Kowabunga Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 This topic is extremely important for the turks (grrrreat people) as Erdoğan says naysayers risk afterlife as well. Maybe not so much for Europe, as according to the very same Erdogan, this center of Nazism is rotting anyways. Discuss, predict, take a jibe at Erdoğan.
Administrator Batard Posted April 13, 2017 Administrator Posted April 13, 2017 You can't help but feel this will be an utter disaster for Turkey.
Inverted Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Occasions like this are why you should always be wary when people say referendums are the purest expression of democracy. Democracy is nothing without solid institutions, which referendums can easily undermine.
Kowabunga Posted April 13, 2017 Author Posted April 13, 2017 Might Turkey eventually become a nice partner for global Britain then?
SirBalon Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Kowabunga said: Might Turkey eventually become a nice partner for global Britain then? They need to be more evil on their citizens a-la Saudi Arabia for that to happen.
Moderator Tommy Posted April 13, 2017 Moderator Posted April 13, 2017 It's always funny when you hear pro-Erdogan people talking. They say he made the country what it is, he brought them economic strength and all that. Is that why they're constantly asking other countries for loans? The tourism has practically broken down, so they'll only spiral further into disaster. Seems like the brainwashing from the Erdogan controlled Turkish Media is working quite well.
Kowabunga Posted April 13, 2017 Author Posted April 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, SirBalon said: They need to be more evil on their citizens a-la Saudi Arabia for that to happen. Global Britain and the League of Deplorable Regimes has a nice ring to it.
6666 Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, Kowabunga said: Global Britain and the League of Deplorable Regimes has a nice ring to it. Does Turkey have enough oil money to buy us though? We don't bend over for any random dictator. Only rich ones.
Kowabunga Posted April 13, 2017 Author Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, 6666 said: Does Turkey have enough oil money to buy us though? We don't bend over for any random dictator. Only rich ones. You just want to sell them weaponry and stuff.
Honey Honey Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 We already get a lot of our clothing from Turkish sweatshops where Syrian children work for nothing. Just wait til we are out of the customs union with Turkey and can lower clothing tariffs on everyone so child abusers can compete with each other more fairly.
Spike Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 I've never had an experience with a Turk that wasn't...well very odd to say the least.
Honey Honey Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Erdogan is claiming victory. 51.3% apparently. 2 years until the next General Election.
Moderator Tommy Posted April 16, 2017 Moderator Posted April 16, 2017 Most of the yes-votes came from Turks living in Germany, Holland etc. They should just move to Turkey then, and see if they'd still like it. Let's see if their glorious leader is still so great up-close when you actually have to live in those conditions.
Moderator Tommy Posted April 17, 2017 Moderator Posted April 17, 2017 Atatürk must be rolling in his grave.
The Artful Dodger Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 This vote is in keeping with the Brexit and Trump votes, a radical shift to the right. A right-wing with an Islamic focus is still right-wing. Just like with Brexit it seems like the large urban centres are home to less reactionary, conservative people and voted against Erdogan. I think we need to see urban centres become free city states, they are totally out of sync with the creeping nationalism of the countryside and small towns.
Honey Honey Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 Gerrymandering the nation state would be economic idiocy for northern English cities.
The Artful Dodger Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 The nation state is one big gerrymander from its inception.
Honey Honey Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 That makes it ok to cut your nose off to spite your face then?
Fairy In Boots Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 14 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said: This vote is in keeping with the Brexit and Trump votes, a radical shift to the right. A right-wing with an Islamic focus is still right-wing. Just like with Brexit it seems like the large urban centres are home to less reactionary, conservative people and voted against Erdogan. I think we need to see urban centres become free city states, they are totally out of sync with the creeping nationalism of the countryside and small towns. Except several major urban areas voted for Brexit. On topic I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's rigged this vote.
Fairy In Boots Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 There's reports of his supporters beating opponents in the streets. It's just such a shame for what was once a secular country moving the right way forward
Danny Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Remember when people voted Brexit because Turkey were going to flood the UK
The Artful Dodger Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 13 hours ago, Fairy In Boots said: Except several major urban areas voted for Brexit. On topic I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's rigged this vote. All the sound cities voted in...
Fairy In Boots Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 On 18/04/2017 at 9:08 PM, The Artful Dodger said: All the sound cities voted in... Hull voted out by 62%, I don't need to say anything else really
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