Administrator Stan 18,389 Posted July 13, 2023 Administrator Share Posted July 13, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 298 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 i quite like Johnson, but he is very raw, I would be much happier with villa getting him over Diaby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,191 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Every time I watched Forest, he seemed like their absolute best player. I suspect they'll miss him if they let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,404 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 If Man City do make a bid for Olise, then we should be doing all we can to make this a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,207 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 We've been after Johnson for a good while now, we're after explosive forwards and have a number of them in Mbeumo, Schade, Lewis-Potter and Wissa. Johnson would fit in perfectly, just depends how much money we're willing to spend on him. If you can get him to 20+ goals in the league then you have an £80m-£100m player there, I wonder if we get a deal done at around £40m-£45m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted July 29, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted July 29, 2023 Why would Johnson leave Forest for Brentford? Makes no sense to me. Sideways move at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 1,179 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 13 hours ago, Storts said: Why would Johnson leave Forest for Brentford? Makes no sense to me. Sideways move at best It's not even a sideways move is a backward move as long as they are in the same league. Would make zero sense to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,404 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Storts said: Why would Johnson leave Forest for Brentford? Makes no sense to me. Sideways move at best Since Brentford were promoted to The Championship, they've finished higher than Nottingham Forest 8 times out of a possible 9. It's certainly a step forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Striker 134 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Well, it's been Villa & Brentford linked this summer. If Forest finish comfortable mid table, and he's a star feature, next summer it could be clubs going for multiple trophies every season. Any Forest to Brentford move is all going to be on individual player variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,207 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Storts said: Why would Johnson leave Forest for Brentford? Makes no sense to me. Sideways move at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,207 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Devil said: It's not even a sideways move is a backward move as long as they are in the same league. Would make zero sense to me. Why would you want to join a club with a better manager, better players, better coaching staff, better director of football, better owner and a better chance of increasing your goal/assist contributions in a single season that can then give you better options for a transfer to Champions League clubs. Edited July 30, 2023 by Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 1,179 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Danny said: Why would you want to join a club with a better manager, better players, better coaching staff, better director of football, better owner and a better chance of increasing your goal/assist contributions in a single season that can then give you better options for a transfer to Champions League clubs. You've had a couple of good seasons in the Premier League, let's not get ahead of yourself. The reason being Forest are a double winning European Cup winning club that dwarf tiny Brentford. Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton, all well run football clubs but that doesn't mean they are big. I'd rather play for Forest whilst they are Premier League outfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,389 Posted July 30, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Devil said: You've had a couple of good seasons in the Premier League, let's not get ahead of yourself. But when you look at the clubs now, @Dannyisn't wrong with what he lists. Brentford are extremely well-run. Historically of course Forest hold that higher rank, but if you're talking history, it probably should be taken into account that Forest were also out of the PL for 20+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 1,179 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Just now, Stan said: But when you look at the clubs now, @Dannyisn't wrong with what he lists. Brentford are extremely well-run. Historically of course Forest hold that higher rank, but if you're talking history, it probably should be taken into account that Forest were also out of the PL for 20+ years. The same 20 years Brentford have hardly been relevant. I've nothing against Brentford or any of these tiny clubs that are well run come up and do really well. They've been fantastic as we know only too well, they destroyed us. All I'm saying if I'm a player and I have a choice between the two I'd be looking at Forest and thinking I'd rather see where these are going than Brentford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,389 Posted July 30, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted July 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Devil said: The same 20 years Brentford have hardly been relevant. I've nothing against Brentford or any of these tiny clubs that are well run come up and do really well. They've been fantastic as we know only too well, they destroyed us. All I'm saying if I'm a player and I have a choice between the two I'd be looking at Forest and thinking I'd rather see where these are going than Brentford. True, but if you're a player now Brentford are a more attractive proposition than Forest. Brentford have far more about them than Forest. At least with Brentford you're not up against 50 players for a first team spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 1,179 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Stan said: True, but if you're a player now Brentford are a more attractive proposition than Forest. Brentford have far more about them than Forest. At least with Brentford you're not up against 50 players for a first team spot Come on mate, you can't seriously be comparing Nottingham Forest and Brentford. Sheffield Wednesday have been out of the Premier League for a nearly the same period but you'd also say if they were a Premier League club they'd dwarf Brentford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,389 Posted July 30, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted July 30, 2023 Just now, Devil said: Come on mate, you can't seriously be comparing Nottingham Forest and Brentford. Sheffield Wednesday have been out of the Premier League for a nearly the same period but you'd also say if they were a Premier League club they'd dwarf Brentford. Yeah but that's not what we're discussing, right? If you had a choice of club to go to right now, between Forest and Brentford, I think it'd be foolish to choose the former. The latter are on an upward trajectory. The club stature might be different, but that's not the argument I thought lol Just because a club is historically bigger than another, doesn't mean they'd always be the ones to move to. Forest are bigger than Brighton - would you choose the former still, even though Brighton are in Europe, are well run, play some decent football, and are also on an upward trajectory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,207 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Devil said: You've had a couple of good seasons in the Premier League, let's not get ahead of yourself. The reason being Forest are a double winning European Cup winning club that dwarf tiny Brentford. Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton, all well run football clubs but that doesn't mean they are big. I'd rather play for Forest whilst they are Premier League outfit. Well if he wants to become a better player, play with better players at a better club then he joins us. If he doesn’t then he stays put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 3,827 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) Forest are a bigger, more prestigous club, no doubt. However, Forest are shit. They got hugely lucky to avoid the drop last season and having played and beat them in a friendly Thursday night, it only acted as a timely reminder just how much we let them off the hook. I'm quite convinced they will go down this season and there's nothing for me to suggest they will build, improve and become established in the division, especially after their scattergun approach last season. I'm pretty sure that will hinder them this season. Brentford could well have 3 or 4 more seasons just hovering anywhere from 10th to 16th but whilst I don't think they are one of the best footballing sides in the division, they are by far a better footballing than Forest. They have had a couple seasons up now, even without Toney you'd not really consider them for the drop this year, they have an identity about their play, they are physical but they do the basics very well and play smart. They are tough to beat and I'd also say some teams find goibg to their ground a bit difficult because it feels smaller but the fans feel closer to the pitch. For a team that likes to counter, Johnson would do well there I think playing in one of the front three spots. Unless he gets a solid offer from someone like a Villa (which is clearly a club on the up) I see nothing wrong with joining Brentford. As good as he is, I think there's question marks just how well he'd fit into a bigger team. Definitely still has weaknesses to his game. Edited July 31, 2023 by Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,404 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 15 hours ago, Devil said: Come on mate, you can't seriously be comparing Nottingham Forest and Brentford. Sheffield Wednesday have been out of the Premier League for a nearly the same period but you'd also say if they were a Premier League club they'd dwarf Brentford. Sheffield Wednesday are a bigger club than Crystal Palace. Barry Bannan is a legend in modern times for Sheffield Wednesday, but I imagine he'd walk bare foot over broken glass to play for us again. Modern footballers will put there own career trajectory ahead of any historic achievements made by a club. The size of a club may be a determining factor if both clubs are at a similar level with similar aspirations (ie a player has to chose between domestic trophy winning Leicester and playoff finalists Coventry when both clubs offer the same wage packet), but that situation wouldn't apply with Brentford and Forest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,389 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 1, 2023 Tottenham also interested. Sideways step at best if he moves there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 1,179 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Now that would be worth leaving your club for. Not worth moving to a club only temporarily in the top flight with a tiny stadium. Spurs is a huge step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,207 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 West Ham have bid apparently. Will be difficult to compete with them as they have European football to offer, our only hope is that our track record of developing players + our continued interest in Johnson that spans 5 transfers windows now might sway him. His dad is apparently keen he joins us instead of staying at Forest. But yeah, who knows, we have an alternative in Nicolas Gonzalez at Fiorentina who we are also trying to sign. Feel like this will run quite close to deadline day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 298 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 odd move for spurs, this is Aaron lennonesque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,389 Posted August 18, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 18, 2023 Chelsea interested Quote Chelsea’s transfer focus has been on adding attacking players and they have added Brennan Johnson to their list of targets and held initial talks with Nottingham Forest over a move for the winger. It has been a busy summer for Chelsea, whose quest to balance the books is likely to lead them to agree to sell the 18-year-old left-back Lewis Hall to Newcastle for an initial £28m, and Johnson is one of several offensive players on their shortlist. Discussions over Johnson are at an early stage. The possibility of including players as part of a deal for the versatile Wales international have been discussed with Forest, who value the 22-year-old at about £45m https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/17/chelsea-brennan-johnson-nottingham-forest-lewis-hall-newcastle As are Spurs & Brentford still Quote All of Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea and Brentford are considering a move for the young wide player, as a series of others wait to see what is next. While Brentford have the strongest interest, and can make the strongest case by guaranteeing Johnson first-team football as a main player in the team, Forest are reluctant to sell to the west London club as they seem as a rival for mid-table survival. Chelsea have recently moved onto the player after failing in a bid for Crystal Palace’s Michael Olise, since Mauricio Pochettino still wants to bolster his forward line. Tottenham have been trailing Johnson for longer, and have the recent income of the £120m sale of Harry Kane. https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/nottingham-forest-set-high-price-for-brennan-johnson-b2394741.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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