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Looks like I also need to add to this: You can simultaneously criticise the government for their slow response and also blame individuals breaking lockdown rules for their own decisions. I know this country has been all about Remain vs Leave, In vs Out, Black vs White for the last 5 years but can we please try and stop trying to make everything an absolute black and white answer? I thought we were relatively safe from that on this forum.3 points
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You can criticise and question your government's for their response without absolving the Chinese government for their role in how this has developed. You can simultaneously be pleased that the prime minister has recovered from Covid-19 while still questioning his and his government's handling of the crisis. Questioning the government on one issue doesn't make you a "left wing fanatic" any more than supporting the government on one issue makes you a "right wing nut job". Come on guys. Don't expect everyone who doesn't like Johnson or the Conservatives to suddenly "see the light" just because the bloke got sick and recovered. I've genuinely seen about 100 times more posts like this one here than people actually wishing him ill. What I have seen is a lot of people pointing out quite rightly that Boris Johnson rode the Brexit bus to power, a campaign which was built heavily upon anti-immigrant sentiment, and that he was a part of the Conservative party that voted against giving nurses a pay rise just a few years ago and cheered in the House of Commons when the result was announced. Both of these things are factual and relevant today where the same Boris Johnson owes his life to two immigrants working for the NHS. Another thing I've seen is a lot of Johnson/Conservative sympathisers across the internet trying to conflate these points with wishing the prime minister ill to make those asking fair questions look like the bad guys. The bloke has literally had his life saved by people he arguably trod on on his way to being prime minister (see above). These are nice words, yes, but that's not enough to forget the fact that his ticket to power, Vote Leave, campaigned heavily on reducing immigration to this country as if it was a bad thing, he literally voted against those who have this week saved his life from getting a pay rise back in 2017 while his party cheered and sneered, and even in 2020, his government begins working to kick out "unskilled workers" that weren't born here. 10 years of contempt for public services and immigrants from the Conservative party and ironically he could have died without either a matter of days ago. It will take a bit more than a short speech thanking them for the slate to be wiped clean. They'd appreciate the appropriate protective equipment and effective testing to take place to ease the pressure on the NHS more than more empty words. That said, the decimation of the NHS over the past decade doesn't fall as much at Johnson's feet or the current government. This is an issue that goes back to David Cameron's premiership. And it was a nice touch to mention the two nurses by name.2 points
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I expect you F1 addicts to get 100% on this https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/522285271 point
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You can do it yourself here: https://talkfootball365.com/settings/country/1 point
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Of course he'll be humble and grateful. How can he not be? If anyone is upset that he 'didn't cop it' then they're just cunts really, as has been said before. While it's good to know he's recovered and now resting back at home, the reality for thousands of other people across the country is that there are still nearly 1000 people dying a day and case numbers continue to be shockingly high. Might be a shot in the arm for some but for others, the stark reality is that relatives/friends, even hospital workers are dying on the frontlines trying to combat the virus. There's nothing to criticise about that speech. But what can be criticised (and I think it is fair to do so) is the treatment of migrant workers (some in the NHS) that were somewhat targeted back in 2016 amidst the pre-Brexit debates. And now the tables have turned - immigrants working in the NHS were saving the life of the Prime Minister who wanted to restrict their movement a mere few years ago. Not to mention as well he is member of the party that voted against pay-rise to NHS workers as well...1 point
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It wasn't her video, per se. As @Danny said she was using it as comparison to how Ireland reacted in the same scenario - shut down their national Saints day!! While UK carried on holding events with 1000s of people. I still don't see where she says China are blameless here - in fact I don't recall her specficially mentioning China at all. So I'm now wondering where the agenda is? Where/when did the WHO claim the virus wouldn't be a global problem? Genuinely missed that if that has happened Who's blaming families going for walks? In UK that's just what has been advised so they're not going to be the direct spread are they if they're walking and being socially distant as advised? I don't get how countries not acting quick enough is a separate blame. There's culpability all over the place, literally. You're right in that China perhaps could have acted quicker and definitely should have listened to that whistleblower doctor who sadly lost his life shortly after. But then just because China acted slowly and lacked responsibility, doesn't absolve other countries in the aftermath of the spread. Nothing to do with being scared but sometimes each individual country has to take responsibility for their own actions as well. Blame the government all you want, I don't disagree with that bit. But then to not blame people for having parties when it's explicitly been said not to do specifically that. In relation to the above paragraph, people have to be responsible as well. Just because some shit happened before (the bat-eaters in China) doesn't mean you can carry on doing what you want (the house parties in UK) because you think someone else is to blame. That's like saying someone caused a gas leak in your street but you're gonna carry on cooking on your stove because you're hungry. You have to use your common sense and think about the bigger picture. Also, while people having a party in whatever place may not be immediately the brightest idea, it's the knock-on effect of that. Say there's 20 people in that house. It only takes one person there to have the virus. They come in to contact with all 20 people. Boom. Virus is now having a field day. Those 20 people now go back home to their families, some elderly. Virus is thinking they've hit the fucking jackpot here. Knock off some elderly people, stick some other relatives in hospital and take up some beds and ICU rooms in a hospital. Now that one person originally at the party has caused that... I'm not sure what else to say about it because you seem hell-bent on blaming China and only China. And therein lies the issue. I'm not saying they shouldn't have any blame. Far from it. But it's how other countries and perhaps governments/individuals within those countries that have reacted (poorly in some parts) who have also been a catalyst for the spread.1 point
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She was using the video that somebody else posted, to highlight that the weekend that Ireland cancelled St. Patrick’s Day there was a giant Stereophonics concert happening in Cardiff. The lady who wrote the thread didn’t mention China...1 point
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Ironic you say 'lefties' then say its nothing about political agendas? I don't think she's totally discounting China. Just that people as well could have helped themselves by minimising risk and not going round in groups. Some people should not totally be absolved of blame. That's not to say China aren't to blame if you do, but maybe the spread of the virus could have been restricted.1 point
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I know. But some people seem to be unteachable until they get to experience proper consequences. The jail thing I said was probably a bit too harsh, but I still so many people around me who are just too frivolous and silly when it comes to the virus.1 point
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This reminds me of some great 'nature is healing' memes on Twitter in the last couple of weeks1 point
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I got the nick-name Aussie when I joined the army in 1972 after coming back from Australia, I had a right Aussie accent and when one of the NCO's asked where was I from and I told him he said "Ok, we will call you Aussie as we have too many with names like Skippy, Blue, Wally (Wallabee) etc..." and that name has stuck since 1972, even at my last job before I retired they called me Aussie.1 point
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Click tweet for the thread on how Ireland started locking down 2 weeks before UK, where people were just washing their hands and arguing that we can't shut schools because who will look after kids.1 point
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Just spoke with my sister about this and I hope you and your family are safe. It's amazing how fast things disappear even in the mornings when places open up.1 point
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50,000-year-old string found at France Neanderthal site A piece of 50,000-year-old string - the oldest yet discovered - found in a cave in France has cast further doubt on the idea that Neanderthals were cognitively inferior to modern humans. A study published in Scientific Reports said a tiny, three-ply chord fragment made from bark was spotted on a stone tool recovered from the Abri du Maras. It implies that Neanderthals understood concepts like pairs, sets and numbers. Twisted fibres provide the basis for clothes, bags, nets and even boats. Neanderthals - whose species died out about 40,000 years ago - are already known to have made birch bark tar, art and shell beads. They also controlled fire, lived in shelters, were skilled hunters of large animals and deliberately buried their dead in graves. Neanderthals ate sharks and dolphins Neanderthal 'skeleton' is first found in a decade Neanderthal 'glue' points to complex thinking Typically, archaeologists and paleoanthropologists only find faunal remains or stone tools at sites like the Abri du Maras. Perishable materials are usually missing. But a team of researchers from France, the US and Spain discovered a fragment of chord adhering to the underside of a 60mm- (2.4-inch-) long stone tool. The chord, believed to have been made with the inner bark of a conifer tree, was approximately 6.2mm long and 0.5mm wide. Three groups of fibres were separated and twisted clockwise in an "S-twist". Once twisted, the strands were twined anti-clockwise in "Z-twist" to form a chord. The study - whose lead author was Bruce Hardy of Kenyon College in Ohio - concluded that the production of the chord demonstrated that Neanderthals had a detailed ecological understanding of trees and how to transform them into entirely different functional substances. The production of the chord also implied a cognitive understanding of numeracy and context-sensitive operational memory, according to the study. That is because it required keeping track of multiple, sequential operations simultaneously. "Given the ongoing revelations of Neanderthal art and technology, it is difficult to see how we can regard Neanderthals as anything other than the cognitive equals of modern humans," the study said. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-522673830 points