Administrator Stan Posted May 21, 2018 Administrator Share Posted May 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Danny said: Whole post was about not getting excited over a player you've never seen. but based on fans that actually have watched him play, they're sad to see him go, didn't want him to go and don't know why he's gone so cheaply so what does that tell you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Stan said: but based on fans that actually have watched him play, they're sad to see him go, didn't want him to go and don't know why he's gone so cheaply so what does that tell you... That you still haven't seen him play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 21, 2018 Administrator Share Posted May 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, Danny said: That you still haven't seen him play? I have seen him play a few times. The point still stands though that I take in to account what Porto fans are saying about him (they've seen him play, fyi) and how good he has been, therefore I think it's reasonably acceptable to get excited about seeing him play for us. What's so hard to understand about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Stan said: I have seen him play a few times. The point still stands though that I take in to account what Porto fans are saying about him (they've seen him play, fyi) and how good he has been, therefore I think it's reasonably acceptable to get excited about seeing him play for us. What's so hard to understand about that? You're the one finding it difficult.... not seen someone play, gets excited about them, they don't turn out to be that good, probably good to not get too excited about someone you've never seen play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 21, 2018 Administrator Share Posted May 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Danny said: You're the one finding it difficult.... not seen someone play, gets excited about them, they don't turn out to be that good, probably good to not get too excited about someone you've never seen play. you're finding it difficult to understand why we are getting excited. I get the whole being cautious thing, but then he might play well and live up to the hype and reviews he's been getting. Then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Stan said: you're finding it difficult to understand why we are getting excited. I get the whole being cautious thing, but then he might play well and live up to the hype and reviews he's been getting. Then what? Then you get excited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Bizarre logic from you Danny I must say. If we had signed somebody and the fans from his old team were absoluteky raging then I'd be optimistic about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted May 21, 2018 Author Subscriber Share Posted May 21, 2018 It really isn't that unrealistic to have an idea about how a player will turn out nowadays without having watched them extensively. Do a bit of research on the players I think you'll get more right than wrong. I reckon the fans' reaction is usually the best gauge - I don't remember Sporting fans being devastated at losing Slimani for example and Nigeria fans warned us of Musa's limitations. These are the best reviews I've seen of a player we've signed in a long time. Possibly as long as I can remember. I don't think it's unthinkable to be quite optimistic about a player drawing such a reaction, who plays in a position we've been crying out for an upgrade in for years. If he's worse than Simpson I'll admit I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted November 23, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted November 23, 2019 Tottenham manager Jose Mourinho could bring in Leicester City and Portugal full-back Ricardo Pereira, 26, to replace Kieran Trippier who left for Atletico Madrid in the summer. (Express) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted November 23, 2019 No he fucking won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted November 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted November 23, 2019 I agree, I can't see this happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machado Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 He's probably the best Portuguese right back now and there's some serious competition. English football was good for his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted November 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted November 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, Machado said: He's probably the best Portuguese right back now and there's some serious competition. English football was good for his development. I think he's probably one of the best right back's in the league in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Batard said: I think he's probably one of the best right back's in the league in my opinion It’s why Leicester are so strong...Walker is a better right back, TAA better going forward, outside of them I can’t think of a right back in the league that is as good as him...let alone better than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted November 26, 2019 Author Subscriber Share Posted November 26, 2019 This thread was a funny read back gut instinct was spot on on this one. I think this bloke's absolutely top drawer, one of the best right backs currently in the game. I'd genuinely not swap him for any right back in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 26, 2019 Administrator Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 20/05/2018 at 21:07, Danny said: This level of excitement over a player you've never seen play before can only end one way Could be class for you but I'd not get excited yet. What about now? I've seen him play lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Dan said: This thread was a funny read back gut instinct was spot on on this one. I think this bloke's absolutely top drawer, one of the best right backs currently in the game. I'd genuinely not swap him for any right back in the league. Trent is better imo. His stats are off the chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted November 27, 2019 Author Subscriber Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Trent is better imo. His stats are off the chart. Genuinely wouldn't swap and that's in no way a dig at TAA. Ricardo's better going forward than the majority of wingers in the league and has impressive defensive stats as well. He wouldn't look out of place playing for the elite IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dan said: Genuinely wouldn't swap and that's in no way a dig at TAA. Ricardo's better going forward than the majority of wingers in the league and has impressive defensive stats as well. He wouldn't look out of place playing for the elite IMO. Trent stands out playing for the elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teso dos Bichos Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 The same trent that was exposed as the below average defender he is by RM and Rashford alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, Teso dos Bichos said: The same trent that was exposed as the below average defender he is by RM and Rashford alone? The same Trent that has been to 2 consecutive Champions League finals and is now romping the league? Your opinion means nothing since you included AWB in the team of the decade mate How can anyone take you seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 27, 2019 Administrator Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 hours ago, LFCMadLad said: Trent is better imo. His stats are off the chart. Hmm. For this season, Pereira is better when it comes to all round game. These were stats up before the games at the weekend: Tackles: Pereira - 54 (best in the league for a defender) TAA - 15 (5th for Liverpool) Tackles per game: Pereira - 4.7 TAA - 1.1 Interceptions: Pereira - 1.8 TAA - 1.5 Clearances Both 2.6 Granted the styles of both sides are fairly different but still think it's a fair barometer to compare defensive stats. Tackle Success Percentage: Pereira - 47/66 - 71.21% TAA - 11/22 - 50% TAA has been more influential passing - 3.7pg compared to Pereira's 1pg. Dribbling: Pereira - 22/38 - 57.89% TAA - 5/19 - 26.32% Aerial Duels: Pereira - 13/30 - 43.33% TAA - 4/12 - 33% The disclaimer being that both players are having fantastic seasons and both fit each other's clubs perfectly for the tactics they employ. I also wouldn't swap Pereira for anyone at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, Stan said: Hmm. For this season, Pereira is better when it comes to all round game. These were stats up before the games at the weekend: Tackles: Pereira - 54 (best in the league for a defender) TAA - 15 (5th for Liverpool) Tackles per game: Pereira - 4.7 TAA - 1.1 Interceptions: Pereira - 1.8 TAA - 1.5 Clearances Both 2.6 Granted the styles of both sides are fairly different but still think it's a fair barometer to compare defensive stats. Tackle Success Percentage: Pereira - 47/66 - 71.21% TAA - 11/22 - 50% TAA has been more influential passing - 3.7pg compared to Pereira's 1pg. Dribbling: Pereira - 22/38 - 57.89% TAA - 5/19 - 26.32% Aerial Duels: Pereira - 13/30 - 43.33% TAA - 4/12 - 33% The disclaimer being that both players are having fantastic seasons and both fit each other's clubs perfectly for the tactics they employ. I also wouldn't swap Pereira for anyone at the minute. My point was his attacking stats mate. I read somewhere the other day that Trent has created more goalscoring chances than anyone in the league. His goal assists also over the past two seasons is ridiculous for a fullback. The stats you posted dont tell the true story of how good he is because Trent isnt in our team to defend. In fact it's probably the last thing that's required of him. Our midfielders cover a lot of the spaces Trent leaves because quite frankly hes THAT good going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Tbf those Pereira stats are also absolutely ridiculous. It’s not a competition, there’s room for more than 1 good right back in the league Well it is a competition because everyone wants to win the league. But there’s still room for more than 1 good right back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Tbf those Pereira stats are also absolutely ridiculous. It’s not a competition, there’s room for more than 1 good right back in the league Well it is a competition because everyone wants to win the league. But there’s still room for more than 1 good right back To be fair I think both players fit their respective clubs perfectly as in the way they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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