Moderator Tommy Posted May 30, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2017 I'd rather have a coach who speaks German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, Tsubasa said: I'd rather have a coach who speaks German. Like Guardiola? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, True Bender said: He got sacked, dude. My bad, I was positive that he wanted to spend time on his triathlons and other hobbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted May 30, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, True Bender said: Like Guardiola? "Eine super super super Trainer!". Here are the odds for Tuchel's replacement: Quote - Trainer1,2 - Lucien Favre3 - Peter Stoger6 - Julian Nagelsmann10 - Roger Schmidt10 - Markus Weinzierl10 - Ralph Hasenhüttl10 - Peter Bosz18 - Joachim Low18 - Jurgen Klinsmann20 - Luis Enrique22 - Roberto Mancini25 - Niko Kovac25 - Claudio Ranieri33 - Manuel Pellegrini33 - Paul Lambert33 - Alex Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted May 30, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted May 30, 2017 Joachim Löw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, nudge said: Joachim Löw I had to laugh at that one as well. I can't remember a summer when there were this few options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Quote [...] Dass sich die Wege von Borussia Dortmund und Thomas Tuchel dennoch trennen, stößt bei Teilen unserer Fans auf Kritik und Unverständnis. Das können wir, die Verantwortlichen in der Geschäftsführung und in den Gremien von Verein und KGaA, nachvollziehen. Der BVB hatte mit Thomas Tuchel zwei erfolgreiche Jahre, in denen die sportlichen Ziele erreicht wurden. Allerdings haben wir – Michael Zorc als Sportdirektor und ich – uns in dieser Zeit in der Zusammenarbeit mit dem Trainerteam auch aufgerieben. Es geht bei der Wahrnehmung von Führungsverantwortung, und da unterscheidet sich Borussia Dortmund letztlich keineswegs von jedem anderen Sportverein oder Unternehmen, nicht ausschließlich um das Ergebnis. Es geht immer auch um grundlegende Werte wie Vertrauen, Respekt, Team- und Kommunikationsfähigkeit, um Authentizität und Identifikation. Es geht um Verlässlichkeit und Loyalität. Wir haben in der gegenwärtigen personellen Konstellation leider keine Grundlage mehr für eine auf Vertrauen ausgelegte und perspektivisch erfolgreiche Zusammenarbeit gesehen. Deshalb haben wir uns nach intensiven Gesprächen und vielen Diskussionen letztlich zu der Maßnahme entschlossen, die Zusammenarbeit mit dem Trainerteam nicht über das Ende der Saison 2016/17 hinaus fortzusetzen. Diese gemeinsame Entscheidung wird von allen Gremien innerhalb des Vereins und der KGaA einstimmig getragen. Ich bitte um Verständnis dafür, dass wir weder heute noch in Zukunft genaue Erklärungen abgeben können und werden. Vertrauensschutz ist seit mehr als einem Jahrzehnt elementarer Bestandteil unserer Führungskultur. Mir ist wichtig, deutlich zu machen, dass es bei der Entscheidung nicht um die Frage ging, ob man ein Bier miteinander trinken oder Skat miteinander spielen kann. Wenn wir die Dinge derart banalisieren würden, wären wir verantwortungslose und schlechte Entscheider. Ich bin auch durchaus nicht der Ansicht, dass Klubverantwortliche und Trainer grundsätzlich immer dicke Freunde sein müssen. Das sehr spezielle Verhältnis, das wir, insbesondere Michael Zorc und ich, zu Jürgen Klopp hatten, war nie der Maßstab für die Zusammenarbeit mit Thomas Tuchel und wird nicht der Maßstab bei künftigen BVB-Trainern sein. Noch eines möchte ich versichern: Seit ich in verantwortlichen Positionen für Borussia Dortmund tätig bin, habe ich das Wohl des BVB immer über alles andere gestellt. Das gilt gleichermaßen für Michael Zorc, für Thomas Treß und für unseren Präsidenten Dr. Reinhard Rauball sowie für die Mitglieder unserer Gremien. Borussia Dortmund hat aus den Fehlern, die 2004/05 um ein Haar zur Insolvenz geführt hätten, gelernt. Wir alle analysieren unser Handeln selbstkritisch, niemand nimmt sich wichtiger als den Verein, niemand stellt persönliche Eitelkeiten über die Interessen von Borussia Dortmund. Mit bedingungsloser Unterstützung habt Ihr, liebe Mitglieder und Fans von Borussia Dortmund, uns in den vergangenen Monaten durch schwierige Phasen getragen. Dafür noch einmal herzlichen Dank. Ich möchte Euch abschließend bitten, Michael Zorc und mir sowie allen anderen verantwortlich handelnden Personen bei Borussia Dortmund auch weiterhin volles Vertrauen zu schenken – so, wie es in den zurückliegenden Jahren stets der Fall war. Euer Aki Watzke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted May 30, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted May 30, 2017 That was swift to say the least but that replacement list wouldnt fill me with confidence. Who's your guy's first choice? also what does that say ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Watzke concedes that Tuchel accomplished his goals, but Watzke and the rest of the gang can't trust Tuchel anymore, that's why Tuchel has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Reading about this incident right now. Seems player power became an issue, nothing worse when the players think they pick the starting XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Knew this was coming long back, I read a post on FB a month or two ago about his fallings with the team and also the board. Was wishing he replaces Wenger at Arsenal since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Wenger in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Tsubasa said: "Eine super super super Trainer!". Here are the odds for Tuchel's replacement: Quote - Trainer1,2 - Lucien Favre3 - Peter Stoger6 - Julian Nagelsmann10 - Roger Schmidt10 - Markus Weinzierl10 - Ralph Hasenhüttl10 - Peter Bosz18 - Joachim Low18 - Jurgen Klinsmann20 - Luis Enrique22 - Roberto Mancini25 - Niko Kovac25 - Claudio Ranieri33 - Manuel Pellegrini33 - Paul Lambert33 - Alex Neil Sad not to see Jose on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Tsubasa said: "Eine super super super Trainer!". Here are the odds for Tuchel's replacement: Quote - Trainer1,2 - Lucien Favre3 - Peter Stoger6 - Julian Nagelsmann10 - Roger Schmidt10 - Markus Weinzierl10 - Ralph Hasenhüttl10 - Peter Bosz18 - Joachim Low18 - Jurgen Klinsmann20 - Luis Enrique22 - Roberto Mancini25 - Niko Kovac25 - Claudio Ranieri33 - Manuel Pellegrini33 - Paul Lambert33 - Alex Neil Not him, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 To be fair, he'd bring great character to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted May 30, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, Spike said: Reading about this incident right now. Seems player power became an issue, nothing worse when the players think they pick the starting XI. Well, they also want to hold talks with Aubameyang this week. Maybe Tuchel's sacking has to do with that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I would take him to replace Hughes... Tuchel had it tough but he was a decent manager in my opinion. It's just impossible to expect a title or a close race when you have to go up against Bayern Munich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted May 30, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dickie said: It's just impossible to expect a title or a close race when you have to go up against Bayern Munich. Again, they didn't let him go for that. It was interpersonal reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Tsubasa said: Again, they didn't let him go for that. It was interpersonal reasons. Oh no no no I knew that, it's just how some of the fans on Facebook made it feel like. I was perusing around on there to see what some people were thinking. Not that I didn't trust you when you said that but sometimes I like to see what the simple minded folk think lol, they always flood onto Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted May 31, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2017 So Favre is not available according to Nice. Paulo Sousa seems to be the most likely candidate now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Tsubasa said: So Favre is not available according to Nice. Paulo Sousa seems to be the most likely candidate now. Who doesn't speak German afaik. Let's hope our players didn't already forget Tuchel's training methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/borussia-dortmund-marco-reus-bestaetigt-meinungsverschiedenheit-mit-hans-joachim-watzke-a-1150102.html Nothing to surprising. The team was pissed about Watzke's decision to agree to play the next day without aksing Tuchel or any of the players. This backs up Tuchel at least on this specific point. However we still don't know what happened between Tuchel and Mislintat and between Tuchel and some of his players. Keep an open mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted May 31, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted May 31, 2017 I've just read the same article, and seriously didn't get what's the point of it haha? Just media "having fun", nothing else. Sommerloch, eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb_10 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 It's not like Dortmund didn't know what the Tuchel package came with when giving him the job, so I think it would've been more than worth it to try to put the problems to one side and give his project a little more time, I think it could've really bore fruits when the kids in the team got more mature and better. So where do you all go from here, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Messiesta said: It's not like Dortmund didn't know what the Tuchel package came with when giving him the job, so I think it would've been more than worth it to try to put the problems to one side and give his project a little more time, I think it could've really bore fruits when the kids in the team got more mature and better. So where do you all go from here, then? That's true. It was well known Tuchel is a difficult character when we signed him. The bomb attack was an extraordinary test and the club failed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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