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Frank de Boer In Line to Succeed Allardyce at Palace

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more upheaval for the Eagles. Surprised at this!

 

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Might want to merge this with my thread!

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Probably wants the Barcelona or Real Madrid job. Hell, he could probably do both at the same time, he's that good.

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6 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said:

Great news for Palace. He did the job to keep them up and now they can get a progressive coach to utilise their talent.

That's how I'm looking at it. He was the right appointment given the situation we were in but it wasn't progressive long term thinking.

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16 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said:

Just seen he took palace from 17th to one point above 17th having spent £34m

 

I feel like we can make fun of that but at the same time how much money do they get for staying in the premiership compared to how much they'd lose if they went down to the EFL.

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13 minutes ago, Dickie said:

I feel like we can make fun of that but at the same time how much money do they get for staying in the premiership compared to how much they'd lose if they went down to the EFL.

All depends on whether or not he expanded the wage bill and if he did so by adding good players. Once you expand it you eat into any future revenues from being in the Premier League and if they are crap players then you hamper any progress the next manager can make. There's no point just staying in the Premier League because of the money, you need to make the money work.

It took us a while to recover from what he did to our wage bill in one transfer window (e.g. Alan smith and Geremi on £70k a week) and you could argue that was what made Mike Ashley a penny pinching owner. 

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Interesting this, it's all well and good saying you want a progressive manager but Palace aren't a team that can afford to play that sort of game. It's been relegation fight after relegation fight for them, the next manager needs to be a gooden.

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3 minutes ago, Danny said:

Interesting this, it's all well and good saying you want a progressive manager but Palace aren't a team that can afford to play that sort of game. It's been relegation fight after relegation fight for them, the next manager needs to be a gooden.

not sure finishing 10th a couple of seasons ago counts as being in a relegation fight xD 

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13 minutes ago, Stan said:

not sure finishing 10th a couple of seasons ago counts as being in a relegation fight xD 

If you aren't first you're last I guess?

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3 minutes ago, Stan said:

not sure finishing 10th a couple of seasons ago counts as being in a relegation fight xD 

The first season they came up they were in one but got out thanks to Tony Pulis, in one this season, finished 15th last season and clear of relegation by 5 points with a horrific run of form from January onwards. Think it's fair to say they're constantly in them.

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They are a club that need a progressive manager.

Not a Pardew, not an Allardyce, someone with a real tactical grasp and knows how to take them to the next level. They've got the players and the funding so it'll be interesting to see who they appoint.

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21 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said:

All depends on whether or not he expanded the wage bill and if he did so by adding good players. Once you expand it you eat into any future revenues from being in the Premier League and if they are crap players then you hamper any progress the next manager can make. There's no point just staying in the Premier League because of the money, you need to make the money work.

It took us a while to recover from what he did to our wage bill in one transfer window (e.g. Alan smith and Geremi on £70k a week) and you could argue that was what made Mike Ashley a penny pinching owner. 

My worry is we allowed him to spend big in January to a point where it's taken a chunk out of our summer budget and now he's got his bonus he cannot be bothered. But still there's a lot of progressive managers out there who have worked on a much smaller budget so I remain optimistic.

8 minutes ago, Stan said:

not sure finishing 10th a couple of seasons ago counts as being in a relegation fight xD 

Last week he said we were boring. I blame Leicester for this. Created expectations that cannot be matched.

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4 minutes ago, Aaroncpfc said:

My worry is we allowed him to spend big in January to a point where it's taken a chunk out of our summer budget and now he's got his bonus he cannot be bothered. But still there's a lot of progressive managers out there who have worked on a much smaller budget so I remain optimistic.

Last week he said we were boring. I blame Leicester for this. Created expectations that cannot be matched.

that's the last time I stick up for you or Palace ¬¬

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I thought he'd fancy giving it another crack for next season, he's kept them up and was probably going to be given a decent wedge of money to spend.

Does this mean that he'll retire now?

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Bad for Palace, this. Despite it being fairly dull and mundane for a couple of years, Palace, IMO, needed Allardyce to provide a bit of stability and small shoots of growth before maybe then looking at a more progressive manager. 

 

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Deserves its own thread.

Just released a statement saying he has no ambitions to take another job. A shame really - a good character and I think he'll be a bit of a miss to the PL.

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He's just announced he's retired and has no intention of managing again.

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wonder if the impending retirement now is to do with the investigation that's still going on in to what happened with his England reign.

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Unfortunately for us it makes sense. He will never get another chance for England or ever get a chance at a top six club and I imagine he will make plenty of money with other football and business related projects. Beating Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal with the last eight fixtures we had to help us survive when we also had Spurs, United and City is a pretty special way to go out.

Hopefully if this is the reason he has left we may keep most of his coaching staff.

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1 minute ago, Stan said:

wonder if the impending retirement now is to do with the investigation that's still going on in to what happened with his England reign.

I hope not. Given his dinosaur hoofball reputation ive been really impressed with his knowledge around sports science and developing technological benefits. I don't want to think he's a terrible character.

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Hope the fat prick doesn't think this spell at Palace has somehow vindicated him after what happened with England. Never liked him, never will. Not denying he's got some good achievements in the game but it won't miss him.

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7 minutes ago, Aaroncpfc said:

I hope not. Given his dinosaur hoofball reputation ive been really impressed with his knowledge around sports science and developing technological benefits. I don't want to think he's a terrible character.

You ever read his book? I warmed to him after reading that.

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I've never disliked the man, I've disliked his football for the most part but he always came across as a decent person. The England fiasco was a massive error of judgement and we are all prone to doing silly things throughout our lives, no matter who we are.

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I suspect this was the agreement from the start. Good for them to let it be done on his terms. 

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Have no real opinion of him nowadays. He used to irritate me years ago when he was at Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn but he's been around long enough for me to not care about any more. 

His Bolton side was good, though. Davies used to dominate us in the air. 

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Just now, Cannabis said:

Same to be honest, he's a tool but I'd take him all day over the other drongos like Pulis or Pardew.

That's not saying much though is it. It's like saying you'd much rather have chlamydia over genital warts or syphilis.

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Firstly, not that I think they will, but I hope they don't go for Gary Monk whilst his future is still cloudy with us. I could see something like that happening to us the one time we find someone excelling in the role at Leeds.

Secondly, as for who takes over, Chris Coleman will obviously be a favourite because of his playing connections but I wouldn't go there if I was Palace. Sentiment isn't always the right option. Been reading that David Wagner could be a dark horse, particularly if Huddersfield don't get promoted on Monday. Would be an interesting shout. Really think they should steer clear of Ranieri, Pearson etc. Shame Gary Rowett was snapped up by Derby, I think he'd have been a good fit for Palace.

Thirdly on to Big Sam. If he's calling it a day then fair play to him. Not my cup of tea, think he's got an overinflated ego of himself, plays a horrible brand of Football and is a sly bastard. I've been critical of him and I'm not going to start arse licking him now. But ultimately he gains my respect.

Suffice to say I respect his track record in managing unfashionable clubs to respectable positions and getting as much out of them as he could. Bolton enjoyed great times under him, especially reaching Europe and having some reknown stars in their team. He managed to attract the calibre of Youri Djorkaeff, Jay Jay Okocha and Nicholas Anelka to Bolton. Bloody Bolton...of all clubs.

Newcastle was a flop. Blackburn will probably forever regret shooting themselves in the foot and sacking him because Steve Kean took them down at a rate of knots when consolidation kept them above water. West Ham he did well results wise, especially when you consider the pressure he constantly received to play better football whilst Sunderland and Palace he can all come out with his head held high in achieving the short term objectives he was set. 

England was a complete fiasco which arguably took him down a peg for his own good but all things considered, he can be reasonably proud of his career looking back. Definitely the closest thing I've seen to a real life Mike Bassett.

All the best in his retirement (Still feel he'dl come back again 'when the right opportunity' presents itself)

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