American Politics Discussion

[Stan]

7 minutes ago, Claret and Blue said:

Biden of course is the preacher of the gospel. 

Doesn't mean anything Trump does is any better... 

[Claret and Blue]

2 minutes ago, Stan said:

Doesn't mean anything Trump does is any better... 

Said it before they are all full of shit and out for themselves in the main. Same with the the clowns running this shit hole. 

 

 

I won't be voting for any of them Starmer won't so any better.. 

 

 

America and England run by tossers 

[Spike]

‘Trump tends to lie’
’YEAH BUT  BIDEN DOES TOO’

Good talk guys, constructive. Maybe next we can discuss feudalism in the dark ages,,

[Claret and Blue]

10 minutes ago, Spike said:

‘Trump tends to lie’
’YEAH BUT  BIDEN DOES TOO’

Good talk guys, constructive. Maybe next we can discuss feudalism in the dark ages,,

Yeh or post a 100000 paragraph post and say absolutely fuck all but hey whatever floats your boat 

[Spike]

1 minute ago, Claret and Blue said:

Yeh or post a 100000 paragraph post and say absolutely fuck all but hey whatever floats your boat 

467 posts and I'm still waiting for you to say more than fuck all.

[Claret and Blue]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

467 posts and I'm still waiting for you to say more than fuck all.

You'll be waiting a long time. 

 

Thousands of posts and I'm still waiting for you to say something funny.. 

 

We live in hope though.. 

[Spike]

Just now, Claret and Blue said:

You'll be waiting a long time. 

 

Thousands of posts and I'm still waiting for you to say something funny.. 

 

We live in hope though.. 

Thousands of posts I'd be surprised if you read 50 of them. Try harder old man.

[Whiskey]

Sent you a PM @Spike

[Claret and Blue]

Just now, Whiskey said:

Sent you a PM @Spike

Grass 

[Spike]

Just now, Whiskey said:

Sent you a PM @Spike

I didn't get it, I'm on mobile.

[Whiskey]

23 minutes ago, Spike said:

I didn't get it, I'm on mobile.

Thanks for the reply @Spike. Will send your comments to the council members for further discussion.

Sorry about the PM mix up, didn't realise you were an SMS user. I had you down as being on tablet on the directory.

[Spike]

4 minutes ago, Whiskey said:

Thanks for the reply @Spike. Will send your comments to the council members for further discussion.

Sorry about the PM mix up, didn't realise you were an SMS user. I had you down as being on tablet on the directory.

Ta mate, is there anyway you can load an email on my phone. It is a Nokia

[Whiskey]

Just now, Spike said:

Ta mate, is there anyway you can load an email on my phone. It is a Nokia

Give me 10 minutes, can you PM me which posts you want emailing over and I'll put them into a zip file? 

[Harry]

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I don't think Harris will really have a chance either. She's sort of been an invisible VP - which just feels weird, even though they don't really have any power other than breaking ties in senate votes. And she's tied to an unpopular administration. Maybe she'd have a chance if it was her vs. that religious fruitcake Pence, but there's no way Pence ever comes close to political relevance again either.

I think the republicans are going to nominate DeSantis and then he'll be up against Biden. Biden won his last election not because people really like him or anything, but just because a lot of people really hate Trump. I don't think the dems will primary (try to replace) their presidential candidate before an election, just because I don't think that's ever happened before.

And if it ends up being Trump v Biden again, I think it's just a toss up - there's people enough people who hate both of them that they'd probably just not be inclined to vote. But no third party has a chance, so it'd be one of them.

But I think DeSantis is nailed on for the presidency. Democrats don't really have much unity in terms of the direction of the country, DeSantis has this Trump-like cult of personality spreading through the US media so he's getting a lot of national popularity... and Biden's just not that popular of a president.

I think the democrats biggest hope is that the abortion stuff motivates people to vote for democrats to reduce the odds of a US nationwide ban on abortion. But voters in most first world countries have attention spans shorter than goldfish and what's a political issue now is probably not going to be covered in the news in a presidential election 2 years from now.

I think De Santis will only have a chance if Trump is indicted tbh. If Trump contests the primary hell be hard to beat and if he loses he'll make De Santis his worst enemy and end up tearing him apart all the way through.

Can't see dems winning with Biden. Maybe klobuchar would make a contest of it. Or some other senator. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Just now, Harry said:

I think De Santis will only have a chance if Trump is indicted tbh. If Trump contests the primary hell be hard to beat and if he loses he'll make De Santis his worst enemy and end up tearing him apart all the way through.

Can't see dems winning with Biden. Maybe klobuchar would make a contest of it. Or some other senator. 

I saw a poll recently where even many Trump supporters (not the diehard ones who are basically cultists at this point) think he shouldn't be the GOP nominee because he has too much baggage. And DeSantis also polls well among the many US "moderates."

I realistically can't see any high profile dems winning it. Klobuchar's very much a status quo moderate democrat, which isn't really the kind of candidate that inspires voters to think positive change is coming with their election... a lot like Biden, tbh. And just in terms of the stupid things voters consider instead of... actual policies... she has a pretty nervous sounding wobbly voice that I think made her come off as a bit shit in the DNC debates. You pair her up against Trump or DeSantis and I think she'll probably come off looking really bad in the presidential debates even if she's just arguing against people spewing bullshit.

I also think it's maybe a bit tough for sitting democrat senators right now - as a lot of them are taking heat from their base for failing to codify Roe v. Wade while they had the chance. Will voters remember that by the next election? I'm not so sure.

I don't have much faith in most democrat politicians, too successfully battle this far-right movement in the US that's taken control of their conservative party. They've got the most watched media network on their side and they're comfortable making bad faith arguments in order to get votes and support. I'd like someone like Katie Porter to run, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Porter 

She won her seat in a district that once claimed it was "the most republican district in the United States" (although I'm not sure how that's true considering it's in California and not Alabama) - that has a long history of electing shitty people. She's popular in her district - and popular with a lot of left wing and liberal people in the US.

[Spike]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I saw a poll recently where even many Trump supporters (not the diehard ones who are basically cultists at this point) think he shouldn't be the GOP nominee because he has too much baggage. And DeSantis also polls well among the many US "moderates."

I realistically can't see any high profile dems winning it. Klobuchar's very much a status quo moderate democrat, which isn't really the kind of candidate that inspires voters to think positive change is coming with their election... a lot like Biden, tbh. And just in terms of the stupid things voters consider instead of... actual policies... she has a pretty nervous sounding wobbly voice that I think made her come off as a bit shit in the DNC debates. You pair her up against Trump or DeSantis and I think she'll probably come off looking really bad in the presidential debates even if she's just arguing against people spewing bullshit.

I also think it's maybe a bit tough for sitting democrat senators right now - as a lot of them are taking heat from their base for failing to codify Roe v. Wade while they had the chance. Will voters remember that by the next election? I'm not so sure.

I don't have much faith in most democrat politicians, too successfully battle this far-right movement in the US that's taken control of their conservative party. They've got the most watched media network on their side and they're comfortable making bad faith arguments in order to get votes and support. I'd like someone like Katie Porter to run, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Porter 

She won her seat in a district that once claimed it was "the most republican district in the United States" (although I'm not sure how that's true considering it's in California and not Alabama) - that has a long history of electing shitty people. She's popular in her district - and popular with a lot of left wing and liberal people in the US.

There is no such thing as a US moderate, the realignment has happened as it happened in the past. The Democrats are no 80s era Reagan Republicans and the Republicans are Ben Shapiro on crack.

[Dr. Gonzo]

5 minutes ago, Spike said:

There is no such thing as a US moderate, the realignment has happened as it happened in the past. The Democrats are no 80s era Reagan Republicans and the Republicans are Ben Shapiro on crack.

I agree, that's why I put it in quotes.

These "moderates" are tbh quite happy for the republicans to pull the country further and further to the right, then they come in and make those policies the status quo (like Biden has done with many Trump-era policies: from immigration, the losing battle on trade with China, Middle East policy, etc...)

There's about 2-4 people in US politics you can probably actually call left-wing and then the rest are either fairly right wing... or full on extremists.

[Spike]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

I agree, that's why I put it in quotes.

These "moderates" are tbh quite happy for the republicans to pull the country further and further to the right, then they come in and make those policies the status quo (like Biden has done with many Trump-era policies: from immigration, the losing battle on trade with China, Middle East policy, etc...)

There's about 2-4 people in US politics you can probably actually call left-wing and then the rest are either fairly right wing... or full on extremists.

I think under the broader definition I would be I would be arrested during McCarthyism politics.

[Dr. Gonzo]

26 minutes ago, Spike said:

I think under the broader definition I would be I would be arrested during McCarthyism politics.

In this era, if Jesus came back I'm pretty sure the US bible loving fanatics would crucify him for being an unwashed socialist

[Spike]

12 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

In this era, if Jesus came back I'm pretty sure the US bible loving fanatics would crucify him for being an unwashed socialist

They'd also be upset that he would try to convert Israel.

[nudge]

Just wanted to say that sex is really nice... Totally not directed to anyone on here. No morals or anything. Just pure, wild sex. Without consequences. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

18 minutes ago, nudge said:

Just wanted to say that sex is really nice... Totally not directed to anyone on here. No morals or anything. Just pure, wild sex. Without consequences. 

I agree with that 100%

but also... what?

[Spike]

26 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I agree with that 100%

but also... what?

She is saying you are a virgin nerd loser. 

[Cicero]

Sex is cool and all, but did you ever fart that fixed an itch in your arse?

[Devil-Dick Willie]

1 hour ago, nudge said:

Just wanted to say that sex is really nice... Totally not directed to anyone on here. No morals or anything. Just pure, wild sex. Without consequences. 

This is why I always have sex with housemates. 

It's so much fun for like 30 minutes, that you forget the consequences