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[Azeem]

An 18 yeard old with 130 followers here has been sentenced to two years in prison for making a tweet against the state... a tweet !

They put in the effort to find such an anonymous account just to instill fear.

[MUFC]

 

[OrangeKhrush]

On 02/03/2023 at 07:46, Beelzebub said:

An 18 yeard old with 130 followers here has been sentenced to two years in prison for making a tweet against the state... a tweet !

They put in the effort to find such an anonymous account just to instill fear.

it is what the documents contained that the government needs to censor as it will bring down the house of cards.

the document confirms that in fact the US has troops in Ukraine and that even with all the support Russian defense is to stronk, Ukraine is losing 7 or 8 to 1 ratio on ground troops, about 6 to one on tanks and about 14 to 1 in aerial conflicts.  the report says that Russia have critically disabled Ukraine's surface to air defence network and capable of striking targets with impunity.   

 

it's time for a ceasefire.

[OrangeKhrush]

bud going the same way as Gillette, Vic Secret and Disney.  Next up Nike, avengers assemble.

on a separate note why would anyone torture themselves drinking Budweiser, so maybe Dylan saved people from drinking crap and start drinking proper beer.  

[OrangeKhrush]

On 11/04/2023 at 05:48, MUFC said:

 

started a twitch stream for it but nobody did anything to notify authorities but watched it

[MUFC]

 

[OrangeKhrush]

Chicago's mayor blames corporates for the looting and rampant crime.  Companies are to blame for making money.  

even a socialist state like China sells product and gives nothing to its population, people need to drop this "free" "equal" bullshit, that is not how the world works and instead of bitching, do something that doesn't involve committing a crime.

[Dr. Gonzo]

On 15/04/2023 at 01:37, OrangeKhrush said:

bud going the same way as Gillette, Vic Secret and Disney. 

So doing just fine?

[Bluewolf]

On 19/04/2023 at 23:38, Dr. Gonzo said:

So doing just fine?

Not quite.... 

Bud Light vice president ‘takes leave of absence’ following trans partnership backlash (msn.com)

[Dr. Gonzo]

On 22/04/2023 at 11:01, Bluewolf said:

Not quite.... 

Bud Light vice president ‘takes leave of absence’ following trans partnership backlash (msn.com)

I'd also take a leave of absence after 2 weeks of death threats. But I'm pretty sure the company will be fine.

America's far right is shit at boycotting. When they want to express their outrage at Budweiser, Nike, Keurig, Disney, etc... they buy products for them to then destroy in front of a camera before they upload the video online. So they spend money on the products they don't want to support and give the company publicity (because even bad press is good press).

In a few months it'll all blow over and nobody will give a shit that a bad beer had a transvestite on the can for a short period of time. The vast majority of people in the US, in my experience living here, don't really give a shit about the culture war bullshit the media tries to push on them. Especially on an issue that only really impacts 1% of the US. It's just a distraction the media pushes because it takes away attention from actual issues that should be addressed that aren't necessarily in the best interests of media companies and the companies that advertise on them.

[OrangeKhrush]

17 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I'd also take a leave of absence after 2 weeks of death threats. But I'm pretty sure the company will be fine.

America's far right is shit at boycotting. When they want to express their outrage at Budweiser, Nike, Keurig, Disney, etc... they buy products for them to then destroy in front of a camera before they upload the video online. So they spend money on the products they don't want to support and give the company publicity (because even bad press is good press).

In a few months it'll all blow over and nobody will give a shit that a bad beer had a transvestite on the can for a short period of time. The vast majority of people in the US, in my experience living here, don't really give a shit about the culture war bullshit the media tries to push on them. Especially on an issue that only really impacts 1% of the US. It's just a distraction the media pushes because it takes away attention from actual issues that should be addressed that aren't necessarily in the best interests of media companies and the companies that advertise on them.

she got fired along with her appointments. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

4 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said:

she got fired along with her appointments. 

Nah, she's going to be reshuffled elsewhere instead of marketing. And it's not because of any "boycott" it's because of the numerous threats against Anheuser-Busch; only 30% of their revenue comes from the US and it's basically a US culture war issue rather than anything actually serious.

I honestly don't see how this trans shit got the way it is. Tbh, I don't understand it and I've got the viewpoint that may be considered "controversial" now - I think it's a form of body dysmorphia in all honesty. But I'm noto so extreme as those who think every trans person is a pedophile and I certainly don't agree with the extremists who think these people should be eradicated. The ones who aren't hurting anybody else should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want, so long as they aren't hurting anybody else. And the ones who are sex-pests or whatever... should be treated like sex pests.

But it's such a small portion of the population... I just don't understand how it's become such a huge issue that it's talked about constantly instead of actual important issues that actually impact the lives of most people. This culture war bullshit is just a means of distracting people from important issues so we all focus on shit that really doesn't make a massive difference in the grand scheme of things.

[OrangeKhrush]

10 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Nah, she's going to be reshuffled elsewhere instead of marketing. And it's not because of any "boycott" it's because of the numerous threats against Anheuser-Busch; only 30% of their revenue comes from the US and it's basically a US culture war issue rather than anything actually serious.

I honestly don't see how this trans shit got the way it is. Tbh, I don't understand it and I've got the viewpoint that may be considered "controversial" now - I think it's a form of body dysmorphia in all honesty. But I'm noto so extreme as those who think every trans person is a pedophile and I certainly don't agree with the extremists who think these people should be eradicated. The ones who aren't hurting anybody else should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want, so long as they aren't hurting anybody else. And the ones who are sex-pests or whatever... should be treated like sex pests.

But it's such a small portion of the population... I just don't understand how it's become such a huge issue that it's talked about constantly instead of actual important issues that actually impact the lives of most people. This culture war bullshit is just a means of distracting people from important issues so we all focus on shit that really doesn't make a massive difference in the grand scheme of things.

The problem is the use of this as a political power play and clinging to it as a form of strong arming.   Tolerance and forcing a lie on people are two different things.  I think the trans situation is well overdue a conversation on what really is a trans person and instead of dumping hundreds of billions into a losing war in Ukraine,  they should be dumping into mental health programs to help people with body dysmorphia which is only a phase that many grow out of. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 minute ago, OrangeKhrush said:

The problem is the use of this as a political power play and clinging to it as a form of strong arming.   Tolerance and forcing a lie on people are two different things.  I think the trans situation is well overdue a conversation on what really is a trans person and instead of dumping hundreds of billions into a losing war in Ukraine,  they should be dumping into mental health programs to help people with body dysmorphia which is only a phase that many grow out of. 

Are they losing the war in Ukraine though? It seems like Russia's invasion that was meant to take just a few days has been dragged out successfully and the Russians now have to take defensive positions rather than act as invaders and occupiers.

I'm pretty sure the lessons learned from Chamberlain dealing with Hitler are applicable with Putin. Obama, Merkel, Cameron, & co., tried the appeasement stuff with Putin when he took Crimea - it did not stop Russian belligerence and aggression towards Ukraine. Bush & EU/UK leaders did the same thing with Russia invaded Georgia.

If you don't stop an aggressive dictator from expanding throughout Europe, they're going to keep expanding and acting more belligerent. Hitler, Stalin, and now Putin have demonstrated it. It's pretty clear that the people of Ukraine don't seem to want to succumb to Russia, nor do many of these former Soviet bloc countries. It's better to support them now and foster alliances with them now than to let them fall and have the aggressive dictator bordering Western Europe and thinking it'll just take that superior infrastructure and economic power for itself.

[OrangeKhrush]

13 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Are they losing the war in Ukraine though? It seems like Russia's invasion that was meant to take just a few days has been dragged out successfully and the Russians now have to take defensive positions rather than act as invaders and occupiers.

I'm pretty sure the lessons learned from Chamberlain dealing with Hitler are applicable with Putin. Obama, Merkel, Cameron, & co., tried the appeasement stuff with Putin when he took Crimea - it did not stop Russian belligerence and aggression towards Ukraine. Bush & EU/UK leaders did the same thing with Russia invaded Georgia.

If you don't stop an aggressive dictator from expanding throughout Europe, they're going to keep expanding and acting more belligerent. Hitler, Stalin, and now Putin have demonstrated it. It's pretty clear that the people of Ukraine don't seem to want to succumb to Russia, nor do many of these former Soviet bloc countries. It's better to support them now and foster alliances with them now than to let them fall and have the aggressive dictator bordering Western Europe and thinking it'll just take that superior infrastructure and economic power for itself.

I don't need to think the war was never one to win but to subsist as long as possible for monetary benefits,  they are now moving to Taiwan which is an even more futile endeavor but as long as they can sell weapons for money that is alll that matters. 

Putin's part is in question however NATO expansionist ideology has its part to play as well and according to the pentagon leaks they have had 5 or 6 opportunities to obtain a ceasefire but voted to prolong the conflict. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

3 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said:

I don't need to think the war was never one to win but to subsist as long as possible for monetary benefits,  they are now moving to Taiwan which is an even more futile endeavor but as long as they can sell weapons for money that is alll that matters. 

Putin's part is in question however NATO expansionist ideology has its part to play as well and according to the pentagon leaks they have had 5 or 6 opportunities to obtain a ceasefire but voted to prolong the conflict. 

The thing about NATO being expansionist is... it wasn't really looking like an expanding anytime recently up until Russia invaded Ukraine. There was some talk of Ukraine wanting to join NATO to protect itself from what it (accurately) thought was the threat of Russian invasion, but it wasn't taken seriously because of rules on being a NATO member and needing to have resolved border conflicts for a certain number of years.

Russia invades Europe and suddenly countries all around Russia express an interest in joining the alliance meant to protect sovereignty from Russian aggression... it's not surprising.

Furthermore, it's hard to call NATO expansionist when joining NATO doesn't mean you're all of a sudden a western puppet. Look at Turkey, one of the most important nations in NATO from a geo-strategic standpoint... are they a US or EU puppet? Absolutely not, they constantly act in ways that piss off the US and EU. Same with Hungary, which is both a NATO and EU member. Whereas in Russia's equivalent to NATO, CSTO... it's an alliance where nations are called on when Russia wants them to, but they don't really lift a finger if other CSTO nations ask for assistance.

So it's not like NATO is going around convincing nations to become their vassel states to mirror CSTO. In fact, this recent surge in NATO's popularity all falls squarely at Putin's feet - it isn't that long ago that people felt NATO was an outdated alliance as Russia was believed to be less beligerant than it was.

Similarly, I don't think you can blame Ukraine or NATO for not trusting Russian ceasefire calls, considering how early on in the war Russia and Ukraine would agree to ceasefires and then Russia would promptly break the ceasefire. This is not the West's war to end though - it's Ukraine and Russia's to end... and of course the West will support Ukraine against Russian expansion into Europe (that's why NATO existed in the first place)... if Russia wants the fighting to stop, they must leave all of Ukraine and respect Ukraine's sovereignty.

And if the people of Russia want that but their leaders are unwilling to end the war... it's on the Russian people to do something about their government.

[MUFC]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65453952

[MUFC]

 

[Dr. Gonzo]

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@MUFC

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(I'm totally going to use Japanese emoticons in protest of upvotes being inaccessible to the peasants) 

 

[MUFC]

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[Bluewolf]

This is a sad state of affairs for me... 

Trans pupils put school policies to test amid heated debate in England (msn.com)

How can an 11 year old really know there own mind at that age??? They have not even lived a teenage life and had all those experiences that come with it yet. If it was up to me I would have age barriers in place that prevent this sort of thing happening until they reach an age that could be considered more well rounded and have a more mentally mature outlook before embarking on such a life changing experience... 

[Spike]

On 09/05/2023 at 06:22, Bluewolf said:

This is a sad state of affairs for me... 

Trans pupils put school policies to test amid heated debate in England (msn.com)

How can an 11 year old really know there own mind at that age??? They have not even lived a teenage life and had all those experiences that come with it yet. If it was up to me I would have age barriers in place that prevent this sort of thing happening until they reach an age that could be considered more well rounded and have a more mentally mature outlook before embarking on such a life changing experience... 

If people are born gay, they are born trans. Instead of trying to control the child, a better solution is helping and supporting them.

Trans people have always existed but until now they couldn’t and had no means of expressing themselves, culturally and financially. It was only very few that had the means to do so and only later in life. Now we are progressing to a point where people are able to identify their own feelings and express them outwardly. I’ve always known I was a boy and that I attracted to women, why can’t it be the same for trans?

[Bluewolf]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

If people are born gay, they are born trans. Instead of trying to control the child, a better solution is helping and supporting them.

Trans people have always existed but until now they couldn’t and had no means of expressing themselves, culturally and financially. It was only very few that had the means to do so and only later in life. Now we are progressing to a point where people are able to identify their own feelings and express them outwardly. I’ve always known I was a boy and that I attracted to women, why can’t it be the same for trans?

I don't dispute feelings of individuals or their choices in life only at the age of 11 I doubt a child could make a rational life changing decision  without truly understanding the long term consequences of their actions.. We are in a time where they can get swept up in social media coverage and latest trends or movements the same way they are influenced by fashion or gadgets for example except this is not something that you can just throw away or move on from because the changes they are being encouraged to go through are permanent life changing ones. By all means support a child if that's how they are feeling because shutting them down could cause more issues in the long term so would not support that but they need to be approaching this in a more sensible way especially when dealing with children of a certain age rather than just jumping on board with what they think they want... 

[Spike]

53 minutes ago, Bluewolf said:

I don't dispute feelings of individuals or their choices in life only at the age of 11 I doubt a child could make a rational life changing decision  without truly understanding the long term consequences of their actions.. We are in a time where they can get swept up in social media coverage and latest trends or movements the same way they are influenced by fashion or gadgets for example except this is not something that you can just throw away or move on from because the changes they are being encouraged to go through are permanent life changing ones. By all means support a child if that's how they are feeling because shutting them down could cause more issues in the long term so would not support that but they need to be approaching this in a more sensible way especially when dealing with children of a certain age rather than just jumping on board with what they think they want... 

HRT is reversible, so it isn’t permanent at all, which observational because people transition. Either way they going through puberty, may as well pick they one that feels right.

Edited May 10, 2023 by Spike