Administrator Stan Posted December 9, 2021 Administrator Posted December 9, 2021 Monday 13th December. from 11am (GMT) Seeded Bayern Munich Liverpool Juventus Man Utd Man City Real Madrid Lille Ajax Unseeded Sporting Lisbon Benfica Atletico Madrid PSG Chelsea Atalanta/Villarreal Inter Milan RB Salzburg First leg matches on 15/16th and 22nd/23rd Feb Second leg matches on 8/9th and 15/16th March
Administrator Stan Posted December 13, 2021 Author Administrator Posted December 13, 2021 Benfica vs Real Madrid Villarreal vs Man City Atletico Madrid vs Bayern Munich Salzburg vs Liverpool Inter Milan vs Ajax Sporting Lisbon vs Juventus Chelsea vs Lille PSG vs Man Utd
Administrator Stan Posted December 13, 2021 Author Administrator Posted December 13, 2021 Awkward. Villarreal got drawn with Man Utd . They had to pick again.
Administrator Stan Posted December 13, 2021 Author Administrator Posted December 13, 2021 Obviously Messi vs Ronaldo...
LFCMike Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Stan said: Awkward. Villarreal got drawn with Man Utd . They had to pick again. I was watching with no sound and thought that was the case Anyway, decent draw for us. Can't complain.
Lucas Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Uninspiring for the neutral. Another 'meh' stage of games and then the competitionn starts properly in the Quarters.
LFCMike Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Apparently they omitted Man United when Atletico got pulled out as well?
Administrator Stan Posted December 13, 2021 Author Administrator Posted December 13, 2021 I actually think Inter vs Ajax is the tie of the round. Not buying in to the PSG vs Man Utd hype. Two poor teams considering their stature - the only pull is Messi & Ronaldo. 1 minute ago, LFCMike said: Apparently they omitted Man United when Atletico got pulled out as well? I think that was a knock-on effects of the Villarreal/Man Utd thing.
LFCMike Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Stan said: I actually think Inter vs Ajax is the tie of the round. Not buying in to the PSG vs Man Utd hype. Two poor teams considering their stature - the only pull is Messi & Ronaldo. I think that was a knock-on effects of the Villarreal/Man Utd thing. So the draw has been done completely wrong then hasn't it? I don't want a redraw because I'm happy with that, but that's what should happen really isn't it?
Administrator Stan Posted December 13, 2021 Author Administrator Posted December 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, LFCMike said: So the draw has been done completely wrong then hasn't it? I don't want a redraw because I'm happy with that, but that's what should happen really isn't it? I'd have thought so. Don't know for sure but wonder if it was just the visuals where Man Utd were omitted on that, but not actually by the ball put in the pot.
Administrator Stan Posted December 13, 2021 Author Administrator Posted December 13, 2021 One wonders what they would have said if they hadn't drawn Bayern
The Artful Dodger Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 What an absolute disgrace. How much Manchester United now get an easy draw.
Moderator Tommy Posted December 13, 2021 Moderator Posted December 13, 2021 Is everything fucked these days?
Administrator Stan Posted December 13, 2021 Author Administrator Posted December 13, 2021 Ha, what a mess.
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted December 13, 2021 Subscriber Posted December 13, 2021 Every time I see something like this happen it always makes me wonder how hard it is to use a Random Number Generator with two lists. I suppose I should expect less from clubs/federations who can't protect their emails.
Rucksackfranzose Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, Mel81x said: Every time I see something like this happen it always makes me wonder how hard it is to use a Random Number Generator with two lists. I suppose I should expect less from clubs/federations who can't protect their emails. There's an issue with such a procedure, though. Teams from the same group or country can't meet in the round of 16. Therefore a draw with numbers would be not practicable.
Administrator Stan Posted December 13, 2021 Author Administrator Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mel81x said: Every time I see something like this happen it always makes me wonder how hard it is to use a Random Number Generator with two lists. I suppose I should expect less from clubs/federations who can't protect their emails. Probably more susceptible to it being fixed, no?
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted December 13, 2021 Subscriber Posted December 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: There's an issue with such a procedure, though. Teams from the same group or country can't meet in the round of 16. Therefore a draw with numbers would be not practicable. Well if you have two lists its easy to fix the issue with regards to the other two groups. I over simplified the issue because they technically wouldnt be lists they would be a bit more complex, however the RNG would still not be as complex as UEFA is making it out to be. We've had this technology for over a decade in match-making for online gaming and that deals with thousands if not hundreds of thousands of choices. Why its failing here is a total mystery other than the fact that UEFA wants it to be "broken".
6666 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 So the random draw was even more random than expected. I don't think this has ever happened before. Are they using a whole new system or something?
Administrator Stan Posted December 13, 2021 Author Administrator Posted December 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, 6666 said: So the random draw was even more random then expected. I don't think this has ever happened before. Are they using a whole new system or something? Not by the looks of it. Unless there's a new external software provider they're using behind the scenes.
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