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As far as I'm aware he can only play centrally? Mad that you're moaning about lack of investment over 12-18 months when the two biggest trophies we all wanted have been delivered in that time, the mind boggles. There's also a couple of kids who will play a more prominent role this season (Curtis Jones potentially has a big season ahead of him) but it's like they don't count because they didn't cost a fortune. With the improvements of some players here already we're already potentially stronger. Of course there's going to need to be investment at some point and ideally I'd like to see at least one more addition but if it doesn't happen I'm ok with that. Start moaning if we stop winning. Or if we lose Wijnaldum without replacing him3 points
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I can understand being frustrated with the situation, believe me I am too. But the club doesn't want to take out loans to place debt onto the club... and given with what Gillett and Hicks did with us, you'd think a lot more LFC fans would be appreciative of us not taking these sort of financial risks. It's more annoying that they aren't looking to spend invest a bit of FSG's money - which they surely have as the Red Sox and Liverpool are two of the more profitable sports sides in the world. I think it's fair to say they've learned a bit from the Red Sox "World" Series win... and then the subsequent drop from that. One of the big issues there was the Red Sox didn't retain star players after winning. One thing we did after we made the CL final against Real Madrid was invest heavily in making sure our core group of very good players is tied down, for the most part, to pretty long deals. It seems out of all our key players, Wijnaldum's the only one that didn't get a bumper deal - and that might be because he was on pretty low wages and a long contract in the first place. If they hadn't done that, likely what would have happened after we won the CL and got 97 points was Barca, Real Madrid, PSG, City, etc... would start circling and throw cash at us to take our best players away. Look at Ajax and how big clubs circle like vultures every time they've looked like they've built a decent side since the 90s. The vultures circle and pick away at that good side. We don't have unlimited resources and managed to improve the side and get good players on big long contracts... all while we've expanded Anfield a bit and are looking to develop a new training centre. Yes, we've made a lot of money. But without taking out loans (which I'm not opposed to being adverse to getting massive loans while the financial circumstances in football are sort of up in the air), it's hard to see us progressing while spending so much on the club's long term infrastructure. Especially while the club isn't making anywhere near as much money as it would otherwise be making because they haven't been able to have fans in the stadium and clubs have been asked to reimburse broadcasters for broadcasting delays over covid (although apparently that's being spaced out over lots of seasons, to reduce this would cause for some clubs). I wholeheartedly agree that it's very frustrating, especially when we've got the best Liverpool squad in our lifetimes (well... unless you're older than me, then you can maybe argue it's not that good... but I'd argue it is because they got 99 points last season) and arguably the best manager in Europe. And as fans, we want to see him get a big warchest and improve on this already really impressive Liverpool. But we've seen before, that Klopp and Edwards aren't the kind of people who just spend for the sake of depth. Seems like if it's over a certain price... we only an effort to secure the player if there is a consensus that the player will improve us. Our most pressing signings right now are bringing in depth at CB and for the attack (Thiago's looking our most likely signing, but tbh if Gini isn't going anywhere... it's a bit of a luxury signing. I know Thiago's world class and better than Wijnaldum... but central midfield is certainly an area where we've got a lot of depth and quality). Normally, we've seen Klopp and Edwards act early in the transfer window when they've identified the players they want. But I'm not sure this is a normal transfer window. Selling clubs are setting prices like covid never happened, buying clubs (other than the English oil clubs, really) are the only buyers that are acting like the transfer market is normal. I suspect we'll make signings still during this window... I just think it'll be abnormal compared to how Klopp/Edwards like to operate because I think most of our business in transfer windows - in that they'll be working late into the window. Which we've only really ever seen once in Klopp's time with us - to secure Keita's signature (a year early before he joined us) and Virgil... which took us two transfer windows to get over the line.2 points
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Hey, Rooney was way into that as well. Back when Tiger woods got undone by this kind of shit (but x1000) my friend and I were discussing what we would likely do if we were rich and famous in terms of relationships. The conclusion we came to was that you shouldn't be having a wife/committed relationship or kids before you retire, or at least until you're 30. There's just so much top quality cooch coming your way all the time you're never going to be able to resist it all all the time. As we know, men are werewolves. One part civilized and socialized and one part horny fucking testosterone monster. All men are a different mix of each, but rest assured, the beast will get its way. Not everyone is gonna be a twat like Foeden and premeditated bring chicks into a locked down zone to cheat on your misso, but out drunk with the lads, or on the marching powder, you're asking for trouble. Anyone living the lambo life has no business having a kid at 20, or a committed misso unless you have a predetermined understanding.2 points
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Youre right, I should probably reserve judgment until the end of the window. My concerns over the squad stand.1 point
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I don’t get excited over transfers, I’m not 12 years old. We do need some holes filled in this squad, which is all I’m asking for. Havertz would have been a luxury and one I would have loved, mind. @Dr. Gonzo Some good points there mate. Signing our best players to long term contracts after that CL win was massive.1 point
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I think some fans would be happier if we were 4th/5th and needing to sign four or five each summer just so they can get 'excited' over transfers.1 point
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Talk about us being open to sellIng Brewster. That’ll push me over the edge. Make no mistake, I’m forever grateful to Klopp, the coaching and the players for winning us the league for the first time in my life. My aggravations are not aimed at any of those. People can post stats and in depth financial figures to try and explain this lack of spending but it all comes down to one thing; stinginess. I’m not having this “we don’t wanna take loans and put the club in jeopardy” stuff, we hadn’t spent on the squad for 18 months before COVID 19, so I’m not having that being used at the excuse and reason to be this tight. Record prize money for a Champions League winner, record prize money for a Premier League winner. Club World Cup winners. New massive contract with Nike. Numerous lucrative partner and sponsorship deals. Where is all the money going? Other clubs are improving their stadiums/ building new ones and improving their training grounds. Clubs in a lesser financial position than us are doing this while also improving their squads. FSG have been great for us, but let’s not forget their missteps along the way. Trying to increase season tickets, wanting to furlough non playing staff. They are money oriented, every owner is and I understand that. But these lot take the biscuit, our net spend over the last few years is clear evidence of this. Klopp has worked wonders with this team, and our success if down to him and amazing recruitment. We aren’t fucking Burnley. If we aren’t prepared to invest in the team while it’s on top, to keep us on top, then what is the point? There’s no reward without risk, and hearing stories of the owners making the same sort of mistakes with the Red Sox is very worrying. I’m disappointed beyond belief that it looks like we are standing still while our closest rivals are all strengthening. I mean for fuck sake you have ‘mr unambitious’ Mike Ashley giving funds for 20m on Callum Wilson and we can’t pluck up the cash to bring in centre half cover. Happy with the team, not happy with the club right now. Think they are on course to waste this golden opportunity with these decisions. And I know that this will be an unpopular opinion with a couple of fans on here. Most likely be told to believe in Klopp. I believe in that mans abilities to no end, but when his hands are getting tied tighter and tighter it makes his job harder than it should be. He deserves to be given funds to improve, and anybody saying he will be happy having to put Fabinho in at the back, and lose him in midfield is naive to say the least.1 point
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Talking of that, My daughter has just told me that someone did a live stream on Tik Tok shooting himself in the head... Jesus, kids use that as well...1 point
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Tbh, I'm gonna hold off altogether for the time being. I remember getting a PS4 shortly after launch and while Battlefield 4 was good, there was pretty much nothing worthwhile until Alien Isolation and Shadow of Mordor almost a year later. That and I still have a fair amount to play on my PS4 and Switch anyway.1 point
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15 year old shot in his head on the way to school in Suffolk today. To be honest though the shootings and stabbings in this country are more rife than they report as I'm subscribed to a YouTube channel of a fella from Birmingham who reports these incidents and there are many daily, although I suppose this has nwvr changed. Because the news doesn't report it in many cases, these problems in society are hidden. Kids shouldn't be getting shot in the head in this day and age but this isn't something rare anymore. The shooter was also 15 himself.1 point
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With how late people grow up nowadays I think 20 is too early for anyone to have a kid. Footballers should probably wait until the career is coming to an end.1 point
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I get why they had to be sent home but some reacting (not on here) as if they should be banned from the national team forever are insane.1 point
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Your owners aren't benefactors, they're businessmen like any other and they bought Liverpool to make money. It just so happens to success on the pitch leads to money off the pitch but they are not going to be funding when they see it as unnecessary. Let's not forget their attempts to raise ticket prices, furlough staff etc, it's only because of Liverpool's relatively belligerent fanbase that they've changed course on these things. Football clubs will never properly a part of the community until we have part fan ownership.1 point
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