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Isn't that just the nature of science? You learn more things as you go - and this was a novel virus when the first outbreaks started spreading. We are honestly fortunate that there was vaccine work done for SARS and MERS that could be built on for the current vaccines we have available and that we weren't having to have our scientists make a vaccine from scratch. I don't think scientists changing their mind about things they uncover about what was very recently a novel virus is that much of a concern - I think it would be weirder if scientists positions weren't changing based off what they've learned from their observations. I don't think viewing "science" as a know it all is really the right way to be looking at it. Scientists make their decisions based off what they observe and what they learn - the more we observe and learn from COVID the better their guidance will be. Using science to back decisions made for medical health/public health is very reasonable because it's based off what experts have observed and learned from. I think it's certainly better than relying on business decisions for matters of public health (because when you put profits ahead of public health, it'll dictate that everything goes back to pretty much what life was like pre-pandemic without much concern for how many people die of COVID) or what's politically convenient (which I think Boris Johnson still hasn't really learned )

Just heard on the news from a professor/scientific expert that the risk of heart inflammation is much lower than first thought, including for younger people/children as well as adults. Just to reiterate, this was heard from a scientific expert as opposed to your average protein-shaking, steroid-taking, gym-goer. Just saying.

Bet he cooked it in his kitchen.

@Spike

Remember former Bayer Leverkusen managing director Reiner Calmund? This is him now: He had a gastric bypass surgery in order to lose weight. And he looks like a completely different person now. Good on him! He probably wouldn't have lived too much longer with his previous weight.

I didn't say anything about steroids did I? And I was talking about the Fox News morons anyway, not you. No offence but we've gone way past the point of there being any point in engaging with you on any of this stuff.

The right wing who call everyone who disagrees with them snowflakes once again doing Olympic-level mental gymnastics and Covid fan-fiction because wearing a mask and putting a needle in their arm for half a second is far too scary for them.

The amount of shit the American right wing has said about Fauci, because he's taken the virus seriously and advocated that people alter the way they live (temporarily) so that the US can get over the virus, is absurd. A lot of people have made up their minds: they don't care how many people die or if they get sick/get others sick - they just want their lives to be like they were before the pandemic whatever the cost. So they are willing to vilify those that are telling them what they don't want to hear. I think EVERYONE wants their lives to be what they were pre-pandemic... but most people don't want to get sick or get other people sick. The way people can actually achieve freedom from the virus is if we've got enough people vaccinated worldwide. It's likely that COVID is here to stay - it'll be endemic and probably impossible to fully eradicate.

Tucker Carlson is an absolute moron and shouldn't be listened to by anybody. And Rand Paul isn't stupid, but he's a very dishonest man that is just using the virus and the reactions to things like being told to wear masks or get vaccinated to score political points. Rand Paul's most upset by the world being impacted by COVID but doesn't want anyone to do anything that would mitigate the risk of COVID or move society on. And despite being vaccinated is a very loud voice against people being vaccinated. He's a hypocritical arsehole playing up "freedom" for political points while offering no way forward to provide society with actual freedom from the virus.

Science presents itself as a know all yet it does not know all just the things it is funded to study. Then if they find a reaction or correlation they ask for volunteers who are all meant to be in good health to test their hypothesis. Now the companies pushing this will have shareholders and so publicity is carefully controlled so as to not affect the share price....... and then you have MPs receiving money for lobbying. I like history and remember Alexander the Great from northern Greece being in modern day Pakistan and his army revolting saying after 12 years on campaign they wanted to return home. Many of these were in their 60's and 70's. No vaccinations, drinking dubious stream and river water with just one meal a day.

This place (and t’internet in general) can get tiring, imagine he’s just got his hands full with his family

Who cares, it's still the same crap.

Saw him liking some fb posts just a few days ago, so he's alive at least.

What a hero. He's saved several lives for sure.

I do love to hide behind this particular corner at work and scare one of my buddies

Turns out the video is just a fucking song with mention of articles of sportsmen/women suffering from cardiac or heart issues. No mention of Covid-19. You're a lost cause. Lost in your own head. Literally no help for you. You don't help anyone when posting shite like that. What do you want people to do? Watch that and go batshit crazy like other deluded anti-vaxxers? You're a fucking joke. Sorry.

I was a brilliant runner in school and I always represented the school at various cross country events. We also used to do a competition each term which was called the run walk test, basically it was the 1500 meters around the local streets near the school. It was called the run walk because you could walk if you were a lazy or race if you were that way inclined. Obviously all the lads would get incredibly competitive in the build up each term but it then became even more competitive as everyone wanted to beat me because I'd win it every time. I'd basically perfected the distance and I had a point I'd kick on every time and create a gap they just couldn't close. Every now and then I'd change the kicking point to confuse them but throughout the whole five years I never lost. Mr Wright then approached me to take up the distance in the local school games which I also went on to win as well. At this point I was asked to come down to Sale Harriers to take it up properly but I just wasn't interested and told them I just wanted to play football at weekends. I can remember Mr Wright pushing and pushing me to go but I just basically had no interest at all. I recently bumped into him in our local Supermarket and he told me at the time he was desperate for me to go down to train as he had never seen a kid take to a certain distance as well as I had done the 1500m and I'd been the talk of all the Schools PE teachers at the local school games.

I emailed IgnisExcubitor a while ago, but never got an answer either

This is still rumbling on. They're now evacuating an entire street in Liverpool at one of the properties raided in connection to the explosion. Police have been arriving for hours including negotiators.

Car bomb blast in Liverpool. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59285235