SirBalon Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 10 hours ago, SirBalon said: And the thing is that it just has to be accepted under that very poor and lazy excuse for being permitted to be racist, xenophobic, anti-semitic, Islamophobic... Fuck it... A lazy bigot! Why? Well unless one develops a biological difficulty to digest vocabulary and what it means, then being excused is just as lazy from us excusing them as it is for society to accept a crap reason for enablement. Sometimes it is definitely used as an excuse. I mean unless you live under a rock you must shorly be aware that Asian people don't like the term Paki. Some people say they dont understand why it is offensive, fair enough. However my sister who is very anti racist has never used it even though she didn't know why it was offensive because she was aware that it was. Sometimes it is old fashioned ideas though. My auntie for example (who is very educated) said people were more tolerant years ago because they didn't say everything was racist. I suppose in her head that made sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Interesting interview with Zaha about the racism he faces on a regular basis (he says nearly every match): https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/wilfried-zaha-racist-abuse-twitter-kick-it-out-crystal-palace-latest-a8946956.html I wonder if he gets more abuse than most other black footballers in England because he chose the Ivory Coast over us for his national team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Administrator Stan Posted August 3, 2019 Administrator Share Posted August 3, 2019 Posted it in the Fulham thread as well. Despicable and hope the fan is caught/questioned by police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted August 3, 2019 Administrator Share Posted August 3, 2019 I'm guessing this is related to it, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 A 32 year old man posting shit like this. The mind boggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted August 8, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, LFCMike said: A 32 year old man posting shit like this. The mind boggles Wondered when you'd get round to posting this one . I won't have it said that I refuse to criticise him though, what a cunt. In more positive news, the friendly majority of Blues have crowd-funded (£3000) a banner to support young Moise Kean, in response to the repeated racial abuse he faced playing in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Wondered when you'd get round to posting this one . I won't have it said that I refuse to criticise him though, what a cunt. In more positive news, the friendly majority of Blues have crowd-funded (£3000) a banner to support young Moise Kean, in response to the repeated racial abuse he faced playing in Italy. I'd only heard about that guy who'd been arrested because Everton, the club - not the supporters, put out a statement condemning him and stating that racism has no part of the game. So fuck that guy, but we can't really shit on Everton when they're behaving commendably. And then you couple that with the anti-racism banner for Kean... and it looks a far cry from the club that threw bananas at John Barnes while chanting "N****rpool" Fuck that racist twat though. I wonder what was said... and if it was similar to what that twat on here once said about Salah (and me)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted August 8, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 8, 2019 51 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I'd only heard about that guy who'd been arrested because Everton, the club - not the supporters, put out a statement condemning him and stating that racism has no part of the game. So fuck that guy, but we can't really shit on Everton when they're behaving commendably. And then you couple that with the anti-racism banner for Kean... and it looks a far cry from the club that threw bananas at John Barnes while chanting "N****rpool" Fuck that racist twat though. I wonder what was said... and if it was similar to what that twat on here once said about Salah (and me)... He posted a photo shopped picture of Salah with a bomb vest drawn on him. Looked like it had been done in MS Paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: He posted a photo shopped picture of Salah with a bomb vest drawn on him. Looked like it had been done in MS Paint. What a twat. In terms of bigotry towards Arabs/Middle Easterners though, I've seen far worse on Merseyside. But I'm glad he's been arrested, fuck him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted August 15, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: I feel bad for the boy, he was visibly shaken by the fact that he missed the penalty and then all this comes out post that. I don't think Twitter will do anything here just like they haven't done in the past either when it comes to issues regarding online-bullying and trolling or even worse problems with users being racially abusive towards other users. Its a cesspool filled with all kinds of issues that they have never truly addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Twitter is an open sewer. It is human beings with the power to be heard. Human beings are nearly all appalling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mel81x said: I feel bad for the boy, he was visibly shaken by the fact that he missed the penalty and then all this comes out post that. I don't think Twitter will do anything here just like they haven't done in the past either when it comes to issues regarding online-bullying and trolling or even worse problems with users being racially abusive towards other users. Its a cesspool filled with all kinds of issues that they have never truly addressed. Twitter won't do shit about racism. Racism whips up a frenzy of activity on twitter from racist idiots looking to join in on the "fun" of being cunts to people anonymously on the internet. Then there'll be a headline about the terrible shit that's being said on twitter and... the twitter board of directors probably high fives that they've gotten twitter to show up in the news again. All publicity is good publicity and all that. It's the same reason they don't do anything about bots and fake users, despite all the negative coverage about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted August 15, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Twitter won't do shit about racism. Racism whips up a frenzy of activity on twitter from racist idiots looking to join in on the "fun" of being cunts to people anonymously on the internet. Then there'll be a headline about the terrible shit that's being said on twitter and... the twitter board of directors probably high fives that they've gotten twitter to show up in the news again. All publicity is good publicity and all that. It's the same reason they don't do anything about bots and fake users, despite all the negative coverage about that. They generally like hiding behind user rights when it comes to tackling really big issues and its happened in the past too. They are incapable of turning off that community because, as you said, it drives so much traffic and creates so much conflict that they can then use to channel stuff as top hits. I dont think Chelsea will get any joy out of this route honestly and the best they, or any club, can do is to make sure that people who attend games or travel for games dont promote the idea that the club is okay with racism of any sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted August 16, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 16, 2019 I know it's probably unrealistic but if you walked down the street telling "Tammy Abraham is a fucking n*gger" then you'd get the shit kicked out of you or you'd get arrested depending on who got to you first. Tweets that are reported as racist should be forwarded to the local police, like what happened with the Everton fan who made that Salah bomb vest tweet the other week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 21 hours ago, Mel81x said: They generally like hiding behind user rights when it comes to tackling really big issues and its happened in the past too. They are incapable of turning off that community because, as you said, it drives so much traffic and creates so much conflict that they can then use to channel stuff as top hits. I dont think Chelsea will get any joy out of this route honestly and the best they, or any club, can do is to make sure that people who attend games or travel for games dont promote the idea that the club is okay with racism of any sort. I think players should start suing twitter. If twitter isn't going to police itself without motivation, maybe hitting them in their pockets will give them the motivation to do that. 3 hours ago, RandoEFC said: I know it's probably unrealistic but if you walked down the street telling "Tammy Abraham is a fucking n*gger" then you'd get the shit kicked out of you or you'd get arrested depending on who got to you first. Tweets that are reported as racist should be forwarded to the local police, like what happened with the Everton fan who made that Salah bomb vest tweet the other week. The problem there is that unless that person's identified themselves on twitter, they're basically anonymous. But the counterpoint to what I said is that Everton fan got arrested, so clearly it did help. But yeah, I think that's a good thing for twitter users who see this kind of racist stuff to do. But the thing is, how do I know which police to report it to when it's twitter and they've gone fully anonymous? I wouldn't know who they are or where they are from, would I? Or do tweets have that geolocation shite on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 More abuse of Pogba in the news. A lot of criticism of Social Media, is there actually more they can do, other than ban the user and send their details to the police? They can't prevent people from posing a racist remark if that person chooses to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted August 20, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: More abuse of Pogba in the news. A lot of criticism of Social Media, is there actually more they can do, other than ban the user and send their details to the police? They can't prevent people from posing a racist remark if that person chooses to. There must be something they can do. Anyone sending racist tweets to players like that should have their account instantly closed and their email address blacklisted from all social media websites. Can't see that happening though. It's also a fine line to tread, if they start picking up on certain words that get posted as part of edgy jokes or just as every day remarks and end up barring a few people they shouldn't have then the "free speech" kick off will be major. Ideally the solution is for people to stop acting like cavemen but that's just unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted August 20, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 20, 2019 I used to remember years ago when YouTube first started out that they had a team which actively monitored content for violations and started removing them. I'd imagine any social-media platform would do the same and just have someone monitoring all their content and blocking/filtering out the content. I think three years ago there was a team from the nordics who came up with a very innovative way of flagging content based on context and they were able to reduce the amount of racially abusive traffic on some platform (I think it was facebook at the time) but no one gave them a second chance. It also boils down to how the platform of choice views its users and their posting. If you think the masses will perform an exodus and just migrate then action is taken but in the case of a platform like Twitter its become a common occurrence because they'll be fine no matter how many people leave the platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said: More abuse of Pogba in the news. A lot of criticism of Social Media, is there actually more they can do, other than ban the user and send their details to the police? They can't prevent people from posing a racist remark if that person chooses to. Rashford was given some abuse too for making comments defending Pogba. It’s got to be so disheartening for black players in England to see racism in football still so prevalent. But rather than monkey chants they deal with it once they’re off the pitch and on their Twitter or insta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Pyfish+ Posted August 20, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 20, 2019 Seen that Maguire has said that people should have to sign up with a driving licence or form of ID. Not a bad idea but can't ever see that happening. Would stop people hiding behind a screen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Pyfish said: Seen that Maguire has said that people should have to sign up with a driving licence or form of ID. Not a bad idea but can't ever see that happening. Would stop people hiding behind a screen though. They make you do it for betting sites yet Twitter is the world’s biggest free porn site. It would certainly make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Let me ask you all a serious questions, because I gave up on Italian football because of how Balotelli and others were treated (bananas being thrown and all that shit). How is this still a thing? We don't this behavior at stadiumds in the U.S. (unless I'm highly mistaken), but whereas he have terrible race relations and have a fued between the NFL and players kneeling in regards to race relations, we rarely have any verbal racist taunting done by fans. I understand Social Media is a different beast, but from my understanding, the racial abuse towards Pogba was directed during the game... What the aboslute fuck is wrong with people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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