Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted November 2, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted November 2, 2018 As the title says, can they survive? it's a long read but the only 2 shows amongst the one's the BeeB mentioned that I have ever watched is Jeremy Clarkson & Top Gear and Charlie Sheen & Two and a Half Men. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-46059026 Edit: Admin/Mods I messed the poll up with this above it: 1. The title says it really and this is a long read but mentions shows like House of Cards, The Office, Two and a Half Men etc, the only shows I watch when I can is Top Gear with Jeremy Clarkson & co and Charlie Sheen in Tow and a Half men Could you please delete that above the poll as this is the first time I have added a poll but can't edit and correct the actual heading, cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 In general its more likely to fail than succeed but it can be done. The more charismatic the lead, and the more dependant the show is on its lead, the harder he/she is to replace. I’d stopped watching the office and house of cards before the lead ever left so I can’t speak to them. Two and a half men was a shitty show no mater who the lead was. The Sopranos would have failed without Tony, as would Peaky Blinders without Tommy Shelby, but the Wire would have succeeded without Jimmy McNulty, and I’m still enjoying Vikings despite Ragnar Lothbrok winding up a season or two ago. I thought Game of Thrones might struggle after Sean Bean left in Season 1, but they moved on as did the story. I think that’s probably the key. If the aim is to just replace the lead and keep up the same magic then it will more often fail. If the aim is to just move in another direction then its got a better chance. Welcome to the forum by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted November 2, 2018 Author Subscriber Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Harry said: Welcome to the forum by the way! Thank you, glad to be here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted November 2, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 2, 2018 Two and a Half Men was shit even with Charlie Sheen. At least after the first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Citizen Khan survived when Dave was changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...Dan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 What would Two and a Half Men be called without its man stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 2, 2018 Administrator Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, CaaC - John said: As the title says, can they survive? it's a long read but the only 2 shows amongst the one's the BeeB mentioned that I have ever watched is Jeremy Clarkson & Top Gear and Charlie Sheen & Two and a Half Men. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-46059026 Edit: Admin/Mods I messed the poll up with this above it: 1. The title says it really and this is a long read but mentions shows like House of Cards, The Office, Two and a Half Men etc, the only shows I watch when I can is Top Gear with Jeremy Clarkson & co and Charlie Sheen in Tow and a Half men Could you please delete that above the poll as this is the first time I have added a poll but can't edit and correct the actual heading, cheers Done. For what it's worth, it depends where the show is when the main star leaves/gets sacked. House of Cards was coming to an end as it was and had probably outstayed it's welcome anyway, so Kevin Spacey leaving was a nail in the coffin for it to end anyway. I never watched Two and A Half Men. Top Gear only worked with Clarkson, Hammond & May. Whether you liked them or not, they had the kind of dynamic which clicked. Any replacements or attempts since have tried and failed and it's just not the same any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, ...Dan said: What would Two and a Half Men be called without its man stars? Didn't that already happen? It became Alan and Ashton Kutcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Depends. Are we watching the show for it's stars or it's story. Two and a half men is a steaming pile of horseshit. It needed Sheen to provide it personality, thus it sucked dick when he left. Game of thrones didn't 'need' the character of Ned Stark or the star power of Sean Bean because theres so much more going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Need Starks death was truly shocking though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Sean Bean dying in the first season was mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Danny said: Sean Bean dying in the first season was mental That actually may have been genius. GOT really took off popularity wise after season 1. And the Ned stark death was hugely influential... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Harry said: That actually may have been genius. GOT really took off popularity wise after season 1. And the Ned stark death was hugely influential... It was just very typical of GoT for a period of time, brilliant storylines, great dialogue, characters who you literally hated they were that good and then anyone could die at any moment. Then they ran past the book and whilst exciting, and with some great episodes backed up by a bigger budget than previous series, they lost the thrill that anyone could go at anytime and you were basically left knowing that all your favourite characters were basically safe until the final series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 03/11/2018 at 01:04, Cicero said: Need Starks death was truly shocking though I remember being in shock. Just didn't expect it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 ****Spoilers below**** Rick in walking dead is going soon. Possibly this week. Will be interesting to see what it is like without him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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