incompetent referees but for me the biggest flaw calling some and missing others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 VAR's aload of shite and takes alot from the game. Goal line technology is fair enough, but that's it. We don't need it going any further. It also doesn't necessarily always guarantee it being the right call anyway. "No, the VAR was wrong, it's a fix and it's obvious the person behind the decisions is a Man United fan, it's a joke". Nothing will change in that regard, it will just make the sport a bit slower and more cringeworthy. "It works in Rugby and Tennis", ye, but both of those are wank sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 59 minutes ago, The Rebel CRS said: VAR's aload of shite and takes alot from the game. Goal line technology is fair enough, but that's it. We don't need it going any further. It also doesn't necessarily always guarantee it being the right call anyway. "No, the VAR was wrong, it's a fix and it's obvious the person behind the decisions is a Man United fan, it's a joke". Nothing will change in that regard, it will just make the sport a bit slower and more cringeworthy. "It works in Rugby and Tennis", ye, but both of those are wank sports. If Var was implemented Real Madrid wouldn't of won the CL last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 11:13, Blue said: Most of the time though the call isn't right - just ask any Australian. They have a huge grudge on VAR and for a good reason. I firmly believe in human decision without the use of machines anyhow. It could be right and I would still be against it because I prefer instinct. Like fuck. If VAR existed that wop cunt wouldn't have got a penalty for diving in '06. Yer mates a clueless cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 It shoukd just be a challenge system like the NHL. Managers or the captain gets to contest a decision anf if they get the decision wrong they lose the right to contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 26, 2018 Administrator Share Posted January 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Spike said: It shoukd just be a challenge system like the NHL. Managers or the captain gets to contest a decision anf if they get the decision wrong they lose the right to contest. there'll always be unhappiness about that though as 1 challenge won't be enough, then 2 won't be enough, then 3 etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Stan said: there'll always be unhappiness about that though as 1 challenge won't be enough, then 2 won't be enough, then 3 etc etc And people are unhappy now. No matter what someone is going to have a whinge. Talk about Americans you all like but they complain perhaps the least about these sort of things. They have bigger fish to fry, like the NFL unable to come to a consensus what constitutes a 'catch'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Spike said: And people are unhappy now. No matter what someone is going to have a whinge. Talk about Americans you all like but they complain perhaps the least about these sort of things. They have bigger fish to fry, like the NFL unable to come to a consensus what constitutes a 'catch'. We'll have the same thing. What constitutes a foul? If there's contact, is it sufficient to have brought the player down? Ultimately it's subjective, and therefore imperfect. To clarify though, while it is and always will be imperfect, I fail to see how VAR can be a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, Burning Gold said: We'll have the same thing. What constitutes a foul? If there's contact, is it sufficient to have brought the player down? Ultimately it's subjective, and therefore imperfect. To clarify though, while it is and always will be imperfect, I fail to see how VAR can be a bad thing. Overuse/over reliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 26, 2018 Administrator Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, Spike said: Overuse/over reliance. not if it's restricted to the 4 categories at the moment (goals, penalty decisions, mistaken identity, straight red incidents). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Spike said: Overuse/over reliance. Fair enough, but that's the implementation. I meant I don't see the concept as being a bad thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Stan said: not if it's restricted to the 4 categories at the moment (goals, penalty decisions, mistaken identity, straight red incidents). You just wait until it's used for every single time those incidents occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 26, 2018 Administrator Share Posted January 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Spike said: You just wait until it's used for every single time those incidents occur. i see it happen when I watch A-League and Serie A already. i can tolerate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 48 minutes ago, Stan said: i see it happen when I watch A-League and Serie A already. i can tolerate it. That is just you though... Not everyone likes sitting around an extra five minutes for a decision, and I've seen that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 As long as the correct decision is made by using VAR, then I’m all for it. I’ve seen it fail a couple of times though but then again this is all relatively new and if faith isn’t put in it then it will never become a more streamline system with practically no errors. Put it this way, as bad as referees seem to be at times, they do get over 95% of decisions correct along with their assistants which is almost perfect. If with VAR we can help referees to raise that to 98% or even 99%, then that’s a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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