Administrator Stan Posted July 16, 2019 Administrator Posted July 16, 2019 That's Jovic and Haller that have left Frankfurt now. Where will their goals come from next season? Decent signing for West Ham. Much better than Carroll and could link up with Chicharito well. They've got Lanzini back properly now too.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted July 16, 2019 Subscriber Posted July 16, 2019 Think we should have been looking at this guy based on his numbers last season and £45m isn't excessive to pay for a proven goalscorer with a decent age. Perhaps he doesn't fit the system too well but hopefully we've got a plan. Decent signing for West Ham anyway.
Rick Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 Very good signing for West Ham. I question Frankfurt though, selling both your strikers? Weird.
...Dan Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 Was brilliant at Frankfurt, could be a great signing.
Panna King Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 Very average player, i followed him from a young age while he was at Utrecht, not sure he will be good in the premiership.
Moderator Tommy Posted July 16, 2019 Moderator Posted July 16, 2019 Big loss for Frankfurt and the Bundesliga. I rate him highly and always enjoyed watching him.
Moderator Tommy Posted July 16, 2019 Moderator Posted July 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Panna King said: Very average player, i followed him from a young age while he was at Utrecht, not sure he will be good in the premiership. He scored 41 goals in 82 games for Utrecht? Pfffft, amateur.
Panna King Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tommy said: He scored 41 goals in 82 games for Utrecht? Pfffft, amateur. So that doesn't make him good, Jozy Altidore scored 39 goals in 67 games for AZ Alkmaar.
Dr. Gonzo Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggles a bit this season as he gets used to the league, tbh. I suspect he’ll be branded a flop by the bright minds that support West Ham, but will eventually be a decent striker in the league
Administrator Stan Posted July 16, 2019 Author Administrator Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Panna King said: So that doesn't make him good, Jozy Altidore scored 39 goals in 67 games for AZ Alkmaar. But Haller stepped up in to the Bundesliga and had a big impact in a successful Frankfurt side especially last season. 15 goals and 9 assists is not a bad return at all for a club like them. Jovic only got 2 more goals in the league than him and he's been raved about from pillar to post and look where he's got a move to this summer. I think he's quite cutting to call him average!
Panna King Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 17 hours ago, Stan said: But Haller stepped up in to the Bundesliga and had a big impact in a successful Frankfurt side especially last season. 15 goals and 9 assists is not a bad return at all for a club like them. Jovic only got 2 more goals in the league than him and he's been raved about from pillar to post and look where he's got a move to this summer. I think he's quite cutting to call him average! Yeah and Jovic went to Real Madrid and Haller is going to West Ham you work it out.
Moderator Tommy Posted July 17, 2019 Moderator Posted July 17, 2019 18 hours ago, nudge said: 50 million Euro for Haller?... Jesus Christ. Footballer: Can walk and kick a ball ok. English Teams:
Danny Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 20 goals and 12 assists last season suggests the money is worth it Its rare that a striker does well in Germany and struggles to replicate that in England, very similar leagues in terms of style and quality.
Administrator Stan Posted July 17, 2019 Author Administrator Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Panna King said: Yeah and Jovic went to Real Madrid and Haller is going to West Ham you work it out. Okay you totally missed the point but never mind.
Panna King Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Stan said: Okay you totally missed the point but never mind. I got the point but I think he is average, hence why he is going to West Ham.
Administrator Stan Posted July 17, 2019 Author Administrator Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Panna King said: I got the point but I think he is average, hence why he is going to West Ham. Where a player goes to doesn't always mean he's average. Prime example being Mahrez & Kante moving to Leicester. Are they average? Not at all. Someone like Moutinho moving to Wolves. Is he average? Nope. Could think of many other examples but your logic is flawed.
Panna King Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stan said: Where a player goes to doesn't always mean he's average. Prime example being Mahrez & Kante moving to Leicester. Are they average? Not at all. Someone like Moutinho moving to Wolves. Is he average? Nope. Could think of many other examples but your logic is flawed. Mahrez and Kante is a different example, they were scouted very well and unheard of so they were bought for a small amount of money that is why they moved on to bigger teams. Haller is 25 years old and is going 45 Million! it is a signing out of pure desperation. He has done nothing but because West Ham have seen he scored a few goals, I can guarantee he will be a flop there.
Administrator Stan Posted July 17, 2019 Author Administrator Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Panna King said: Mahrez and Kante is a different example, they were scouted very well and unheard of so they were bought for a small amount of money. Haller is 25 years old and is going 45 Million! it is a signing out of pure desperation. Even so, going back to my original point. If Haller is 'average' for scoring 15 goals and 9 assists in 2018/19 for Frankfurt, what does that make Jovic, who only scored 2 more goals? Not denying Jovic is a very good striker, more that Haller shouldn't be downgraded to just be 'average'.
Panna King Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Stan said: Even so, going back to my original point. If Haller is 'average' for scoring 15 goals and 9 assists in 2018/19 for Frankfurt, what does that make Jovic, who only scored 2 more goals? Not denying Jovic is a very good striker, more that Haller shouldn't be downgraded to just be 'average'. Haller is nothing special at all, plus this was one of the poorest Bundesliga for years that a half arsed Munich team were still able to win the league. Even Kramaric scored 17 goals in it
Administrator Stan Posted July 17, 2019 Author Administrator Posted July 17, 2019 I bet Kramaric is average then as well. We're going round in circles so no point continuing. Agree to disagree.
Panna King Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Stan said: I bet Kramaric is average then as well. We're going round in circles so no point continuing. Agree to disagree. Kramaric is nothing special as well, it was proved by his dreadful time at Leicester but he was bought for only 9 million Pounds. The point you are missing is that Haller is going for 45 million when he is probably only worth 15 million. The German league is by far weaker now that it has ever been in recent years.
Panna King Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Haller transfer confirmed now 45 million pounds. I hope Utrecht get a large percentage out of this deal.
Panna King Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Tommy said: Footballer: Can walk and kick a ball ok. English Teams: Quite funny that if he was good enough, Munich are so desperate to sign forward players and his name didn't even come up.
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