Spike Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Just for the record too, here's the real GDP and nominal GDP of each state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP#:~:text=The three U.S. states with the highest GDPs,billion)%2C Wyoming (%2450.1 billion)%2C and Alaska (%2467.1 billion). It's funny because while Vermont is dead last in GDP it's third in average personal net worth... https://www.empower.com/the-currency/money/what-is-the-average-net-worth-by-state Edited June 28 by Spike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 6 minutes ago, Spike said: It's funny because while Vermont is dead last in GDP it's third in average personal net worth... https://www.empower.com/the-currency/money/what-is-the-average-net-worth-by-state Kind of wild too, especially when New York's 6 below them and 1 in 10 people in NYC is a millionaire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Kind of wild too, especially when New York's 6 below them and 1 in 10 people in NYC is a millionaire. I think state of NY has a lot of post-industrial decay. I don't know if there is a lot going on in Buffalo or Rochester. Also NYC has a lot of poverty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 3 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said: From reading all the usual suspects It appears like Trump said he could end that conflict, there just appears to be a political split on continuing the war or a ceasefire. Trump also said he would build a wall at the Mexican border and let Mexico pay the the cost of it. So much to the believability of what Trump says. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 9 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: Trump also said he would build a wall at the Mexican border and let Mexico pay the the cost of it. So much to the believability of what Trump says. He also said he knows the McDonald’s menu better than anyone which is obviously not true with the hamburglar knocking around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 On 29/06/2024 at 03:32, Rucksackfranzose said: Trump also said he would build a wall at the Mexican border and let Mexico pay the the cost of it. So much to the believability of what Trump says. On 29/06/2024 at 03:41, Spike said: He also said he knows the McDonald’s menu better than anyone which is obviously not true with the hamburglar knocking around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 So he like comes with instructions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bluebird Hewitt Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 On 28/06/2024 at 23:18, Spike said: It's funny because while Vermont is dead last in GDP it's third in average personal net worth... https://www.empower.com/the-currency/money/what-is-the-average-net-worth-by-state Looking at that, I assume Nevada is 11th, as that's a hell of a difference compared to the majority around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 4 hours ago, Bluebird Hewitt said: Looking at that, I assume Nevada is 11th, as that's a hell of a difference compared to the majority around them. How was this presley song called the dead Kennedys covered? Ah yes: Viva Las Vegas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted July 2 Subscriber Share Posted July 2 I just have to take a step back here and just ask the question how the fuck did America get to this point. You have one candidate who's clearly too old and cant be coherent enough for a debate and you have the other who nearly everything out of his mouth is a lie and bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 20 minutes ago, Viva la FCB said: I just have to take a step back here and just ask the question how the fuck did America get to this point. You have one candidate who's clearly too old and cant be coherent enough for a debate and you have the other who nearly everything out of his mouth is a lie and bullshit. The latest supreme court decision is a head scratcher too. A president can now commit crimes as long as they're part of "official acts" but one president says they're not going to use that power and the presidential hopeful is gloating about how he will abuse this power. It's a strange decision because it effectively clears Nixon of all wrongdoing decades after he stepped down because he was going to be impeached for being a criminal. Surveys show it's another unpopular decision with most people, left or right - so it's interesting because I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the US constitution for America to reign in it's supreme court. But they've clearly got to do something about a group of unelected people who hold their position for life that routinely re-write laws of the US on a whim, even when they're deeply unpopular laws with the US electorate. Weird situation where the biggest threat to democracy and rule of law in the US are the people entrusted with protecting democracy and rule of law. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 6 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: The latest supreme court decision is a head scratcher too. A president can now commit crimes as long as they're part of "official acts" but one president says they're not going to use that power and the presidential hopeful is gloating about how he will abuse this power. It's a strange decision because it effectively clears Nixon of all wrongdoing decades after he stepped down because he was going to be impeached for being a criminal. Surveys show it's another unpopular decision with most people, left or right - so it's interesting because I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the US constitution for America to reign in it's supreme court. But they've clearly got to do something about a group of unelected people who hold their position for life that routinely re-write laws of the US on a whim, even when they're deeply unpopular laws with the US electorate. Weird situation where the biggest threat to democracy and rule of law in the US are the people entrusted with protecting democracy and rule of law. The USA is the cusp of doing something great again, alright. I'm literally speechless on this 'official acts' bullshit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harry Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Joe Biden should never have decided to run again. He should have picked a more popular VP and spent 4 years setting up the next democratic administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 03/07/2024 at 03:07, Dr. Gonzo said: The latest supreme court decision is a head scratcher too. A president can now commit crimes as long as they're part of "official acts" but one president says they're not going to use that power and the presidential hopeful is gloating about how he will abuse this power. It's a strange decision because it effectively clears Nixon of all wrongdoing decades after he stepped down because he was going to be impeached for being a criminal. Surveys show it's another unpopular decision with most people, left or right - so it's interesting because I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the US constitution for America to reign in it's supreme court. But they've clearly got to do something about a group of unelected people who hold their position for life that routinely re-write laws of the US on a whim, even when they're deeply unpopular laws with the US electorate. Weird situation where the biggest threat to democracy and rule of law in the US are the people entrusted with protecting democracy and rule of law. The worst thing about it is the court have been vague about what official acts are, and which ones might not be on. And any specific case will likely end up referred to them and able to decide for a given president. You can bet that ruling would show partisan bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnersaurus Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 @Dr. Gonzo Do you still live in the states? Do you think it would be better for the Democrats to get rid of Biden or stick with him? Obviously if they stick with him he probably won't be involved in much decision making the people around him will do it and he'll just be the face of the party. But will they have a better chance of winning the election if they get someone else in or will it dent their chances more? Obviously neither are ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 hours ago, Gunnersaurus said: @Dr. Gonzo Do you still live in the states? Do you think it would be better for the Democrats to get rid of Biden or stick with him? Obviously if they stick with him he probably won't be involved in much decision making the people around him will do it and he'll just be the face of the party. But will they have a better chance of winning the election if they get someone else in or will it dent their chances more? Obviously neither are ideal. You have to understand that the democrats are a party content with being in opposition. All they do is meet comprises to the republican when in power, that’s how and why Roe v Wade can be repealed with no fight back, that’s how the rights of American’s erode in plain view. It doesn’t matter who they put forth because ultimately they benefit no matter what, the benefit from being in power and they benefit from republican legislation that benefits the rich elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 21 hours ago, Gunnersaurus said: @Dr. Gonzo Do you still live in the states? Do you think it would be better for the Democrats to get rid of Biden or stick with him? Obviously if they stick with him he probably won't be involved in much decision making the people around him will do it and he'll just be the face of the party. But will they have a better chance of winning the election if they get someone else in or will it dent their chances more? Obviously neither are ideal. That is already the case. No way he is largely running the things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnersaurus Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 1 minute ago, Beelzebub said: That is already the case. No way he is largely running the things. Yeah I know. And it won't make much difference if he's the leader or not. But he is still the face of the Democrats. But would it increase their chances to win the election if they got rid of him or give them less chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Just now, Gunnersaurus said: Yeah I know. And it won't make much difference if he's the leader or not. But he is still the face of the Democrats. But would it increase their chances to win the election if they got rid of him or give them less chance? I would replace him. There are talks of him likely to lose to Trump of all people that is enough to get rid of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcanuck Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 There is no doubt Biden has neurological and cognitive issues and is not fit enough to be President. But he had early onset of dementia in 2020 when he ran against Trump the first time. That's why he campaigned from his basement. His family, his staff , the leadership of the Democratic party along with the Main Stream Media have hid Biden's medical problems from the American public for years. Biden has only ever been President in name only, God knows who has actually been running things? Will he be replaced? Who knows. It's practically impossible to replace him if he refuses to go. This morning Biden called into MSNBC’s "Morning Joe" and defiantly proclaimed that he would be staying in the 2024 presidential race. "The bottom line here is that we’re not going anywhere. I am not going anywhere," Biden said. If the delegates to the Democratic Convention in August turn against Biden and refuse to vote for his nomination, thereby throwing it into an open convention they could replace him . That won't be easy, these delegates have all been hand picked by the Biden camp, they are Biden loyalists. In most States when a State holds a primary and a candidate wins delegates they present a list of people they have personally chosen to be delegates. The candidate knows these people, he's worked with them before and likely is owned favours by these delegates. It will take a lot to stab him in the back at the convention. The major problem with replacing Biden is Kamala Harris, she's polling worse than Biden as are all possible replacements other than Michelle Obama. If they make a change and its not Harris, they run into a problem with the campaign funds they have raised , because the money was raised for the Biden/Harris reelection bid and can't be easily transfer to another set of candidates. Also dumping a Black Woman and replacing her with a White Man or even a White Female will cause a bloodbath among Democrats. It would certainly lose them the election, which looks like they are going to lose anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 On 07/07/2024 at 09:28, Gunnersaurus said: @Dr. Gonzo Do you still live in the states? Do you think it would be better for the Democrats to get rid of Biden or stick with him? Obviously if they stick with him he probably won't be involved in much decision making the people around him will do it and he'll just be the face of the party. But will they have a better chance of winning the election if they get someone else in or will it dent their chances more? Obviously neither are ideal. Yes. No idea, tbh. Democrats are generally slow moving, so I'm not sure I'd trust them to pick a new face of the party in time to get them ready to compete with Trump. I already think he, and honestly Trump as well, won't be involved much in the decision making and people around him will just do it. I think that's the case of most US presidencies tbh - especially in cases like Reagan, Trump, and Biden... maybe even the second Bush as well because it was rumoured his VP was running the show. But those others are old and were just used as a vessel for their advisors to push the country in the way they wanted. Americans are just faced with a bad choice. Neither candidate is fit to lead the supposed leader of the free world. They're voting more for general concepts than actual ideology, for a political party, or any particular candidate imo. It's a bizarre election. I'm glad I'm not a citizen because I wouldn't want to vote for either Biden or Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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