Administrator Stan Posted April 17, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 17, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Brighton fans seem to think he's going to be the man to turn Brighton and Expected Goals Albion in to a top eight team. Think Leicester should be looking for better in all honesty. A loan move to West Ham may be most beneficial for all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 What benefit do we get exactly from him loaned out with 2 years left on his deal? Now is the time to sell him. Wants to be a regular starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cicero said: What benefit do we get exactly from him loaned out with 2 years left on his deal? Now is the time to sell him. Wants to be a regular starter. His value increasing at a time when the market begins to show signs of recovery from covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: His value increasing at a time when the market begins to show signs of recovery from covid. With only a year remaining on his contract as opposed to two. There will be buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, Cicero said: With only a year remaining on his contract as opposed to to two. There will be buyers. People will be willing to pay top dollar for a young English forward that can score in the Premier League regardless of how long is left on his contract. They're very hard to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: People will be willing to pay top dollar for a young English forward that can score in the Premier League regardless of how long is left on his contract. They're very hard to come by. And with 1 year remaining on his contract we lose all bargaining power on said young English forward, something Marina is notoriously known not to give up. No way we loan vs sell this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Totally agree with your post(s) @Cicero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted April 17, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted April 17, 2021 A loan suggestion is one of the most stupid things I've seen on this site in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: And with 1 year remaining on his contract we lose all bargaining power on said young English forward, something Marina is notoriously known not to give up. No way we loan vs sell this summer. Not necessarily, if he's as good as people believe there will likely be more suitors next summer once clubs begin to recover from the impact of covid increasing the likelihood of a bidding war. There's no right or wrong answer but Chelsea still potentially have a lot to gain by him going on loan and impressing elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Stan said: A loan suggestion is one of the most stupid things I've seen on this site in a long time. Yep, been terrible for Jesse Lingard's transfer value who also has a year left on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: Yep, been terrible for Jesse Lingard's transfer value who also has a year left on his contract. This. Abraham scoring 15-20 on loan at a Leicester or West Ham would make him much more valuable than he is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Except Lingard is a player that showed signs of declining prior to his move whereas Abraham is a proven goal scorer and can only get better. He’s still our top goal scorer and he barely plays. Again, no way we loan him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: Except Lingard is a player that showed signs of declining prior to his move whereas Abraham is a proven goal scorer and can only get better. He’s still our top goal scorer and he barely plays. Again, no way we loan him. Surely these are reasons why he should be loaned out to allow the market an opportunity to recover to increase his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, The Palace Fan said: Surely these are reasons why he should be loaned out to allow the market an opportunity to recover to increase his value. The same market where Watkins went for 30 million and Silva for 40. Think we’ll be fine finding suitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, Cicero said: The same market where Watkins went for 30 million and Silva for 40. Think we’ll be fine finding suitors. Many journalists and managers have commentated stating they are expecting this summer to be more flat than last summer. Again, there's no right or wrong answer, but Chelsea have a lot to gain by loaning him to another Premier League club regardless of his contract situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I mean it’s all hypothetical. If he goes on loan and looks shit, that’s no value gained letting him go on loan. If he goes out on loan and looks good, they can probably sell him at an inflated price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 He'd be perfect for the current West Ham side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I mean it’s all hypothetical. If he goes on loan and looks shit, that’s no value gained letting him go on loan. If he goes out on loan and looks good, they can probably sell him at an inflated price or goes out on loan and gets injured, now with one less year on the contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I think the problem with loaning or selling him to the hammers is strengthening a direct rival on the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I think the problem with loaning or selling him to the hammers is strengthening a direct rival on the table Or weaken them as he did last time he played for a low possession team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Spike said: or goes out on loan and gets injured, now with one less year on the contract With that attitude though you may aswell sell Mason Mount now just incase he does his ACL next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I think the problem with loaning or selling him to the hammers is strengthening a direct rival on the table I wouldn't be worried about West Ham potentially finishing above Chelsea when fans are back. I'm quite looking forward to seeing how that dynamic plays out. That said in a loan scenario he would have a clause where he can't play against Chelsea so effectively he will be there taking points off of potential title rivals. A bit like the Lukaku/Everton scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I mean it’s all hypothetical. If he goes on loan and looks shit, that’s no value gained letting him go on loan. If he goes out on loan and looks good, they can probably sell him at an inflated price Agreed. The question was: "What benefit do we get exactly from him loaned out with 2 years left on his deal?" for "a proven goal scorer and can only get better". So if he's as good as Chelsea fans perceive him to be you'll imagine it will be the latter scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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