Jack Grealish - Winger Completes Move to Man City

[Cicero]

53 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

If Financial "Fair Play" actually applies to these clubs then why can they just go and spend another 100 million this summer on Lukaku?

Simple. 
 

We raised 60 million in player sales this summer already and Atalanta are rumored to buy Tammy for 40 million, which will then begin the domino effect that will have Inter buy Zapata and us Lukaku, leaving our summer transfer expenditure at -25 million. 

[LFCMadLad]

1 hour ago, Cicero said:

Simple. 
 

We raised 60 million in player sales this summer already and Atalanta are rumored to buy Tammy for 40 million, which will then begin the domino effect that will have Inter buy Zapata and us Lukaku, leaving our summer transfer expenditure at -25 million. 

Lots of rumours and ifs and buts in there.

It's bollocks.. Chelsea along with City spend what they want without care. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. 

[Spike]

Most of these clubs spend without much care. Aston Villa just spent 30mil on old man no knees Danny Ings,oh but this the premier league and 30mil isn't 30mil when you sold a player for 100mil. Liverpool spends 90mil on a defender 'It's okay thOugH cuZ wE soLD CouTinHO'

[RandoEFC+]

4 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said:

It's always funny to see this stuff from Premier league fans 

"My peasant clubs record transfer is $40 000 000."

Woe is you, mines $15 000 000 on a player you guys didn't want anymore. 

I don't really know how to respond to this. It's pretty clear I wasn't moaning on Everton's behalf alone, simply using them as an example because, shock horror, as an Everton fan, I have a greater awareness of their dealings than other teams.

My gripe is more with how excited everyone in the football community gets about transfers like this. Ooh Grealish gets to move to Man City and look at all those zeroes. Why as neutrals and lovers of the sport should we find it exciting to see the same few clubs spend whatever the fuck they feel like hoovering up the best players in the league all of the time? Why as neutrals should we be happy that we'll see half as much of a player like Grealish next season because Pep will sit him on the bench all the time? If you want to deliberately miss the point and get into a pissing contest about who's got it worse I'm sure I can find some fans of Chelmsford and Bamber Bridge to come and play.

It's not the point is it? I'm just fed up of us pretending it's exciting. Aston Villa finished in the top half last season and are a genuinely big club. Yet what Man City can afford to lose down the back of the sofa, we perceive as being an irresistible amount of money for them to give away the best player they've had in a generation. And yes, I'm sure Werder Bremen have no sympathy for Aston Villa because you'd love to have £100m to spend but that's my exact fucking point. Money matters to most teams. It doesn't matter to Man City.

4 hours ago, Cicero said:

Simple. 
 

We raised 60 million in player sales this summer already and Atalanta are rumored to buy Tammy for 40 million, which will then begin the domino effect that will have Inter buy Zapata and us Lukaku, leaving our summer transfer expenditure at -25 million. 

So what you're saying is, Leicester or West Ham could spend £100m+ on Lukaku this summer too and afford his wages, all they have to do is look harder on their bench and in their youth team to find £100m worth of spare players to fund it. What? Leicester don't have £100m worth of spare players lying around? But Chelsea do? Sheesh, sounds like I'll have to do some serious research here to work out why that is.

Like I said, this is Harlem Globetrotter football now. The teams in 3rd and 4th can afford full teams of players that would be transfer records for the teams in 6th and 7th. That's where we're at in the Premier League and in pockets of the other elite leagues. We missed a trick by not letting the Super League go ahead.

To clarify, I'm not actually here to have digs at other clubs. It's not Chelsea and Man City's fault that they were the last ones to financially dope their way into the VIP lounge before they bolted the doors shut. I just don't see how anyone finds football exciting outside of their own club anymore. I've never paid less attention to the transfer window than I have this year but seeing talk of £100m players flying around again left right and centre just puts back into context how the rich clubs keep getting further and further away and everyone else can't do anything about it, and it only gets worse every year.

[Happy Blue]

7 hours ago, Stan said:

Sickening 

 

 

You really believe him?   ..NO player at City has ever signed for anything even close to them wages  ..these are our top earners in order, can you imagine the shit storm if he came in on them wages when he's not even going to be playing every week too  Mahrez etc will be banging Peps door down lol

ANNUAL SALARY

WEEKLY SALARY

Kevin De Bruyne  £20,020,000 £385,000

Raheem Sterling  £15,600,000 £300,000

Bernardo Silva  £7,800,000 £150,000

Ilkay Gundogan £7,280,000£140,000

Rodrigo Hernández Cascante £6,300,000£121,154

Aymeric Laporte £6,240,000£120,000

Riyad Mahrez £6,240,000£120,000

Ruben Dias £6,000,000£115,385

Kyle Walker £5,720,000£110,000

7 hours ago, Stan said:

 

 

[Smiley Culture]

Any point in the “title race” now?

[Devil]

8 hours ago, Stan said:

Sickening 

 

 

 

What about Alexis Sanchez?

They totally forgetting his alleged 500k a week deal. I like the bit in brackets as well, unconfirmed salary, I bet there is a fair few unconfirmed salaries at City. 

 

[Devil]

48 minutes ago, Happy Blue said:

You really believe him?   ..NO player at City has ever signed for anything even close to them wages  ..these are our top earners in order, can you imagine the shit storm if he came in on them wages when he's not even going to be playing every week too  Mahrez etc will be banging Peps door down lol

ANNUAL SALARY

WEEKLY SALARY

Kevin De Bruyne  £20,020,000 £385,000

Raheem Sterling  £15,600,000 £300,000

Bernardo Silva  £7,800,000 £150,000

Ilkay Gundogan £7,280,000£140,000

Rodrigo Hernández Cascante £6,300,000£121,154

Aymeric Laporte £6,240,000£120,000

Riyad Mahrez £6,240,000£120,000

Ruben Dias £6,000,000£115,385

Kyle Walker £5,720,000£110,000

 

 

If we aren't to believe him then how are we to believe a guy on an internet forum with less access to information as the man he just discredited. 

Honestly if you believe some of those salaries then you are insane. No way on this earth Mahrez is on 120k a week for one, didn't he sign a new deal with Leicester on around that figure already, he will have had a huge wage rise. 

[Happy Blue]

5 minutes ago, Devil said:

What about Alexis Sanchez?

They totally forgetting his alleged 500k a week deal. I like the bit in brackets as well, unconfirmed salary, I bet there is a fair few unconfirmed salaries at City. 

 

All City's top earners are listed in my last post, no salaries are unconfirmed   ...Grealish was on £120k a week at Villa too so he wont be getting half of what that muppets saying 

[Devil]

1 minute ago, Happy Blue said:

All City's top earners are listed in my last post, no salaries are unconfirmed   ...Grealish was on £120k a week at Villa too so he wont be getting half of what that muppets saying 

How do you know the City salaries?

Do you supply the wage slips?

No I don't think you do so whatever info you have is as vague as the information that alleged "muppet" has given us. 

[Happy Blue]

Just now, Devil said:

 

If we aren't to believe him then how are we to believe a guy on an internet forum with less access to information as the man he just discredited. 

Honestly if you believe some of those salaries then you are insane. No way on this earth Mahrez is on 120k a week for one, didn't he sign a new deal with Leicester on around that figure already, he will have had a huge wage rise. 

Hmm less access? look who told you we was buying Grealish  all these figures are correct, i have friends that work at City

[Happy Blue]

22 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

Any point in the “title race” now?

?? Grealish wont make much difference, we already have better players just gives us more depth. i think Liverpool will come back strong this season

[Devil]

3 minutes ago, Happy Blue said:

Hmm less access? look who told you we was buying Grealish  all these figures are correct, i have friends that work at City

So these friends have access to the players finances?

Or do the players themselves walk around the training ground or the stadium showing everyone their weekly wage slip. Come on mate I could know someone who works for United but that doesn't mean I'd know exactly what the players earn. 

Your mates may have had the inside line on the Grealish transfer but nobody other than the top brass that broker the deal, his agent and Grealish will know that salary or his extra's. 

[Happy Blue]

3 minutes ago, Devil said:

So these friends have access to the players finances?

Or do the players themselves walk around the training ground or the stadium showing everyone their weekly wage slip. Come on mate I could know someone who works for United but that doesn't mean I'd know exactly what the players earn. 

Your mates may have had the inside line on the Grealish transfer but nobody other than the top brass that broker the deal, his agent and Grealish will know that salary or his extra's. 

You know what office staff do right? 

[Happy Blue]

2 minutes ago, Happy Blue said:

You know what office staff do right? 

Edit* give me 30mins, i will get you a screen shot from the office computer 

[Devil]

Just now, Happy Blue said:

You know what office staff do right? 

Mate I'm an operations manager for a busy construction firm, don't insult me. 

I work in an office daily and even I don't have access to what the lads on site earn, a different department deals with my wages and their wages. 

[Happy Blue]

1 minute ago, Devil said:

Mate I'm an operations manager for a busy construction firm, don't insult me. 

I work in an office daily and even I don't have access to what the lads on site earn, a different department deals with my wages and their wages. 

wait for the screenshot 

[Devil]

2 minutes ago, Happy Blue said:

Edit* give me 30mins, i will get you a screen shot from the office computer 

I can do that in less than one minute if you really wanted. 

Can you prove to me you know someone who works in the wages department at Manchester City.

No I doubt you can pal. 

Conversation over. 

[Happy Blue]

5 minutes ago, Devil said:

I can do that in less than one minute if you really wanted. 

Can you prove to me you know someone who works in the wages department at Manchester City.

No I doubt you can pal. 

Conversation over. 

Don't want to be proven wrong, no worry's 

[Fairy In Boots]

1 hour ago, Happy Blue said:

You really believe him?   ..NO player at City has ever signed for anything even close to them wages  ..these are our top earners in order, can you imagine the shit storm if he came in on them wages when he's not even going to be playing every week too  Mahrez etc will be banging Peps door down lol

ANNUAL SALARY

WEEKLY SALARY

Kevin De Bruyne  £20,020,000 £385,000

Raheem Sterling  £15,600,000 £300,000

Bernardo Silva  £7,800,000 £150,000

Ilkay Gundogan £7,280,000£140,000

Rodrigo Hernández Cascante £6,300,000£121,154

Aymeric Laporte £6,240,000£120,000

Riyad Mahrez £6,240,000£120,000

Ruben Dias £6,000,000£115,385

Kyle Walker £5,720,000£110,000

 

It’s correct when I say I know about the deal I really do, you also pay north of £10m to his agents of which some will find it’s way to his folks via shell companies. Villa offered £225k p/w. You’re a very dirty club

[Devil]

9 minutes ago, Happy Blue said:

Don't want to be proven wrong, no worry's 

I actually don't know where you've gone with this now 

For a second I was actually going to post a picture of my desk and a pad with Happy Blue sucks dick on it but then I came to my senses. 

I don't care to be honest, you know as much as the next man. I've heard the old I know someone in the offices story a million times. 

[LFCMike]

@Devil you will soon learn Happy Blue is a WUM, if you haven't already.  He's not a nobhead WUM like we've had on here in the past, normally quite funny, but a WUM all the same.

[Happy Blue]

9 minutes ago, Devil said:

For a second I was actually going to post a picture of my desk and a pad with Happy Blue sucks dick on it but then I came to my senses. 

Muppet 

[Danny]

2 hours ago, RandoEFC said:

I don't really know how to respond to this. It's pretty clear I wasn't moaning on Everton's behalf alone, simply using them as an example because, shock horror, as an Everton fan, I have a greater awareness of their dealings than other teams.

My gripe is more with how excited everyone in the football community gets about transfers like this. Ooh Grealish gets to move to Man City and look at all those zeroes. Why as neutrals and lovers of the sport should we find it exciting to see the same few clubs spend whatever the fuck they feel like hoovering up the best players in the league all of the time? Why as neutrals should we be happy that we'll see half as much of a player like Grealish next season because Pep will sit him on the bench all the time? If you want to deliberately miss the point and get into a pissing contest about who's got it worse I'm sure I can find some fans of Chelmsford and Bamber Bridge to come and play.

It's not the point is it? I'm just fed up of us pretending it's exciting. Aston Villa finished in the top half last season and are a genuinely big club. Yet what Man City can afford to lose down the back of the sofa, we perceive as being an irresistible amount of money for them to give away the best player they've had in a generation. And yes, I'm sure Werder Bremen have no sympathy for Aston Villa because you'd love to have £100m to spend but that's my exact fucking point. Money matters to most teams. It doesn't matter to Man City.

I do wonder if the future of finding some sort of fair play within football is the use of stats. I'll use Brentford as an example because of the success we've had in the Championship, but our model can be replicated by bigger clubs if you have the resources. In the Championship we were consistently a bottom 3 spender in both transfers and wages, even when we could afford to spend £30m in one window our wage bill was still very low. But years of us buying and selling, coming from a position of no real wealth, allowed us to compete at the top with Premier League parachute payment sides and we then finished 3rd twice in a row.

Of course Liverpool have spent big on Van Dijk and Allison specifically, and they've spent over half a billion to win the league, but they got to that point through selling and buy smart. Sadio Mane and Mo Salah were relatively small signings compared to what City make and they're both 2 of the best players in the league. Leicester have shown a good ability to sell players for big profit and bring in lower costing alternatives.

I think the main problem a lot of clubs have (other than the money City have to spend, which has existed in multiple clubs the past two decades) is they've not consistently had good assistance with statistical analysis in transfers, I think a revolution with analytics at bigger clubs would help counter what City spending £100m on Jack Grealish really means to the rest of the league.

[Happy Blue]

@Devil here you go fruit cake