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Devil-Dick Willie Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Ah, the inevitability engine that is Arjen Robben. He is a bit of a genius. However, the classic Barcelona 'pass it till they fall asleep from boredom and score' is hard to beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, Tanksie said: Ah, the inevitability engine that is Arjen Robben. He is a bit of a genius. However, the classic Barcelona 'pass it till they fall asleep from boredom and score' is hard to beat Robben has to be one of my favourite players of all time. The cunt is a wind up merchant to the extreme. Yeah, the Barca thing could be a bit much at times but sometimes it provided something incredible like that time they raped Real Madrid 6-2 or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Spike said: like that time they raped Real Madrid 6-2 I was at that game in the Santiago Bernabéu. One of the football highlights of my life which will never be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Never understood how Barca got a reputation for being boring. People obviously haven't seen enough properly boring football like the last Euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 32 minutes ago, Inverted said: Never understood how Barca got a reputation for being boring. People obviously haven't seen enough properly boring football like the last Euros. During their recent heyday, they prioritised possession for the sake of it, with attacking seemingly being an afterthought. It may require more skill, but 'tiki taka' was just as defensive, boring, and cowardly as the anti-football styles employed by the likes of Mourinho and Pulis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 The greatest tactics for the neutral viewer and the football enamoured I've ever seen in my view have both occurred in England. Ossie Ardiles' Spurs and Kevin Keegan's Newcastle Utd. I would avidly watch their games simply because they were brilliant and based on unadulterated attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, SirBalon said: The greatest tactics for the neutral viewer and the football enamoured I've ever seen in my view have both occurred in England. Ossie Ardiles' Spurs and Kevin Keegan's Newcastle Utd. I would avidly watch their games simply because they were brilliant and based on unadulterated attack. You can't dismiss that late 90s and early 00s Man Utd and Arsenal. Talk about bravado, aggression, and flair. Nothing like going on Youtube to watch Viera annihilate a midfield, pass a screamer up to Henry and watch him bury it with his left foot. Now that high-pace balls-to-the-walls is what I love in football. From a purely tactical standpoint, Tiki-Taka was the an amazing creation of patience and technicality. Was it fun to watch? Not really, aside from a few highlights it was too deliberate and slow to create any sort of excitement. Though the most fun football usually isn't the most tactically sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Barcelona from 09-12 were an absolute joy to watch. Found a pretty reliable study that if you disagree you have a small penis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Just now, Cicero said: Barcelona from 09-12 were an absolute joy to watch. Found a pretty reliable study that if you disagree you have a small penis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cicero said: Barcelona from 09-12 were an absolute joy to watch. Found a pretty reliable study that if you disagree you have a small penis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spike Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Spike Literally me. Especially the part with the fat white guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Spike said: You can't dismiss that late 90s and early 00s Man Utd and Arsenal. Talk about bravado, aggression, and flair. Nothing like going on Youtube to watch Viera annihilate a midfield, pass a screamer up to Henry and watch him bury it with his left foot. Now that high-pace balls-to-the-walls is what I love in football. From a purely tactical standpoint, Tiki-Taka was the an amazing creation of patience and technicality. Was it fun to watch? Not really, aside from a few highlights it was too deliberate and slow to create any sort of excitement. Though the most fun football usually isn't the most tactically sound Barcelona's initial Guardiola era I don't count as anything tactical... It wasn't based on any formation or any particular tactical awareness. I know it sounds overused and probably almost boring. That was and is a philosophy or a belief if you like. Those players were on the most part La Masia products and brought up on that from youth levels and it's simply a way of playing the game that took the world by storm. It took sides a while to get used to it or maybe those that were applying it got older and faded away as a generation. In saying this, I'm not taking Guardiola out of the equation because it would be easy to do so with what I've just said due to the fact he inherited a failing side, sold two big name players and supplied what you have referred to. He took Barcelona back to Cruyff basics with an adjustment toward the modern era. The two teams I mentioned coached by Osvaldo Ardiles and Kevin Keegan were based on formations and on a tactical plan... It didn't succeed (even less so Ardiles) but for me as a tactic it was the most entertaining football I have ever seen at club level. Much more so than Arsenal's because that was more balanced and based on part belief as is Barcelona's although not natural like the Blaugrana team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I remember Bielsa's Bilbao being stunning when they made that Europa run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Barcelona's initial Guardiola era I don't count as anything tactical... It wasn't based on any formation or any particular tactical awareness. I know it sounds overused and probably almost boring. That was and is a philosophy or a belief if you like. Those players were on the most part La Masia products and brought up on that from youth levels and it's simply a way of playing the game that took the world by storm. It took sides a while to get used to it or maybe those that were applying it got older and faded away as a generation. In saying this, I'm not taking Guardiola out of the equation because it would be easy to do so with what I've just said due to the fact he inherited a failing side, sold two big name players and supplied what you have referred to. He took Barcelona back to Cruyff basics with an adjustment toward the modern era. The two teams I mentioned coached by Osvaldo Ardiles and Kevin Keegan were based on formations and on a tactical plan... It didn't succeed (even less so Ardiles) but for me as a tactic it was the most entertaining football I have ever seen at club level. Much more so than Arsenal's because that was more balanced and based on part belief as is Barcelona's although not natural like the Blaugrana team. But the philosophy that was created is a tactic within itself. That is the very nature of a 'tactic', from la masia up to the first team a specific ideal is implanted in the trainees and that is the tactic. It isn't a mistkae that Barcelona cultivates a specific talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Greece 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 An Argentine posted this on 4chan today. Wonder what you guys think of it @SirBalon @Berserker It's a little silly but does it capture the dichotomy of Argie football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 I've read some amazing anecdotes on Bilardo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted April 14, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/13/2017 at 8:22 PM, SirBalon said: The greatest tactics for the neutral viewer and the football enamoured I've ever seen in my view have both occurred in England. Ossie Ardiles' Spurs and Kevin Keegan's Newcastle Utd. I would avidly watch their games simply because they were brilliant and based on unadulterated attack. How would you compare Monaco to that? Every time I catch a bit of Monaco the game is brilliant and they play some lovely football. Seeing Atletico Madrid in action as well made me appreciate how well organised they are as well. I've never felt less like we'll score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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