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I'll be honest, I'm at loss at what is the actual point of this article? Questioning whether obesity alone is an independent factor for higher risk of covid-19 complications or whether it's a combination of factors is one thing, but it soon went into "fat activists" (whatever the fuck it is) rambling about the society and scientists interpreting the research data being "fatphobic" and claiming that it's harmful to attribute obesity to negative outcomes because it causes stigma and daily discrimination to those of "higher weight" The best part was the claim that apparently it's not being obese but the stigma associated with it that jeopardises their health, as it "can increase the likelihood of chronic inflammation, which is in turn linked to diseases that increase COVID-19 risk such as heart disease, cancer, asthma, and diabetes". What a load of bollocks. They should be encouraging obese people to change their diets and lifestyles to improve their general health instead of accusing researchers of having prejudices against "fat bodies"...

Openly admitted it too. Got the police on the line now.

66 and for a non-Liverpool fan I'm not that disappointed! Missed some obvious ones from the 80s. Guessed a few random surnames. Been watching some of the Big Match Revisited on BT Sport recently and that helped though

I really, really don't get your point. BMI might not be flawless as a measurement (there are better ones), but obesity is an established medical diagnosis with well known concrete negative health effects with tons of research throughout the decades, so I'm not sure what "rhetoric" you're referring to? Yes, it's a complex condition influenced by many factors, including genetic and socioeconomic ones, but regardless of what combination of factors causes it, it doesn't change the fact that an obese person is, well, obese. It's a medical term, not some arbitrary label assigned to someone in order to discriminate or create stigma. I think the article is just trying to spin the latest research on obesity and covid-19 into some sort of a social issue, which in my opinion is a very weird thing to do here.

I'd heard some people were having Covid-19 parties for the same reason. I still think with the virus being new, it's probably too early to be trying something like that in places where healthcare systems can potentially get overwhelmed like we saw with Italy. But if there's no vaccine, I can see that sort of stuff being done to build up an immunity in kids. It's hard to really say though, because so little is known about the virus and what the long terms effects are. They say it's not that bad for kids, but I do know the US had an infant death from it a few weeks ago. Yeah, I agree with that take on that article. I sort of rolled my eyes with that editorial note explaining how "fat-activist friendly terms will be used" when it's meant to be a health article, and the correct medical term to be using throughout the article is "obese." Asking us to separate being obese from the number of health issues that can stem from obesity doesn't really make sense, when we're discussing obesity as a medical issue in the face of a global health crisis.

Two races at Silverstone confirmed!

How did you bump into him when you are supposed to be 2 metres apart?

But it worked. I had chicken pox as a kid. I came out in shingles aswell in my early 20s and apparently you can only have that if you have had chicken pox. Shingles were just under the arm pit area though. I thought I had a disease like monkeypox at first as I came out in it just days after being bitten and scratched by a monkey in a house party(don't ask), but that was pretty grim to be fair. Nothing antibiotics didn't get rid of but it leaves a weird feeling in your nerves in that area for months.

Mad that anti-lockdowners are still trying to use Sweden as an example of how the lockdown hasn't actually made any difference. Bonus points when they use "countries like Sweden" or "Sweden and other countries" then fail to provide a second example of said other countries. To be fair though, in the long run we still don't know if Sweden's approach may have some merit. Has their health system been overwhelmed? If we can't get a vaccine then the only option will be to eventually let a large enough proportion of the population to catch it and develop immunity. My Mum used to tell me stories of another infection, chicken pox, that was relatively safe to catch as a child but much more dangerous if you caught it later in life. People used to take their toddlers round to their neighbours' houses when their kids had chicken pox so that they could catch it themselves and develop immunity to it. I'm mostly joking, but could we end up doing something like that with Covid 19?

It doesn't make sense that they would be doing this though. The numbers don't add up. Over 50,000 more people have now died in the last couple of months than in the same period last year or the year before or the year before that (I think it may be a lot more than 50,000 now actually). We know that about 33,000 of them are Covid-19. What about the rest? They're certainly not over reporting the numbers linked to Covid-19. There will be a lot more. It's pretty obvious that a lot of the deaths that are yet to be explained will be Covid-19

That's good going for someone who doesn't support the club

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52124004 In a series of widely-reported social media posts following her death, Ms Middleton's family said she "had passed away from Covid-19" and urged others to "do your bit" to stop the spread.

Spent most of the afternoon fitting a blind in my daughters bedroom and noticed my neighbour out doing the garden topless... took me a while to get the thing to fit and every time I looked out the window all I could see was two wobbly boobs on show... Just wish his wife was more into gardening than he is..

The Conservatives: anyone using the pandemic as an opportunity to score political points is a disgrace. Also the Conservatives: