Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted July 18, 2018 Subscriber Posted July 18, 2018 This thread seemed to prompt some decent discussion last season, where over half of the managers that started the season either left or were sacked before the end of the season. With Sarri now in place at Chelsea, we have twenty managers who will presumably be taking the reins in the Premier League on the first day of the season. Below are some odds (Bet Victor) on who is going to be the next Premier League Manager to Leave (so not necessarily "sacked"): 6/1 - Mark Hughes (Southampton) and Javi Gracia (Watford) 8/1 - Roy Hodgson (Crystal Palace) and Rafael Benitez (Newcastle) 10/1 - Claude Puel (Leicester) and Chris Hughton (Brighton) 12/1 - Neil Warnock (Cardiff) 14/1 - Nuno Santo (Wolves) 16/1 - Eddie Howe (Bournemouth), Sean Dyche (Burnley), David Wagner (Huddersfield) and Manuel Pellegrini (West Ham) 20/1 - Marco Silva (Everton) and Slavisa Jokanovic (Fulham) 33/1 - Jose Mourinho (Manchester United), Pep Guardiola (Manchester City), Mauricio Pochettino (Tottenham) and Jurgen Klopp (Liverpool) 50/1 - Unai Emery (Arsenal) My money would probably go on Gracia based on nothing but gut feeling. In terms of the best value there, it's hard to spot, possibly Puel if Leicester have a bad start or maybe Pellegrini - West Ham can be a bit weird and they have a very difficult fixture list to begin the season.
Administrator Stan Posted July 18, 2018 Administrator Posted July 18, 2018 Klopp when he hasn't won the title by October Right, @LFCMadLad ?
Dave Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 I think I must have been the only person to have picked DeBoer last time This year i say Puel.
LFCMadLad Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 I also think Puel. Woy could also struggle this season I reckon but only because of lack of squad depth.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted July 18, 2018 Author Subscriber Posted July 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: I think I must have been the only person to have picked DeBoer last time This year i say Puel. Just had a flick through last year's first page. Most people were all over Hughes and Bilic, you were closest to picking De Boer, your second pick after Bilic. @Cannabis had De Boer down to be sacked at some point but not first. Nobody else mentioned him. He was at 12/1 with the bookies.
Dave Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 8 hours ago, RandoEFC said: Just had a flick through last year's first page. Most people were all over Hughes and Bilic, you were closest to picking De Boer, your second pick after Bilic. @Cannabis had De Boer down to be sacked at some point but not first. Nobody else mentioned him. He was at 12/1 with the bookies. Apart from Hodgson (who I think will go at the end of the season) i think everybody from under 16/1 will either get canned or resign at some point because of the culture we are now in. There's only four Managers there I definitely see staying in to next season. There's five that could well move on to progress their careers. The rest are pretty much two poor months before being in serious trouble.
Danny Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Gracia. Second season will be a big test for Hughton, I'm not sure he'll still have his job.
Administrator Stan Posted July 19, 2018 Administrator Posted July 19, 2018 56 minutes ago, Cannabis said: Hughes, Gracia, Woy, Benitez, Puel, Hughton and Warnock won't see out the season. I have a sneaky feeling Pellegrini won't either, if it starts badly and the scenes of last season come back then he'll walk. Same with Benitez really, I don't think he will be sacked but I do think he's losing patience at some factors of the circus. is Silva safe? what if by December you find yourself near relegation?
Administrator Stan Posted July 19, 2018 Administrator Posted July 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cannabis said: I've not included Silva on the basis that I don't think he will fuck this season up that badly. If we are near relegation then yes, he will need to go but at worst I think we will be floating around 10-12th. This season is about transitioning from the clusterfuck of Koeman, Walsh and Allardyce and turning us back into a stable, European flirting team. I'd like to say the same about us in that Puel's had a good summer so far getting in players he thinks will fit in to our system as well as losing one of the biggest stars we've ever had. Puel came in last October with the club in a bit of a shit place in the league. I think if we're around 10th by Xmas it puts us in a good position for the 2nd half of the season and make a push for Europe. Adjusting to losing Mahrez might take longer than some of our fans think. We've lost a creative player in what was not a creative side so here's hoping the likes of Maddison, Gray, Diabate, Albrighton (and any other attacking player we might sign) can hit the ground running. I'd love for us to get in to Europe again next season but it's not the end of the world if we don't.
bozziovai Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 this is the discussion of DOOM. Newcastle can't afford to sack Benitez, he is their savior but i'm seeing Leicester as the team that has a short wick on it's dynamite with their manager. at the end of this season, if United fails to lift a trophy, i'm expecting Jose to go to PSG ...
Danny Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 I think Woy keeps Palace comfortably midtable with a Europa push.
Smiley Culture Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Puel or Gracia. Puel is a massive fraud and Watford have gone too long, by their standards, without sacking a manager. I can see Marco Silva getting the boot at Everton as well. His defensive record at Premier League clubs is horrific and though I do understand the clubs he managed were Hull and Watford, two relatively small clubs by Premier League standards, but with the defence he has at his disposal (Martina, Keane and Williams to name a few) and the fact that Everton don’t seem to have addressed their defensive frailties as of yet this summer, I can see them shipping goals and subsequently losing games, which won’t go down well.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted July 19, 2018 Author Subscriber Posted July 19, 2018 Silva won't be the first to get the bullet. He's not a guaranteed success but after last season's calamity I expect the club to have learned from their mistakes and only resort to sacking him during the season if the threat of relegation is really genuine. Even if we finish about 12th I expect him to be given more time as the philosophy at the club has shifted away from "omg we've got money we need to get in the top 4 and win the FA Cup yesterday" to one where there's a long term plan which will only be torn up if it becomes a real disaster in the short term or just fails to show enough progress over at least a couple of seasons.
LFCMadLad Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, RandoEFC said: Silva won't be the first to get the bullet. He's not a guaranteed success but after last season's calamity I expect the club to have learned from their mistakes and only resort to sacking him during the season if the threat of relegation is really genuine. Even if we finish about 12th I expect him to be given more time as the philosophy at the club has shifted away from "omg we've got money we need to get in the top 4 and win the FA Cup yesterday" to one where there's a long term plan which will only be torn up if it becomes a real disaster in the short term or just fails to show enough progress over at least a couple of seasons. Agree with that. It's pointless sacking a manager before he's had the chance to implement his philosophy's and had chance to recruit the players that suit it. That can't all be done in a few months and 1 transfer window. I think Silva should and will be given time.
Smiley Culture Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Agree with that. It's pointless sacking a manager before he's had the chance to implement his philosophy's and had chance to recruit the players that suit it. That can't all be done in a few months and 1 transfer window. I think Silva should and will be given time. Isn’t that exactly what happened under Koeman AND Allardyce?
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted July 19, 2018 Author Subscriber Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: Isn’t that exactly what happened under Koeman AND Allardyce? Koeman had over a season and was potentially taking us down but in retrospect I think given the same circumstances again they'd gave given him more time. I was calling for his head at the time but with the lack of a replacement being sorted he probably should have had longer. Allardyce simply can't be taken seriously as a long term appointment and if that isn't obvious then there's no point in trying to explain why. It should also be obvious that just because we made mistakes last season when Moshiri found himself in a new situation having just spunked a load of his money on transfers doesn't mean that we're going to make the same mistakes again this season and every subsequent season. Clubs change and people tend to learn from their mistakes (apart from Chelsea ).
Guest Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Cicero said: Mourinho's 3rd season.... Could be
Rick Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 If Utd don't splash much cash then Mourinho will twine and the ball could start rolling
Subscriber Dan+ Posted July 20, 2018 Subscriber Posted July 20, 2018 Puel should be favourite. He only just held onto his job this summer. A bad start and he's in trouble.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted July 20, 2018 Subscriber Posted July 20, 2018 Going to predict the whole league. Sit tight and revisit this one in a year... Arsenal | Emery - Sees next season Bournemouth | Howe - Sees next season Brighton | Hughton - Sees next season Burnley | Dyche - Sees next season Cardiff | Warnock - Sacked in December Chelsea | Sarri - Sees next season Crystal Palace | Hodgson - Sacked in February Everton | Silva - Sees next season Fulham | Jokanovic - Leaves at the end of the season Huddersfield | Wagner - Sees next season Leicester | Puel - Sacked in November Liverpool | Klopp - Sees next season Man City | Guardiola - Sees next season Man Utd | Mourinho - Leaves at the end of the season Newcastle | Benitez - Leaves during the season for another club Southampton | Hughes - Sacked in January Tottenham | Pochettino - Sees next season Watford | Gracia - Leaves at the end of the season West Ham | Pellegrini - Sees next season Wolves | Nuno - Leaves at the end of the season I don't see as many sackings this year for some reason.
Smiley Culture Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 Brighton, Palace, Cardiff, Everton, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton and Watford to have managerial changes this season.
Dave Posted July 21, 2018 Posted July 21, 2018 I think Hodgson will retire at the end of the season. He's gained quite a respected status here and should leave on his terms. The shit thing is were too short sighted to put a replacement strategy in place.
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