Administrator Stan Posted January 27, 2023 Administrator Posted January 27, 2023 Just been reading about this. Absolutely heinous what those officers did to this poor lad. Stopped for drink-driving, then beaten up by 5 officers, while others looked on. This, from the stepfather, is harrowing "They had beat him to a pulp. He had bruises all over, his head was swollen like a watermelon, his neck was busting, they broke his neck. Apparently the footage to be released is over an hour long.
Cicero Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Given how these unions work I am a little worried as to why it is taking so long to release the footage.
nudge Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, Stan said: Stopped for drink-driving, then beaten up by 5 officers, while others looked on. Reckless driving, not drink-driving.
Administrator Stan Posted January 27, 2023 Administrator Posted January 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, nudge said: Reckless driving, not drink-driving. Apologies, my mistake.
nudge Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Stan said: Apologies, my mistake. Yeah, I thought alleging that he was drink-driving makes it sound worse and unsympathetic towards the victim... I did some quick googling, and apparently in Tennessee, the definition of what can be be considered "reckless driving" is pretty vague and up for interpretation of the police officers on most occasions. It can apparently vary from speeding more than a few miles over the limit, following another driver too closely, driving and texting to a fucking drag racing or doing a wheelie on a motorbike. So yeah... This whole story sounds completely mental to me. The police officers were also in unmarked cars apparently, and they weren't even traffic cops? What also struck me as weird were the two charges of aggravated kidnapping for the officers? Oh and Two Memphis Fire Department employees who were part of Nichols’ “initial patient care” were also fired. Either way, while it's quite well established that careers at law enforcement often attracts psychopaths, the US cop "culture" really takes the cake when it comes to that. There were apparently at least 1176 people killed by the police in the US last year, that's almost 100 a month That's more than police in most other countries kill in years...
Administrator Stan Posted January 27, 2023 Administrator Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, nudge said: Yeah, I thought alleging that he was drink-driving makes it sound worse and unsympathetic towards the victim... I did some quick googling, and apparently in Tennessee, the definition of what can be be considered "reckless driving" is pretty vague and up for interpretation of the police officers on most occasions. It can apparently vary from speeding more than a few miles over the limit, following another driver too closely, driving and texting to a fucking drag racing or doing a wheelie on a motorbike. So yeah... This whole story sounds completely mental to me. The police officers were also in unmarked cars apparently, and they weren't even traffic cops? What also struck me as weird were the two charges of aggravated kidnapping for the officers? Oh and Two Memphis Fire Department employees who were part of Nichols’ “initial patient care” were also fired. Either way, while it's quite well established that careers at law enforcement often attracts psychopaths, the US cop "culture" really takes the cake when it comes to that. There were apparently at least 1176 people killed by the police in the US last year, that's almost 100 a month That's more than police in most other countries kill in years... It really is indicative of how fucked up it is over there. The staggering and destructive abuse of power across the board in US policing is astonishing.
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted January 27, 2023 Subscriber Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, nudge said: This whole story sounds completely mental to me. The police officers were also in unmarked cars apparently, and they weren't even traffic cops? What also struck me as weird were the two charges of aggravated kidnapping for the officers? Oh and Two Memphis Fire Department employees who were part of Nichols’ “initial patient care” were also fired. It sounds pretty weird to me and if something else happened and was trying to be swept under the carpet, unmarked police cars, not traffic cops, aggravated kidnapping? as you said nudge, sounds mental.
Dr. Gonzo Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 I think it's a bit telling how quickly black cops get charged compared to white cops. Not that I'm complaining, these guys deserve to be charged and to face justice for killing this guy. But it's interesting how quick this city was to: 1.) fire these police, when that's typically not what happens when police do something like this in the US; 2.) how quick they were to conclude that charges were necessary after a brief investigation. I would hope that's not due to the systemic racism of the US and more to do with police reforms being vital and necessary in America.
Dr. Gonzo Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 The video is really bad. And also involves more than just 5 cops. Hope they all go to prison for a very long time. Scumbags
MUFC Posted January 28, 2023 Author Posted January 28, 2023 Articles saying he never resisted arrest?
nudge Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 6 hours ago, MUFC said: Articles saying he never resisted arrest? He didn't. Judging from the released videos, he was no threat at any point whatsoever. They literally dragged him out of the car without any explanation, pushed him to the ground aggressively while threatening to break his arms, he was complying, then they tasered and pepper sprayed him, but being the fucking imbeciles like they are, they also pepper sprayed each other and got even angrier. He then panicked and ran, they caught up with him and proceeded to take turns punching his face, kicking his head, and striking him with the baton all while he was held restrained by other cops. One of the cops who accidentally sprayed himself went away for a minute, then returned with his baton out and literally said "I'm going to baton the shit out of you" and then proceeded to strike him while the others were holding him up. Then they left him cuffed and propped against the car where he looked like he was unresponsive/barely conscious already, and then they were just casually chatting among themselves while he was denied medical aid for 16 minutes. Fucking psychopaths on a power trip, it's a straight out execution. I hope his family gets justice.
Cicero Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 Wouldn’t be surprised if the poor bloke thought they weren’t real cops with the way they were behaving.
Administrator Stan Posted January 28, 2023 Administrator Posted January 28, 2023 The more I think about it, the more I struggle to fathom just what went through those police officers' minds. What was their motive? What possessed them?! Even the ones that turned up with medical equipment before the ambulance arrived. Just watching a man sloped up against a car, and even when Tyre collapses to his side, they still don't act. Yeah, fine, arrest someone. But where's the humanity of it all? It made me feel physically nauseous seeing some of the footage. Sick to the pit of my stomach.
Dr. Gonzo Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 I don’t support the death penalty but I don’t see what the point of locking these people up is tbh. They’re not going to get “rehabilitated”
Dr. Gonzo Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, nudge said: All five released on bail now too. Wow
Administrator Stan Posted January 28, 2023 Administrator Posted January 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Wow Isn't the 'bail' system different in US? As in, bonds are posted and you get to leave if that money is paid. Whereas UK you can be given bail only if you're not deemed to be a flight risk or a 'danger' or 'threat' to the public.
6666 Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 People that easily get pissed off probably shouldn't be police officers. Or soldiers while we're at it. That should at least be obvious. If he fought back in any way they'd just kill him and say it was justified. That's how much power the police have in situations and also why they should be punished more harshly than murderers that aren't officers/soldiers.
Dr. Gonzo Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 50 minutes ago, Stan said: Isn't the 'bail' system different in US? As in, bonds are posted and you get to leave if that money is paid. Whereas UK you can be given bail only if you're not deemed to be a flight risk or a 'danger' or 'threat' to the public. I dunno, I assumed some crimes don’t qualify for bail but I’m not sure.
MUFC Posted January 28, 2023 Author Posted January 28, 2023 Anyone feel like they planned to hurt somebody that night?
Moderator Tommy Posted January 29, 2023 Moderator Posted January 29, 2023 Everything I've read and hear about this is just awful and deeply saddening.
DeadLinesman Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 I’m glad that the internet isn’t concentrating on the race of the officers and instead turning this into an issue of the officers being indoctrinated by white supremacy in the police department they work for. Honestly, fuck social media.
OrangeKhrush Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 the cops deserve to face the law no doubt about it, the worst thing about this is how the media (CNN) again used this as an opportunity to espouse anti white racism with general rhetoric associated with racists. there is a culture of bad policing and decaying American systems driven through the prism of culture war and political ineptitude, but the softballs of trying to tee this up as white peoples fault is endemic of the true racism that is espoused today. www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ white people shot and killed by cops has won more titles than Man City. the system is a problem not white people.
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