Liverpool Discussion

[DeadLinesman]

Pretty civil discussion really. Good try though. 

[DeadLinesman]

29 minutes ago, Burning Gold said:

 

Isn't it because it's not played by the rules of competitive fixtures? Can make as many subs as you want, for instance

Genuinely not sure mate.

[Stan]

14 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said:

Genuinely not sure mate.

When they play in it next year we'll see if they celebrate it or not and add it to the list if they win 

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Tbf it is actually a friendly game hut I thought the super cup was too. Only ones thst matter are leagues, European cups and fa cup. 

[DeadLinesman]

33 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Tbf it is actually a friendly game hut I thought the super cup was too. Only ones thst matter are leagues, European cups and fa cup. 

Yup. Only majorly bothered about the league and major domestic cup, along with the European Cup. Secondary competitions pad the honours out, but don’t mean much.

[LFCMadLad]

35 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said:

Yup. Only majorly bothered about the league and major domestic cup, along with the European Cup. Secondary competitions pad the honours out, but don’t mean much.

Everyone knows my feelings towards the Club World Cup tournament but to be fair you can only qualify for it by winning the Champions League which to me makes it much more relevant than a charity shield. 

United also have a CWC on their record as it goes.

[DeadLinesman]

5 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said:

Everyone knows my feelings towards the Club World Cup tournament but to be fair you can only qualify for it by winning the Champions League which to me makes it much more relevant than a charity shield. 

United also have a CWC on their record as it goes.

World Champions twice 

[LFCMadLad]

18 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said:

World Champions twice 

The standard was much lower back in the old days 

[DeadLinesman]

14 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said:

The standard was much lower back in the old days 

That’s why you have 6 European Cups 

[CaaC (John)+]

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain: Liverpool midfielder has ankle ligament damage

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp says Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain will miss at least the Premier League leaders' next two games with ankle ligament damage.

The England midfielder, 26, was forced off during Saturday's Club World Cup final, returning later to celebrate the 1-0 victory over Flamengo on crutches.

Oxlade-Chamberlain missed almost all of the 2018-19 season with a knee injury.

"We have to see how quick it can settle," said Klopp, whose side face second-placed Leicester on 26 December.

"It can take a while, or it can be quicker."

Klopp said there was "no chance" Oxlade-Chamberlain could make Thursday's match at the King Power Stadium (20:00 GMT kick-off). Liverpool then hosts Wolves on Sunday (16:30) in what will be their ninth game of a packed December.

The German also confirmed three other injured players - midfielder Fabinho and defenders Dejan Lovren and Joel Matip - will also not play again this year.

The Club World Cup was the second trophy Liverpool - who are 10 points clear at the top of the Premier League with a game in hand - have won this season, after they beat Chelsea on penalties to win the Uefa Super Cup in August.

They also won last season's Champions League with a 2-0 win over Tottenham in the final on 1 June.

"We have developed at playing in finals. You get used to the excitement and still doing the right things. We have matured," added 52-year-old Klopp, whose side had been beaten in three finals before victory over Spurs in Madrid.

"We went there to Qatar to achieve something special. We did that, it felt brilliant. We went home, had a proper sleep and now we prepare for Leicester."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50901736

[CaaC (John)+]

Liverpool appeal to the Premier League to allow them to wear their FIFA world champions badge... with rules usually forbidding them from mid-season kit changes. (Daily Mail)

Edited December 24, 2019 by CaaC (John)

[LFCMadLad]

Klopp's christmas message. What a legend!!

 

I would like to take this opportunity to wish all of our supporters a very peaceful and merry Christmas, however you choose to mark this period of the year.

Liverpool Football Club is a special club, one with fans, players and staff from different backgrounds and cultures, with their own individual customs and traditions, and everyone will choose to celebrate today in their own way.

I love this. It’s something special.

Our dressing room illustrates how wonderful it is when a mix of cultures, traditions, backgrounds and beliefs all come together as colleagues, as friends, all sharing the same collective goals. Really, it is amazing to see.

For us, as for many in football, today is also a day of work at Melwood as we continue our preparations for a trip to Leicester City tomorrow. We will then head home and spend the afternoon with our families and friends before we travel tomorrow morning.

So, however you are spending today and the festive period, I wish you, your family and your loved ones nothing but a peaceful, enjoyable day. Spend the day with the people you love and enjoy their company, this is important and what I love most about this time of year.

It is, naturally, a time to briefly reflect on an incredible year for these boys, this club and, of course, our supporters.

I think you know me well enough by now, I am not a guy for looking back, not when there is work to do. But how can I ignore what we have all experienced in this year?

I have just one word for it: wow.

I am so proud of many things. Of course, firstly for everyone to have the chance to celebrate Liverpool being trophy winners once again.

For as long as I live, I will never forget that night in Madrid and the following day in Liverpool as we brought the Champions League home. I remember I once said the city would ‘explode’ when we won a trophy, but I think I even may have underestimated it a bit. Those scenes… I cannot even think of them now without getting goose bumps

That day, you made us go through every kind of emotion and when I looked people in the eye from up on that bus, it reinforced what I’ve known since October 8, 2015 – I am the luckiest man alive to be a part of this football club, a part of this special family.

That we were also able to follow the Champions League up with two more trophies, the Super Cup and the FIFA Club World Cup, as well as producing week after week in the Premier League, says everything about these boys.

Seriously, I could not be any prouder than I am to be the manager of these players.

I have called them the ‘mentality monsters’ at various points throughout 2019 because they keep delivering, no matter what the circumstances, no matter what the odds.

Of course, this was never truer than that night against Barcelona at Anfield when they went beyond 100 per cent, they pushed themselves to their absolute maximum and then more, and delivered something special.

But let’s be clear about this: we could not have done this without you.





One of the things that made me most emotional, most happy, when we were on that bus travelling through the city in June was that we did this together. All of us, we all played a part.

Not just the players, not just my staff and certainly not just me. It was everyone who works at Melwood, everyone who works at the club and gives their all each and every day and, just as important, each and every one of you who make so many sacrifices, who make such a commitment to support us every time.

I do not have the words to explain to you properly how that makes us feel, but let me say it like this: we do not take it for granted, we appreciate it and we love it.

I will let you into a little secret, after Madrid I spent so many hours watching all the videos of our supporters on YouTube, just trying to take it all in and see all the things we might have missed while we were preparing for the game against Tottenham. It made me so proud and so happy.

We do this together and we will continue to do so in 2020, whatever that year may hold for us. For me, this is what makes us Liverpool.

Our thoughts and love, as always, are with the Hillsborough families, survivors and campaigners – and, of course, the 96 – especially at such an emotional time of year. I cannot find sufficient words to describe our respect for the dignity, determination and courage they are somehow able to find more than 30 years after the tragedy.

But what I can say with absolute certainty is that they will never be forgotten.

We continue to be inspired by the remarkable strength of Seán Cox and his family, and we were humbled to welcome them back to Anfield last month and spend a little time in their company. I hope to see them again soon.

Seán’s progress is important to all of us and I know our fans have consistently embodied the spirit of You’ll Never Walk Alone in their support for him since the shocking incident outside the stadium last April. This is no surprise.

I also want to take a moment to highlight a few things that have made me proud off the field in this year and praise the work of those who give so much back to the community here.

As with every year since I have been here, we recently made our annual visit to Alder Hey and I can say the work the staff do there is unbelievable. Really, it is world-class in supporting those brave children and families fighting life’s real battles.

While we were there, I was fortunate to meet a little boy called Kai and spend some time with him. When I was told on Christmas Eve he had been discharged from hospital and could spend Christmas at home, I was so, so happy for him and his family.



Remember Kai, the young @lfc fan who said " I love you" to Jurgen Klopp? Well, Kai was discharged not longer after #LFC's visit, meaning he's #HomeForChristmas Have a wonderful Christmas Kai, from everyone here at Alder Hey!



He was just one of many special children we met that day and I again left Alder Hey with the feeling that Liverpool has an outstanding facility it should be absolutely proud of.

My respect and admiration for everyone who works there is at the highest level it can be and I will spend a moment to think of you today.

Again, the work of the Fans Supporting Foodbanks initiative continues to grow and grow with the help and dedication of both Liverpool and Everton supporters, who put football rivalry aside to do something good for those who are less fortunate.

Of course, we have own our own charity and programmes at the club – LFC Foundation and the Red Neighbours programme – and it is important to me that we give back what we can, however we can, so I am proud to have seen them continue to grow over the course of the year.

There are many, many more people and organisations who will dedicate their time this Christmas to helping and supporting others, including today, as well as those who will continue to work to looking after people’s health, wellbeing and safety today.

From all of us at Melwood, we wish you all a very Merry Christmas.

To those travelling to watch us at Leicester on Boxing Day, I wish you all a safe journey and we look forward to seeing – and hearing – you once again. The same for everyone who will be with us at Anfield on Sunday for the visit of Wolves.

And we know there will be people watching us all over the world by whatever means they can – and we love this idea of so many fans coming together to invest in our 90 minutes of football. It is something that is special, comforting and again shows the collective effort that is Liverpool Football Club.

So, however you spend today, I wish you all the very best and I’ll see you soon.

You’ll Never Walk Alone,

Jürgen

[Dr. Gonzo]

Fuck the premier league saying we can only wear that badge for one match, and that it can only be against Wolves. If we’re going to flex on anyone, why Wolves? There’s clubs from Manchester and also our dickhead local rivals?

If not for not wanting to piss them off so they don’t fix matches against us, I’d say fuck it wear it each match. But they can arbitrarily make things up as they go. Fuck the premier league though, the worst thing that ever happened to football was them breaking off from the football league and pretending they’re gods gift to football.

[CaaC (John)+]

 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Nat Phillips is being recalled from loan for cover at CB. Probably means bad news on the Lovren/Matip front tbh.

[Harry]

10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Nat Phillips is being recalled from loan for cover at CB. Probably means bad news on the Lovren/Matip front tbh.

Your thoughts on the implications of that for January defensive signings...?

[Harry]

Anyone else find it surprising that conceding 14 from 18 games equates to being the tightest defence in the league...? 

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

Your thoughts on the implications of that for January defensive signings...?

I think that means they’re unlikely tbh, don’t think we’d stop a kid’s development suddenly if we were just planning on bringing someone in

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

Anyone else find it surprising that conceding 14 from 18 games equates to being the tightest defence in the league...? 

Not really, that’s less than a goal a game which is pretty impressive I think.

I’m more impressed we scored 4 on a defense that had only conceded 14 in 17

[Stan]

8 hours ago, Harry said:

Anyone else find it surprising that conceding 14 from 18 games equates to being the tightest defence in the league...? 

Not surprising given how good the defence is...? Van Dijk is quality. TAA & Robertson are very good. I know there's CB injury problems but your squad has been managed well by Klopp. It's perhaps an area you need improvement in in terms of depth but I wouldn't say surprising at all. Especially given how much you dominate games.

Agree with @Dr. Gonzo it's impressive.

Not to be biased but I'd say it's more surprising we've only conceded 18 in 19 given the reputation Rodgers had from his time in Liverpool. Obviously a big factor in that is Soyuncu's presence over Maguire. Given us much more assurance and calmness & composure in the back line. Maguire (and his lack of pace) was a bit of a liability.

 

[Harry]

7 hours ago, Stan said:

Not surprising given how good the defence is...? Van Dijk is quality. TAA & Robertson are very good. I know there's CB injury problems but your squad has been managed well by Klopp. It's perhaps an area you need improvement in in terms of depth but I wouldn't say surprising at all. Especially given how much you dominate games.

Agree with @Dr. Gonzo it's impressive.

Not to be biased but I'd say it's more surprising we've only conceded 18 in 19 given the reputation Rodgers had from his time in Liverpool. Obviously a big factor in that is Soyuncu's presence over Maguire. Given us much more assurance and calmness & composure in the back line. Maguire (and his lack of pace) was a bit of a liability.

 

I was more suggesting that the best defences in the league should be going for a goal every other game rather than a goal a game on average. 

[LFCMike]

2 hours ago, Harry said:

I was more suggesting that the best defences in the league should be going for a goal every other game rather than a goal a game on average. 

Our average at the moment would see us concede 30 over 38 games I think. Apart from last season and the season before that's better than most champions this decade

[Harry]

3 hours ago, LFCMike said:

Our average at the moment would see us concede 30 over 38 games I think. Apart from last season and the season before that's better than most champions this decade

Cheers. I guess I was just comparing it to the feeling of last year where it seemed like clean sheets for both us and City left right and centre.

[CaaC (John)+]

England right-back Trent Alexander-Arnold, 21, says he wants to remain at Liverpool for his entire career and become a club legend. (Sportbladet, via Independent)

[CaaC (John)+]

On 07/08/2019 at 13:52, LFCMadLad said:

Nathaniel Phillips has today signed a new long-term contract and has immediately joined VfB on a season’s loan.

Hope the loan goes well because hes a very decent talent. 

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp has suggested the club have only recalled English centre-back Nat Phillips, 22, from his loan at German side Stuttgart on a temporary basis. (Liverpool Echo)