Administrator Stan Posted February 22, 2018 Author Administrator Posted February 22, 2018 apparently he broke in to a guy's house, kidnapped him, tied and beat him up then robbed his house as well with a couple of other guys.
Cicero Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stan said: apparently he broke in to a guy's house, kidnapped him, tied and beat him up then robbed his house as well with a couple of other guys. Honestly?
Administrator Stan Posted February 22, 2018 Author Administrator Posted February 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, Cicero said: Honestly? that's what is being reported Quote The 23-year-old has been charged after an incident in which a man was allegedly threatened with a gun, assaulted and robbed Villarreal defender Ruben Semedo has been arrested and held without bail for kidnapping, theft and assault charges. On Thursday, Semedo was denied bail as a judge ruled he must be held in prison until his trial is complete due to a risk of escape or recidivism. The charges stem from an incident in which a victim was allegedly tied up, robbed, beaten and held by Semedo and two other men on February 12. Semedo and the other two men allegedly threatened to cut off the victim's fingers and fired a gun in his direction in an act of intimidation. The victim reportedly suffered a broken ankle and had a computer, several watches, and £21,000 stolen. Police also found an illegal firearm when searching Semedo's home following the incident. It wasn't the first off-field trouble for the Portugal U-21 international, who was also arrested in November for an altercation in a nightclub. That trial is still yet to take place. The 23-year-old signed for the Yellow Submarine from Sporting CP during the summer but has only made four La Liga appearances due to injuries.
SirBalon Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Yep... This case has been in the Spanish media headlines for a while and to be honest it sounds absolutely mental and he looks very culpable and will probably do a long stretch in prison.
Machado Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Don't think Villarreal will be signing any Sporting Lisbon players any time soon... €14M for a gangster. When you're playing in La Liga and making good money you've pretty much made it in your life, and the only crime you should be commiting is tax dodging These ghetto kids that become footballers sometimes go down the wrong path and waste their talent, but I've never heard of something quite like this. He must be surrounded by terrible people.
Eco Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Machado said: Don't think Villarreal will be signing any Sporting Lisbon players any time soon... €14M for a gangster. When you're playing in La Liga and making good money you've pretty much made it in your life, and the only crime you should be commiting is tax dodging These ghetto kids that become footballers sometimes go down the wrong path and waste their talent, but I've never heard of something quite like this. He must be surrounded by terrible people. This - To us, they have made it, but some of these guys that were raised in the slums don't know a good thing when they have it. This is very extreme though.
Spike Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Meanwhile Marcos Alonso is a free man. I don't see the comparison? Gross negligence isn't the same as intent.
SirBalon Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Meanwhile Marcos Alonso is a free man. Mate, are you saying the system is racist or maybe xenephobic? Maybe elitist and white supremacist?
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 4 hours ago, SirBalon said: Mate, are you saying the system is racist or maybe xenephobic? Maybe elitist and white supremacist? I don't know about that, but it's definitely bullshit.
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Spike said: I don't see the comparison? Gross negligence isn't the same as intent. Manslaughter and murder are both homicide.
Panna King Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 4 hours ago, SirBalon said: Mate, are you saying the system is racist or maybe xenephobic? Maybe elitist and white supremacist? Most systems are.
Administrator Stan Posted February 23, 2018 Author Administrator Posted February 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Manslaughter and murder are both homicide. Semedo's victim isn't dead.
SirBalon Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Stan said: Semedo's victim isn't dead. Indeed, but attempted murder carries a very similar sentence to that of murder.
Spike Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Manslaughter and murder are both homicide. With lazy statements like this you can also drawn nonsensical similarities between a 'crime of passion' and the holocaust, as they are both homicide. You know there is a difference between someone getting in a car with a drunk person and dying in a crash, and someone being attacked during a burglarly.
SirBalon Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Intent to murder is a big time crime. This ain’t ABH or GBH... This is the law stating you intended to kill someone (murder) and failed in that attempt. That accusation if proved beyond a reasonable doubt is almost at the level (very little between the two and is negligible as to punishment) of committing murder itself.
Inverted Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Imagine being a professional footballer and commiting a burglary.
SirBalon Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Inverted said: Imagine being a professional footballer and commiting a burglary. Machado explains it well. Social structures and everything that surrounds them are to blame here. Now whether you want to ultimately blame capitalism or governments themselves, we can have a debate. But this is the result and a career based on a lack of cultural assimilation and a good upbringing is paramount. This is class difference at the essence of the problem.
Cicero Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Inverted said: Imagine being a professional footballer and commiting a burglary. And stealing an amount that is probably less than your weekly salary
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 58 minutes ago, Spike said: With lazy statements like this you can also drawn nonsensical similarities between a 'crime of passion' and the holocaust, as they are both homicide. You know there is a difference between someone getting in a car with a drunk person and dying in a crash, and someone being attacked during a burglarly. They both belong in prison. But they're footballers in/from Spain, let's see what happens.
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