Dave Posted February 28, 2021 Posted February 28, 2021 Two years ago people blamed lack of technology and crowd intimidation as the main reasons to explain the majority of frequent horrific decisions. Amazing to think with technology assisting them and no crowd noise they've somehow managed to get worse.
Dave Posted February 28, 2021 Posted February 28, 2021 On 28/02/2021 at 07:37, DeadLinesman said: Imagine thinking it was the technology and cameras that were the problem and not the actual human beings unable to utilise them . It’s like blaming a knife for killing someone in surgery instead of the surgeon who was incapable of completing the procedure. Maybe though I’ll be ‘right in the head one day’ or ‘engage my brain’ so I can have the same opinion as others. We have said this from day one and haven't got mocked. There's a reason why people don't use our views on VAR as a stick to beat us with. The concept is fine, it's not ruining the game and anyone who can't see that is quite honestly not right in the head. To be fair most people have now realised its not detrimental to the game and it's the people using it that are the problem. There is still the odd numbnut though that thinks it's a bad thing. They will come round eventually though, it just takes some longer than others to engage.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted February 28, 2021 Subscriber Posted February 28, 2021 Having video replays instead of not having video replays categorically can not have a negative impact on officiating. It's the people using it, it just is. VAR hasn't improved the match day experience or the integrity of decision making but it has at least removed any doubt over the real problems with refereeing in English football - the rules are too complicated, there are too many sub-clauses to each rule attempting to remove grey areas but only introducing more, and the referees in the Premier League need to get better at using the technology. I also think the lack of communication from officials, either by being mic'd up or answering a few questions after the game, would make a huge difference to how people respond to them. Getting rid of VAR now simply isn't going to happen and wouldn't help. All you'd get is people crying even louder than they currently do about decisions that don't get overturned which should and would have been with the advantage of video replays.
LFCMadLad Posted February 28, 2021 Posted February 28, 2021 6 hours ago, DeadLinesman said: Imagine thinking it was the technology and cameras that were the problem and not the actual human beings unable to utilise them . It’s like blaming a knife for killing someone in surgery instead of the surgeon who was incapable of completing the procedure. Maybe though I’ll be ‘right in the head one day’ or ‘engage my brain’ so I can have the same opinion as others. The thing is mate, VAR, the cameras, the technology as you mentioned, will always be operated by humans. Therefore, it will never work. The sooner the few people who actually like VAR realise that the better.
DeadLinesman Posted February 28, 2021 Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, LFCMadLad said: The thing is mate, VAR, the cameras, the technology as you mentioned, will always be operated by humans. Therefore, it will never work. The sooner the few people who actually like VAR realise that the better. Jesus mate. Do you know how far humanity would have come with that thinking? Humans are flawed by nature. It’s upto us to make the best of the equipment that we’re given.
Administrator Stan Posted June 25, 2022 Author Administrator Posted June 25, 2022 He surely has to be better than Riley?! About time Riley was fucked off to be fair in any case.
Dave Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Stan said: He surely has to be better than Riley?! About time Riley was fucked off to be fair in any case. The problem with Howard Webb in his later years, like Clattenberg, was that the fame got to his head. Once teams figured out he'd let teams get away with murder in the middle of the pitch but he'd be willing to give decisions in the final third they had an advantage. Southampton in particular under Pochettino and us under Pulis were very good at it.
Dr. Gonzo Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: The problem with Howard Webb in his later years, like Clattenberg, was that the fame got to his head. Once teams figured out he'd let teams get away with murder in the middle of the pitch but he'd be willing to give decisions in the final third they had an advantage. Southampton in particular under Pochettino and us under Pulis were very good at it. I think he was still always a better ref than Riley, so I’m okay with him taking Riley’s job.
Dr. Gonzo Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 18 hours ago, DeadLinesman said: Webb you say……. I’m just happy Riley is leaving. Shame he’s staying on for a year to help Webb with a transition… … but I’m still hopeful after that year transitional period that he’ll get what’s coming to him and he’ll get shot into the sun
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted June 27, 2022 Subscriber Posted June 27, 2022 I wish I could be more optimistic about what this means for future officiating but I'm done with all that to be honest.
Administrator Stan Posted February 17, 2023 Author Administrator Posted February 17, 2023 PGMOL really taking some accountability! Lee Mason given his marching orders...
Rick Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 13 hours ago, Cicero said: Yet Anthony Taylor continues to officiate. Let’s be honest, they could all go based on performance. Not one good referee in the league.
OrangeKhrush Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 Lee Mason.....sounds familiar....oh yes he was the guy that ruled out a perfectly legit goal against Palace.
Administrator Stan Posted April 10, 2023 Author Administrator Posted April 10, 2023 The assistant ref in the Robertson incident has been 'stood down' and won't officiate for the foreseeable.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65232115
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 I don’t see what there is to investigate. Just sack him and move on
Honey Honey Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 I'm surprised it has taken this long for an official to see red mist. Then again the ones that have probably got found out at the beginning of their career.
DeadLinesman Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 19 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I don’t see what there is to investigate. Just sack him and move on Agreed. Robertson should never play again.
Storts Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 19 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I don’t see what there is to investigate. Just sack him and move on Hope you agree Robertson should face a lengthy ban also for grabbing an official.
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Storts said: Hope you agree Robertson should face a lengthy ban also for grabbing an official. For doing what most players do talking to a ref? He touched his arm ffs. If you’re an official you can’t lash out at players even if you’re rightfully annoyed. In any other job you’d get sacked. But sure ban, him he’s been shit - no skin our backs. But sack the linesman and don’t ever give us that cunt Tierny as a ref ever again either
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, DeadLinesman said: Agreed. Robertson should never play again. But never United’s precious little rat boy, right?
Storts Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: For doing what most players do talking to a ref? He touched his arm ffs. If you’re an official you can’t lash out at players even if you’re rightfully annoyed. In any other job you’d get sacked. But sure ban, him he’s been shit - no skin our backs. But sack the linesman and don’t ever give us that cunt Tierny as a ref ever again either Marched over to him and grabbed his arm. Definitely provocation so if the linesman is banned for responding, Robertson should face a similar charge. Particularly with the Mitrovic debacle recently. Robertson is without doubt one of the most unsavoury characters in the league though so it’s not really a surprise.
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Storts said: Marched over to him and grabbed his arm. Definitely provocation so if the linesman is banned for responding, Robertson should face a similar charge. Particularly with the Mitrovic debacle recently. Robertson is without doubt one of the most unsavoury characters in the league though so it’s not really a surprise. Well if you think that Robertson’s lightly grabbing the refs arm to get his attention is worthy of an elbow to the face… bit weird I suppose.
DeadLinesman Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 On 11/04/2023 at 10:17, Dr. Gonzo said: But never United’s precious little rat boy, right? Bruno is a Saint. How dare you.
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