Honey Honey Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 Lewis Grabban is joining Sunderland on loan from Bournemouth
Dave Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Ashley Fletcher joining Middlesbrough. That's going to be one of those deals that's going to either work really well like all of Huddersfield's loans did last season or we will realise his level is just Championship football. Personally I think he will be a good option for them up front. Kalas has rejoined Fulham on loan too. Astute deal for them. Surprised a bottom half Premiership club wasn't interested.
Toony Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Boro look good for bouncing straight back, put a lot of trust in Garry Monk letting him spend the amount of money he has but if the end result is promotion again then the money outlay means nothing. Going to be so competitive next season this league.
Honey Honey Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 They deliberately got relegated so should be best placed to bounce back.
Lucas Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Toony said: Going to be so competitive next season this league. Or is it? I guess we will see with Middlesbrough spending £45m to date on strengthening their squad. No doubt they will also spend more. If they walk it, that's one less promotion place.
Dave Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 23 hours ago, Lucas said: Or is it? I guess we will see with Middlesbrough spending £45m to date on strengthening their squad. No doubt they will also spend more. If they walk it, that's one less promotion place. Whilst I'll be surprised if they finish outside the top four at present I cant imagine them walking it. Reading, Fulham and Wednesday still look good and there was a collective of teams just outside the playoffs getting there shit together by the end of it.
Toony Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 16 hours ago, Lucas said: Or is it? I guess we will see with Middlesbrough spending £45m to date on strengthening their squad. No doubt they will also spend more. If they walk it, that's one less promotion place. I doubt they'll walk it though I do think they should be favourites for promotion at present. It's such a tough league, impossible to call who'll go up.
Honey Honey Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 Gary Monk is a bit of an arsehole so if they aren't walking it he will bite when questioned, could get tasty
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted July 29, 2017 Subscriber Posted July 29, 2017 Josh Coulson has just been loaned from Cambridge to Leyton Orient for six months. One of our key players when we got out of the Conference, should hopefully be a decent signing for you @Smiley Culture.
roversgirl Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 We're being linked with a move for Boro keeper, Connor Ripley, to replace Steele and add competition for Raya. He has had some impressive loan spells in the football league recently. He is also the son of ex-Rovers winger Stuart Ripley and he was in our academy previously. I would prefer someone with a bit more experience as Raya is still young, but Ripley does should a talent.
Dave Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 Tunnicliffe and Cooper confirmed by Milwall. They're building a team that should steer clear of relegation this season.
roversgirl Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 We've signed Shrewsbury's goalkeeper Jayson Leutwiler for an undisclosed fee. Shrewsbury fans seem gutted to have lost him so fingers crossed he is successful with us and provides much needed competition for David Raya. I hadn't heard of him until today but he was part of the Canada squad for this year's Gold Cup and he kept 23 clean sheets out of 46 games a couple of seasons ago as Shrewsbury got promoted to League One. Now we need a couple more strikers to balance the squad.
Dave Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Two young West Ham players who FM rate highly in Reece Burke and Josh Cullen are getting there chance on loan at Bolton next season. Good luck to them.
Honey Honey Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Bolton filling up on youth then because Adam Armstrong has gone on loan there as well
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted August 3, 2017 Subscriber Posted August 3, 2017 Should be a quality addition for Forest because I don't think he's that far from breaking into our first team. He needs to go and do the business for them though as too often, these loan players waste a season putting in average performances and come back in no better position than they were in the first place.
Storts Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Weird seeing better prospects being loaned out. We take a different approach. Anyone that Poch thinks could make it at Spurs stays with us in and around the squad. He thinks the best place to learn is under his guidance
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted August 3, 2017 Subscriber Posted August 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Storts said: Weird seeing better prospects being loaned out. We take a different approach. Anyone that Poch thinks could make it at Spurs stays with us in and around the squad. He thinks the best place to learn is under his guidance Yeah I can't remember many examples of players going out on loan from Premier League sides and coming back having improved enough to break into the first team. Certainly a very low percentage.
Storts Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Yeah I can't remember many examples of players going out on loan from Premier League sides and coming back having improved enough to break into the first team. Certainly a very low percentage. Yeah, seems to have been the old school approach, and therefore taken as some sort of gospel on developing players but not actually sure in this modern day league it's the right approach. Obviously there are many examples in the past, Defoe, Lampard, Ferdinand etc. but not sure going down to the lower leagues is always beneficial. Kane, Townsend etc. under previous management used to move from loan club to loan club, hard to say what impact that had on their career.
HK85 Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Yeah I can't remember many examples of players going out on loan from Premier League sides and coming back having improved enough to break into the first team. Certainly a very low percentage. Coleman is the last one for us, I'd say. That Blackpool loan done wonders for him.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted August 3, 2017 Subscriber Posted August 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Storts said: Yeah, seems to have been the old school approach, and therefore taken as some sort of gospel on developing players but not actually sure in this modern day league it's the right approach. Obviously there are many examples in the past, Defoe, Lampard, Ferdinand etc. but not sure going down to the lower leagues is always beneficial. Kane, Townsend etc. under previous management used to move from loan club to loan club, hard to say what impact that had on their career. Well in terms of our best prospects, Wayne Rooney, Jack Rodwell, Tom Davies, Dan Gosling, Victor Anichebe and Tony Hibbert all broke into the Everton first team without ever going out on loan. Leon Osman is the best example I can think of, going on loan to Carlisle and Derby County before coming back and featuring as a key player for many years. Barkley had a couple of loans at Sheffield Wednesday and Leeds (hardly played for the latter) which I don't think benefited him at all. There's loads of examples of players that never made it going out on loan and not seeming to make much improvement - Conor McAleny and Matthew Pennington most recently. It's hard to say though whether it would have been any different if they'd stayed at the club instead of going out on loan. My gut feeling is that loans only help the player improve significantly in very specific circumstances.
Dave Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 A lot of it depends on the manager and the club. At teams like Tottenham and Southampton that play a certain way and there's an opportunity to play and develop you're best off learning at the club but at teams like Watford with a high turnover of players and managers you may be better off going out on loan.
Toony Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 7 hours ago, RandoEFC said: Should be a quality addition for Forest because I don't think he's that far from breaking into our first team. He needs to go and do the business for them though as too often, these loan players waste a season putting in average performances and come back in no better position than they were in the first place. That's a good deal for them, thought he looked quality in the U20 World Cup, they've actually signed well this summer have Forest, fancy them for a decent season under Warburton. Daryl Murphy is guaranteed goals at this level.
Dave Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Toony said: That's a good deal for them, thought he looked quality in the U20 World Cup, they've actually signed well this summer have Forest, fancy them for a decent season under Warburton. Daryl Murphy is guaranteed goals at this level. I'm undecided based on what I've read about this new owner.
Toony Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Aaroncpfc said: I'm undecided based on what I've read about this new owner. Yeah he seems like a bit of a loose cannon, I do rate Warburton though and think he was harshly treated at Rangers.
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