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9 hours ago, Stan said:

apparently if you get booked in 3 out of 10 matches in Ligue 1, you get banned for a match. 

I can vouch for this. Hard to keep track of but it's actually not a bad system if you ask me.

 

9 hours ago, Blue said:

I hate to admit it, but FM 18 is the first game in the series I dislike. It's downright unplayable this year.

Yep. I'm genuinely not going to bother with it. 17 squad update until 19 for me.

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6 hours ago, Stan said:

it certainly is!

xD I can tell based on your reactions. Joker window is quite handy. I actually quite like managing in France on the game. If it wasn't for PSG it'd be probably my favourite.

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15 minutes ago, Storts said:

Still haven't got 18... ridiculous I know. Is it worth it?

 

10 minutes ago, Cannabis said:

A few tweaks here and there, nothing out of this world but worth it if you want the updates. 

18 is great once you get the hang of it. It splits the men from the boys.

this.

no surprise @Dan and @Blue haven't stuck with it.

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In the team-talks, first time I've seen this regarding the players:

'The players look ready to walk through walls such is the atmosphere in the team'

I hope that means that they're 'die for each other' as opposed to just being blind and stupid xD 

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I don’t get the time to play Football Manager as much as I’d like to anymore but when I do get to play these days, I’ve sort of given up with the whole idea of winning trophies and producing wonderkids that go on to win Ballon D’Or’s and go on to become the best players on the game. Yes, they’re both nice things to achieve but lately I’ve tried to look at Football Manager more tactically and I’ve started trying to experiment with tactics and formations and so, this thread was born. 

Do people have a go-to formation? Or do people go on a case-by-case basis?

I’ve started using a 4-2-3-1 formation. It’s in its infancy and I see it, hopefully, as a side that has six defensive minded players when off the ball to ensure our defensive responsibilities are upheld but also, it allows me to have four attackers, who will, hopefully, produce the goods at the top end of the pitch. 

My major worry is my attacking midfielder. Granted, I’ve only played one game with an attacking midfielder but he averaged a 6.3 in a friendly and whenever I’ve used an attacking midfielder in the past, I’ve never been able to get the most out of them and they don’t seem to work for me, I moved him from ‘support’ to ‘attack’ to try and bring him more into the game but it seemed to matter little. 

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My tried and trusted on FM18 us what I've used at all my clubs in my current save. Very attacking mindset and can produce leaky defences on the odd occasion but always create chances. Guaranteed. 

GK is standard automatic whatever. 

4-man defence. Two normal centre backs set to Defend. One can be Cover if that's his 'perfect' position. Two full backs that are set to Automatic. Again, can be changed to Defensive full back or Defend if perfect for that player. 

A defensive midfielder set to the left a little (so they're directly ahead of the left centre back. This role can be anchor man, ball-winning midfielder or defensive midfielder. I've found these work to the best effect as opposed to a Regista or DLP.

A central midfield (set to the right a little) who is a deep-lying playmaker or advanced playmaker. The advantage of the latter is that they'll join in attacks or make runs in to the box on occasion. Good for when countering or piling on the pressure. 

Two attacking midfielders - 1 on the right and 1 on the left. Both set to Wingers and both given the instruction or trait to hug the line. (this helps if you set the team instruction to clear the ball to the flanks). They're always there and if the ball is right they'll run on to it or run with the ball against their full back. 

2 strikers and both as advanced forwards. This means you'll almost always have at least 1 player who is keeping the defenders occupied. Countless times the ball is lofted up and the strikers would run the channels, defenders don't know which to follow and one is left unmarked in the box. If the other striker has their wits about them they'll cross it in and its a simple goal. 

The mentality is set to Control for most games. If I go a goal down it goes to Attacking. The shape is Fluid or Structured 

Seems to work a treat for me considering my mentality is score one more than the other. 

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I have about four different ones but I generally try and tailor it to my team. I probably ought to stop doing this but I end up building on what I've tailored my team to rather than signing players to fit a new plan which is potentially better.

Mine are usually 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, 3-1-4-2 and 3-4-1-2, although I think about it I don't really use the latter that much anymore.

 

I usually stick to a few principles:

- I need to have some defensive cover in midfield. I've seen people play with a ball-winning midfielder as their holding midfielder and it just looks like absolute madness to me. I need someone disciplined enough to not have our defence constantly under pressure.

- I want pace both out wide and up front, and with my striker, I'm not demanding a massive goalscorer, I'm demanding someone who helps the team function not just scores and does nothing for the rest of the game. I want that bit more.

- I have to have width. If I play an inside forward, then there has to be a full back who attacks providing the width.

- I absolutely under no circumstance will play a diamond - yet I seem to be hopeless up against it too.

- Left footed left centre half, right footed right centre half.

- I do want a side that will close down regularly, but will only do this when I feel I have the players.

- I do fluctuate between expressive and disciplined. I think I'm more likely to play disciplined with 3 at the back, and expressive with 4.

- I need midfielders with technical quality. While I do want my players to be capable of doing the running too, I'd rather have players who don't really need to do it as much because they're a step ahead.

 

I've gone a bit off on one here but they're some things I do that spring to mind. I felt like I achieved tactical perfection at Sparta Rotterdam as I had a side with a wage bill of about £15mil a year dominating Dutch football and doing well in the Champions League. I've never had a side that has clicked so perfectly. The entire thing fitted together superbly.

It was a 4-3-3 formation. My back four followed the above principles - both full backs (Petterson and Saka) were quite attacking but both knew how to defend too. I had Korsak and Szeszurak at centre half, both good all-round defenders with the latter in-particular being absolutely top class, and unsurprisingly was attracting interest from big clubs before I started my new save. They were shielded by Bielik of Arsenal, another good all-round player but well disciplined at the same time.

My midfield duo were Francesco Zucci and Colin van der Vlist. CVDV was a number ten converted into a CM, possessing the natural technical qualities expected and a really clever roaming playmaker. Zucci was like Lampard in the way he ghosted into the box untracked and scored 13/14 a season, simply as a CM with attacking duty.

My best player was my left winger, Acaymo Garcia. He was a phenomenal player, an inside forward primarily, but two footed, could score, create, shoot from distance, excellent work rate, he had everything you'd want. Right winger was Carlos Carbonero, quite old and not actually fitting my usual description of a pacey winger, but he was such a good goal threat. He was hitting similar numbers to Zucci and setting a lot up too.

In the middle I had Oscar Verbruggen, a Belgian striker / attacking midfielder, a false nine type of player but I played him as a complete forward. Set piece specialist, long shot specialist, quick, good finisher, creative. The perfect striker for my system.

It was a satisfyingly brilliant side. All had their flaws (except Verbruggen, Garcia and Szeszurak) but they played fluid, attacking, yet solid football. We'd regularly win 3/4-0. We used to batter Feyenoord on an annual basis. I'd love to use that side again. My favourite ever side.

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I just work with the squad I've got. We're tall, physically imposing, with quick wingers. So it's a 4-1-2-3 (or 4-2-3-1 if the opposition are a mess), get the ball out wide and float crosses to the target man.

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I thought you guys said this was difficult? xD

I caved in and bought it, first season obviously started with Spurs - Won the league, the league cup and the Europa. Got knocked out of the CL group with Real and Dortmund, but beat Arsenal in the final. Didn't score many but didn't concede either. Not sure where to go now - somehow stumbled upon a winning tactic instantly. Play 3CB, two wing back, two Centre mid (CAR and MEZ) then two Attacking Mids, AP and SS, and HK10 up front. Very narrow, fullbacks have to give width although the Mez drifts into wide positions too. 

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this game really knows how to fucking anger me sometimes.

Lost count of the amount of times I've had to make 3 subs due to shit performance of players/injuries/cards and then a player gets fucking injured so have to play with 10 for the rest of the game. Fucking joke.

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On 14/01/2018 at 23:14, Storts said:

I thought you guys said this was difficult? xD

I caved in and bought it, first season obviously started with Spurs - Won the league, the league cup and the Europa. Got knocked out of the CL group with Real and Dortmund, but beat Arsenal in the final. Didn't score many but didn't concede either. Not sure where to go now - somehow stumbled upon a winning tactic instantly. Play 3CB, two wing back, two Centre mid (CAR and MEZ) then two Attacking Mids, AP and SS, and HK10 up front. Very narrow, fullbacks have to give width although the Mez drifts into wide positions too. 

I went similar at Arsenal on FM17, had to sell Bellerin to Barce he was getting that many assist. Then brought in Martin Montoya for less and the same kept happening.

Sometimes I didn't need my midfielders as the wing backs were just putting it on a plate for my forwards (Bacca, Sanchez and Lacazette).

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Started as Barnet and I've played three friendlies so far, beating Hitchin Town 3-0, Peterborough United 4-2 and Bishop's Stortford 3-1.

I need a right-back and a left footed centre half in terms of new players, I've got a bid in for Josh Clackstone from Hull City on loan to fill the void at RB but finding an adequate left footed CB is proving difficult. 

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Does anyone else feel the boards on this game don't give enough time?

Playing as AIK at the moment (will update based on how my first season ends) and I'm not doing so well but I also feel like there isn't much I can do about it. My tactics are working for the most part. I've changed all my shooting training to have the best coaches available, yet every game we miss so many chances that we lose and I feel like its the games fault and not my own.

I'm almost considering cheating or buying the "no sack" addition just to play in peace as I'm fucking tired of getting sacked because my players don't want to finish a chance. I'll admit I'm no tactical mastermind, but I'm doing everything right in this instance and the game still fucks me over.

I've learned in previous games that the first few seasons are always the toughest and once you develop your own side, it becomes easy. Kind of like a domino effect. If I don't have time to do that, I can't get a save going.

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