Azeem Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Inspired by Spike's take on defensive midfielders and in general which gets discussed quite often here that whose who. Positions that are extinct but people think they exist, have evolved, are labelled to a lot of players but only a few actually are, are least or most important in today's game. All according to your opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 The Makelele role I'd say is extinct. Top/elite football clubs have their defensive midfielders more capable on the ball and involved in the build up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted August 26, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted August 26, 2021 Would the role Inzaghi played during his time be considered extinct? I can't imagine too many players just hanging around the box anymore considering how dynamic you have to be at the top of the attacking block these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Striker Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 There aren't too many traditional wingers these days. Not too many centre forwards powering home headers after a whipped in cross during open play. Strikers are more like CAM's now, with link up play, and less like centre backs playing up front. Off the top of my head Dion Dublin, Chris Sutton & Paul Warhurst 3 of the more well known CB/ST's in the early years of the Premier League. While the wingers can't just be pacy & cross the ball. They need to play through balls as clever as a CAM & score with the confidence of a striker. Hence why so many play inverted. Not many of them racing to the touchline before whipping over a thunderbolt of a cross someone just needs to get his head onto. The 1 putting crosses in is usually the full back/wingback. And the only tangible difference I can see is 1 has 2 CBs & a DM behind, while the other has 3 CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Are there any sweepers left in present day football? It seems that goalkeepers and not defenders are doing this. Baresi might have been the last iconic sweeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Fullbacks are now just box to box wide players instead of wide centrebacks/failed wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 All players are now midfielders, some slightly better with the ball, some better without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Wasn't sure where to put this and remembered this thread. Why is there an unwritten rule that you can't play an LB at RB but plenty of RBs (or right footers) cover at LB? Something I heard brought up on a show I listened to today following last night's game. I wouldn't mind trialing Tsimikas at RB for Liverpool given finding a back up to Trent is so difficult. If I'm not mistaken, Tsimikas isn't completely one footed and if you've got Henderson on the right of the midfield three it wouldn't be a huge issue if Tsimikas' tendancy was to come inside. Trent comes inside a lot anyway. Can anyone think of any examples of LBs playing RB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Wasn't sure where to put this and remembered this thread. Why is there an unwritten rule that you can't play an LB at RB but plenty of RBs (or right footers) cover at LB? Something I heard brought up on a show I listened to today following last night's game. I wouldn't mind trialing Tsimikas at RB for Liverpool given finding a back up to Trent is so difficult. If I'm not mistaken, Tsimikas isn't completely one footed and if you've got Henderson on the right of the midfield three it wouldn't be a huge issue if Tsimikas' tendancy was to come inside. Trent comes inside a lot anyway. Can anyone think of any examples of LBs playing RB? I think it doesn't happen only because most people are right footed, so some just end up on the left, but players with left footedness just nearly always end up on the left. I think it's honestly as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 I learned that attacking midfielders were known as inside forwards previously. I think it's a better way of putting it. Midfielders primary job for me is to link up between defence and attack and run back to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 18 hours ago, LFCMike said: Wasn't sure where to put this and remembered this thread. Why is there an unwritten rule that you can't play an LB at RB but plenty of RBs (or right footers) cover at LB? Something I heard brought up on a show I listened to today following last night's game. I wouldn't mind trialing Tsimikas at RB for Liverpool given finding a back up to Trent is so difficult. If I'm not mistaken, Tsimikas isn't completely one footed and if you've got Henderson on the right of the midfield three it wouldn't be a huge issue if Tsimikas' tendancy was to come inside. Trent comes inside a lot anyway. Can anyone think of any examples of LBs playing RB? The GOAT. Lahm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 Playing LB means you to have face the oppositions right side of attack, changing to RB also changes the oppositions side of attack. Left-footed players may not easily adapt to it unlike RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted October 5, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted October 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: The GOAT. Lahm. Also Felix Agu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: The GOAT. Lahm. Lahm was right predominantly right footed wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted October 5, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted October 5, 2021 19 hours ago, LFCMike said: Wasn't sure where to put this and remembered this thread. Why is there an unwritten rule that you can't play an LB at RB but plenty of RBs (or right footers) cover at LB? Something I heard brought up on a show I listened to today following last night's game. I wouldn't mind trialing Tsimikas at RB for Liverpool given finding a back up to Trent is so difficult. If I'm not mistaken, Tsimikas isn't completely one footed and if you've got Henderson on the right of the midfield three it wouldn't be a huge issue if Tsimikas' tendancy was to come inside. Trent comes inside a lot anyway. Can anyone think of any examples of LBs playing RB? Rapha Guerrero did it at the weekend when Meunier came off for Dortmund. I've seen him pop over there a few times now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 9 hours ago, LFCMike said: Lahm was right predominantly right footed wasn't he? He's a LB who played at RB, I think he was ambidextrous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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