Real Madrid CF Discussion

[SirBalon]

Real Madrid have produced many marvellous players over the decades but most of Real Madrid's greatest Spanish players have come from other Spanish clubs. Then there are those three contemporary Real Madrid Spanish legends people keep on bringing up in the shape of Raúl and Casillas... Both those players although brought up almost entirely at the club (I say almost because Raúl started at Atlético Madrid's academy) were made to leave out through back door without being offered the usual Spanish recognition given to club legends.

Out of the present squad and the one that was used last season, these are the Spanish players and from which clubs they originate from.

• Kiko Casilla (Gimnàstic de Tarragona)
• Dani Carvajal (Real Madrid)
• Jesús Vallejo ( Real Zaragoza)
• Sergio Ramos (Sevilla FC)
• Nacho (Real Madrid)
• Marcos Llorente (Real Madrid)
• Marco Asensio (Real Mallorca)
• Francisco Román Alarcón Suárez "Isco" (Valencia CF)
• Dani Ceballos (Sevilla FC)
• Lucas Vázquez (Real Madrid)
• Borja Mayoral (Real Madrid)

5 of the 11 Sspaniards in the Real Madrid squad originate from La Fábrica which is the nickname of the Real Madrid academy. This is apparently during the whole history of the club the the third largest contingent of Real Madrid nurtured players although in fairness not many are first team players with only Dani Carvajal being a proper first teamer and Lucas Vázquez having the second most minutes from the authentic Real players.

Real Madrid are way way down the pecking order of clubs that have a big history in bringing through their own players to become the protagonists,. But that also tells you the size of that club and the obligations they feel as an entity in terms of what they have to provide which is only success and victory.

In general throughout the history of the club they have produced some magnificent players but the grand majority have gone onto make their name at other clubs.

Florentino Pérez seemingly tired of the Galáctico tag has switched the way he signs players in recent times with the scouring of La Liga in the search of promising young Spanish footballers.  Add to that his appointment of the new coach in Julen Lopetegui who is renowned for being great with young talent and we seem to have a search for a new era and the way the club portrays itself in this respect.

[RandoEFC+]

9 hours ago, SirBalon said:

Real Madrid have produced many marvellous players over the decades but most of Real Madrid's greatest Spanish players have come from other Spanish clubs. Then there are those three contemporary Real Madrid Spanish legends people keep on bringing up in the shape of Raúl and Casillas... Both those players although brought up almost entirely at the club (I say almost because Raúl started at Atlético Madrid's academy) were made to leave out through back door without being offered the usual Spanish recognition given to club legends.

Out of the present squad and the one that was used last season, these are the Spanish players and from which clubs they originate from.

• Kiko Casilla (Gimnàstic de Tarragona)
• Dani Carvajal (Real Madrid)
• Jesús Vallejo ( Real Zaragoza)
• Sergio Ramos (Sevilla FC)
• Nacho (Real Madrid)
• Marcos Llorente (Real Madrid)
• Marco Asensio (Real Mallorca)
• Francisco Román Alarcón Suárez "Isco" (Valencia CF)
• Dani Ceballos (Sevilla FC)
• Lucas Vázquez (Real Madrid)
• Borja Mayoral (Real Madrid)

5 of the 11 Sspaniards in the Real Madrid squad originate from La Fábrica which is the nickname of the Real Madrid academy. This is apparently during the whole history of the club the the third largest contingent of Real Madrid nurtured players although in fairness not many are first team players with only Dani Carvajal being a proper first teamer and Lucas Vázquez having the second most minutes from the authentic Real players.

Real Madrid are way way down the pecking order of clubs that have a big history in bringing through their own players to become the protagonists,. But that also tells you the size of that club and the obligations they feel as an entity in terms of what they have to provide which is only success and victory.

In general throughout the history of the club they have produced some magnificent players but the grand majority have gone onto make their name at other clubs.

Florentino Pérez seemingly tired of the Galáctico tag has switched the way he signs players in recent times with the scouring of La Liga in the search of promising young Spanish footballers.  Add to that his appointment of the new coach in Julen Lopetegui who is renowned for being great with young talent and we seem to have a search for a new era and the way the club portrays itself in this respect.

If this is true it should make for more interesting viewing for the neutrals over the next few years. 

[bozziovai]

14 hours ago, SirBalon said:

Real Madrid have produced many marvellous players over the decades but most of Real Madrid's greatest Spanish players have come from other Spanish clubs. Then there are those three contemporary Real Madrid Spanish legends people keep on bringing up in the shape of Raúl and Casillas... Both those players although brought up almost entirely at the club (I say almost because Raúl started at Atlético Madrid's academy) were made to leave out through back door without being offered the usual Spanish recognition given to club legends.

Out of the present squad and the one that was used last season, these are the Spanish players and from which clubs they originate from.

• Kiko Casilla (Gimnàstic de Tarragona)
• Dani Carvajal (Real Madrid)
• Jesús Vallejo ( Real Zaragoza)
• Sergio Ramos (Sevilla FC)
• Nacho (Real Madrid)
• Marcos Llorente (Real Madrid)
• Marco Asensio (Real Mallorca)
• Francisco Román Alarcón Suárez "Isco" (Valencia CF)
• Dani Ceballos (Sevilla FC)
• Lucas Vázquez (Real Madrid)
• Borja Mayoral (Real Madrid)

5 of the 11 Sspaniards in the Real Madrid squad originate from La Fábrica which is the nickname of the Real Madrid academy. This is apparently during the whole history of the club the the third largest contingent of Real Madrid nurtured players although in fairness not many are first team players with only Dani Carvajal being a proper first teamer and Lucas Vázquez having the second most minutes from the authentic Real players.

Real Madrid are way way down the pecking order of clubs that have a big history in bringing through their own players to become the protagonists,. But that also tells you the size of that club and the obligations they feel as an entity in terms of what they have to provide which is only success and victory.

In general throughout the history of the club they have produced some magnificent players but the grand majority have gone onto make their name at other clubs.

Florentino Pérez seemingly tired of the Galáctico tag has switched the way he signs players in recent times with the scouring of La Liga in the search of promising young Spanish footballers.  Add to that his appointment of the new coach in Julen Lopetegui who is renowned for being great with young talent and we seem to have a search for a new era and the way the club portrays itself in this respect.

i'm a little skeptical about this Sir.  Coz the way i see it, Perez has no choice but to go that way ( developing of youngsters ) coz all his targets are locked in to their clubs.    If PSG would one day say that Neymar and Mbappe is for sale for sure Perez will break the bank just to land those two.

[Cicero]

 

[El Profesor]

20 hours ago, SirBalon said:

Real Madrid have produced many marvellous players over the decades but most of Real Madrid's greatest Spanish players have come from other Spanish clubs. Then there are those three contemporary Real Madrid Spanish legends people keep on bringing up in the shape of Raúl and Casillas... Both those players although brought up almost entirely at the club (I say almost because Raúl started at Atlético Madrid's academy) were made to leave out through back door without being offered the usual Spanish recognition given to club legends.

Out of the present squad and the one that was used last season, these are the Spanish players and from which clubs they originate from.

• Kiko Casilla (Gimnàstic de Tarragona)
• Dani Carvajal (Real Madrid)
• Jesús Vallejo ( Real Zaragoza)
• Sergio Ramos (Sevilla FC)
• Nacho (Real Madrid)
• Marcos Llorente (Real Madrid)
• Marco Asensio (Real Mallorca)
• Francisco Román Alarcón Suárez "Isco" (Valencia CF)
• Dani Ceballos (Sevilla FC)
• Lucas Vázquez (Real Madrid)
• Borja Mayoral (Real Madrid)

5 of the 11 Sspaniards in the Real Madrid squad originate from La Fábrica which is the nickname of the Real Madrid academy. This is apparently during the whole history of the club the the third largest contingent of Real Madrid nurtured players although in fairness not many are first team players with only Dani Carvajal being a proper first teamer and Lucas Vázquez having the second most minutes from the authentic Real players.

Real Madrid are way way down the pecking order of clubs that have a big history in bringing through their own players to become the protagonists,. But that also tells you the size of that club and the obligations they feel as an entity in terms of what they have to provide which is only success and victory.

In general throughout the history of the club they have produced some magnificent players but the grand majority have gone onto make their name at other clubs.

Florentino Pérez seemingly tired of the Galáctico tag has switched the way he signs players in recent times with the scouring of La Liga in the search of promising young Spanish footballers.  Add to that his appointment of the new coach in Julen Lopetegui who is renowned for being great with young talent and we seem to have a search for a new era and the way the club portrays itself in this respect.

 

Great post, Antoñito. Do you think the success Barcelona had in the Iniesta, Xavi, Messi era is responsible for Florentino´s shift of philosophy? Despite the recent Champions League success I doubt he´s satisfied with Barcelona getting closer and closer at their record number of La Liga titles.

Like you said, Lopetegui is known for his work with youngsters and they also spent a lot of money on Vinícius Jr. and Rodrygo. And it´ll also be interesting if Odegaard gets a look. 

 

[Kowabunga]

Is @Blue a trendsetter or a body snatcher?

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Kowabunga said:

Is @Blue a trendsetter or a body snatcher?

 

Its hardly shocking mate, its a very common opinion and its a very true one at that.

[SirBalon]

It's hilarious! 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

It's hilarious! 

Hilarious if you're a dipshit that thinks discrimination isnt in football.

sorry if I'm being a bit assertive, I just went on a 11 match winless run on Football Manager so I'm a bit pissed.

Edited July 19, 2018 by Guest

[SirBalon]

9 minutes ago, Blue said:

Hilarious if you're a dipshit that thinks discrimination isnt in football.

sorry if I'm being a bit assertive, I just went on a 11 match winless run on Football Manager so I'm a bit pissed.

You’ve precipitated yourself with your comment.

It’s hilarious because it’s rubbish and untrue. Just because that guy said it doesn’t make it true. We’ve been through this already. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, SirBalon said:

You’ve precipitated yourself with your comment.

It’s hilarious because it’s rubbish and untrue. Just because that guy said it doesn’t make it true. We’ve been through this already. 

I'm sorry for the comment mate just in an obnoxious mood at the moment.

Its hardly rubbish. You just need to pay attention to patterns. Take De Gea for example, great keeper but he makes a lot of mistakes from time to time and gets away with it. That's because he's had a good CV in football due to nationality and clubs. Even Neymar struggled with it early in his career, where even when he was at Barca, he wasn't good enough because of "Rubbish Brazil league".

[Burning Gold]

28 minutes ago, Blue said:

Hilarious if you're a dipshit that thinks discrimination isnt in football.

sorry if I'm being a bit assertive, I just went on a 11 match winless run on Football Manager so I'm a bit pissed.

Try being passionate instead mate 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Burning Gold said:

Try being passionate instead mate 

I've been spamming the aggressive team talk on it, game has made me lose all sense  

[RandoEFC+]

It's a weird phenomenon how giving an aggressive team talk on Football Manager actually makes a difference to your frustration and makes you feel like you've got something off your chest when in actual fact all you've done is pressed one button different than if you'd told the players calmly that they were absolutely shite. There's an interesting psychological case study there I'm sure.

[Carnivore Chris]

If Marca are to be belived, then it looks like Real will buy out Icardi's clause, which stands at 110 million.

[bozziovai]

look at how stupid Perez is ---------------

 

Eden Hazard contract

Real Madrid are willing to pay Eden Hazard a staggering weekly wage to join them from Chelsea.

Todomercadoweb claim Hazard will pick up a staggering £13.42m (€15m) AFTER tax in Spain.

That equates to a gross annual salary of £29.8m (€33.4m), which boils down to £440,000 a week.

Hazard has been offered a £350,000-a-week contract at Chelsea, with his current deal expiring in 2020.

 

Perez is willing to pay Hazard which has done nothing for Madrid to a near 500k per week salary, but can't give that to Ronaldo.     I'm sorry this ain't about ronaldo but just proof of how crazy Perez is .....

[El Profesor]

Vinícius Jr. was oficially presented today. He was already training with the group. It´ll be interesting to see if he´ll make the team or if they´ll send him to Castilla. apparently, he is impressing in the training sessions. 

 

 

[SirBalon]

On 20 July 2018 at 19:29, El Profesor said:

Vinícius Jr. was oficially presented today. He was already training with the group. It´ll be interesting to see if he´ll make the team or if they´ll send him to Castilla. apparently, he is impressing in the training sessions. 

 

 

He hasn't been given a number yet which is unusual unless more players will be sold or what they're speculating that he could start in RM Castilla to get him bedded in.

[God is Haaland]

If it had happened in a CL (semi-) final, it would have been a red for the opponent and a penalty for Madrid. @Teso dos Bichos will make excuses.

[Kowabunga]

10 hours ago, BartraPique1932 said:

If it had happened in a CL (semi-) final, it would have been a red for the opponent and a penalty for Madrid. @Teso dos Bichos will make excuses.

With that video I cannot confirm a dive. He may have been poked in the eye.

[SirBalon]

22 minutes ago, Kowabunga said:

With that video I cannot confirm a dive. He may have been poked in the eye.

Mou has a long arm! 

[Kowabunga]

32 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

Mou has a long arm! 

Long enough to be seen in front of the face of Vinícius.

[SirBalon]

48 minutes ago, Kowabunga said:

Long enough to be seen in front of the face of Vinícius.

Well he is the special one isn't he? 

[Cicero]

I miss the days when Real had Lassana Diarra and Fernando Gago as their midfield pair 

[SirBalon]

1 hour ago, Cicero said:

I miss the days when Real had Lassana Diarra and Fernando Gago as their midfield pair 

Those were the days... My favourite Real midfield by far.