MUFC Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, shut up said: The two other forums 18+ no doubt Not easy explaining to blondies with big tits and no brains lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted December 12, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, shut up said: Again, like Rando, another false equivalency. This wasn't luck like Bottas taking out Red Bulls. This was the FIA directly influencing the outcome of the race. You can agree with it, but people on here are getting themselves confused and comparing apples and oranges If he decided to end the race under the safety car that would have influenced the race as well though. He had to decide something and one of the teams wasn't going to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, RondónEFC said: Mercedes have lodged two complaints. Unless you're a fan of one or the other, nobody wants to see this decided in the stewards room or god forbid the courts. This is far from uncharted territory for F1. No less than four championships from 1988-1997 ended in controversy or deliberate crashes at the final race and some even went to the courts or the FIA headquarters. No bias from me, Red Bull would do the same, only faster . I hope this doesn't drag on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, RondónEFC said: If he decided to end the race under the safety car that would have influenced the race as well though. He had to decide something and one of the teams wasn't going to like it. 2 of my uncles hate Hamilton. When the race started I switched my phone off. I think I'll now leave it off for a few days, maybe weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted December 12, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, shut up said: If my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle. Again, another false equivalency from you and you're just not getting it. Lol okay. Good debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, nudge said: Looks like it is going to be a very anti-climactic race, after all... That didnt age well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, shut up said: If my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle. Again, another false equivalency from you and you're just not getting it. In this day and age LGBT are pushing for peoples aunties to have a pair of bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted December 12, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted December 12, 2021 One of the protests is about overtaking under the safety car. Presumably that was about Max going alongside before the restart. This happens all the time and won't come to anything. The other protest is a bit more complicated and I believe is about the lapped cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 I watched the final lap a few times. Is it me or on the very last turn. Did Max slightly lose control and nearly hit the side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ Posted December 12, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted December 12, 2021 I can’t be bothered with the protests - nothing will change. It’s done now. Masi needs to go, and the FIA must be more consistent next year but this all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Urgh, the vanilla F1 fans popping in after their one race of the season. Go back under your rocks please . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 Is tough to take. But at Mercedes we'll take some time off, gather our thoughts and regroup in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Well, that was definitely more exciting than Burnley v West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted December 12, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted December 12, 2021 This overtaking behind the safety car protest is pathetic. This happens all the time. If Max gets penalised for it Red Bull can quite rightly look back to last week when Bottas should have had a slam dunk penalty for driving too slowly behind the safety car to screw Max over and how Hamilton got away with dropping too far back on the formation lap on the technicality that it was a restart not a formation lap. Even in this race, Lewis drove alongside the safety car for a few seconds, shall we penalise him as well? This of course all stems from Masi's mismanagement of the previous few races and both teams feeling constantly aggrieved. There's a case to be made with the safety car protocol. The other protest, grow up, that's Red Bull behaviour. This is a very ugly look for the sport. I defended Masi after Saudi Arabia because it's like a football match which is near impossible to referee but he really has brought this all upon us. Too weak and no consistency. No doubt that the radio talk between him and the teams being broadcast this year for the first time gives off this impression but the lobbying of the race director by the teams appears to be out of control right now. It's like the managers running onto the pitch and arguing with the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted December 12, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted December 12, 2021 Regardless of what the outcome will be, Masi needs to go. Indecisive, inconsistent, and just seems generally unaware of well, anything. Race control and their decision making process has been a shit show throughout the whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted December 12, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2021 On a different note, I have to say Carlos Sainz was very impressive this season. Comes new into a complicated team like Ferrari, and finishes P5 in the Championship, two places ahead of their golden boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted December 12, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted December 12, 2021 Also, a shoutout to Tsunoda who finished P4, just half a second away from podium. Seems to have improved significantly in the last few races, hope to see more from him next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, RondónEFC said: Because that would take ages. As for the lapped cars. It is down to the race director's discretion. The idea behind letting the lapped cars unlap themselves is so you don't have cars on three different laps, for example, having to all let each other past in the same part of the track. The other factor is that a safety car is unfair if you're say 7th and you've just been lapped, and the guy in 6th is 4 seconds ahead of you and gets to drive off and end up a whole lap ahead of you. That's not fair on those guys either so it's another reason they let them unlap themselves. But because it's down to the race director's discretion I suppose it's why he was able to do that today. I do think it's unprecedented though. From what I have seen today there was two times the safety car was on the track. If they had slowed down to a low speed there may ban an extra 5 to 10 minutes of the race. Didnt seem like a lot to me but maybe I'm not understanding the f1 culture. Is it just something fans wouldn't want in a similar way fans dont like to many stockages in football or is there a bit more to it than that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: From what I have seen today there was two times the safety car was on the track. If they had slowed down to a low speed there may ban an extra 5 to 10 minutes of the race. Didnt seem like a lot to me but maybe I'm not understanding the f1 culture. Is it just something fans wouldn't want in a similar way fans dont like to many stockages in football or is there a bit more to it than that ? The drivers want the SC to go quicker so they can maintain heat in their tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted December 12, 2021 Administrator Share Posted December 12, 2021 RB and Merc (with their barrister) going back in to the meeting with the stewards. The world awaits with baited breath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Stan said: RB and Merc (with their barrister) going back in to the meeting with the stewards. The world awaits with baited breath... I dont think it would be good to win that way do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted December 12, 2021 Administrator Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: I dont think it would be good to win that way do you? Nope and I don't think Lewis would want to, either. Would feel hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted December 12, 2021 Administrator Share Posted December 12, 2021 No decision made as yet. Horner walking out of the meetings very happy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Stan said: No decision made as yet. Horner walking out of the meetings very happy... I can understand them changing the result if it was something that never happens and shouldn't have happened but if these kind if things do happen it seems unfair as hamilton would of benefited from some decisions throughout the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted December 12, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2021 DHL taking the piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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