Administrator Stan Posted February 6, 2020 Administrator Share Posted February 6, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 @ScoRoss @Rab care to fill me in? No idea what this is about and I’ve even tried looking it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 57 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: @ScoRoss @Rab care to fill me in? No idea what this is about and I’ve even tried looking it up. The subtitles of Moreles's interview apparently said he was the subject of racist abuse from Celtic fans. Celtic claim that the actual words he said in Spanish don't directly translate to him complaining about racist abuse & take offense to the insinuation they've got racist fans. I didn't hear the original interview, nor have I seen a transcript, so no idea if Celtic have a point or not. But Sky did pull the interview after the complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 This whole last week of Scottish football media has Jim Traynor's fat fingers all over it. Still, how hard would it be for Sky to actually check with someone who speaks Spanish to clarify the translation was correct? Or actually have their own interpreter there? Also, Celtic haven't denied that racist abuse took place but only about the translation was wrong. A thoroughly weird week all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted February 7, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted February 7, 2020 Alfredo Morelos: Apology, correction and the full transcript of Sky Sports News interview Anyone speak or can understand Spanish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I mean Celtic fans are racist so it's not really surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 14 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: The subtitles of Moreles's interview apparently said he was the subject of racist abuse from Celtic fans. Celtic claim that the actual words he said in Spanish don't directly translate to him complaining about racist abuse & take offense to the insinuation they've got racist fans. I didn't hear the original interview, nor have I seen a transcript, so no idea if Celtic have a point or not. But Sky did pull the interview after the complaint. This cracks me up, how any football club in this country has the bollocks to claim that they don’t have any racist fans is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchalkeUK Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, Danny said: This cracks me up, how any football club in this country has the bollocks to claim that they don’t have any racist fans is beyond me Sadly I would not argue even if you removed the word football from your sentence at this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, SchalkeUK said: Sadly I would not argue even if you removed the word football from your sentence at this time! The issue with racism as we know it is that it’s a societal issue and completely systemic, football is just the most inclusive sport in the country so of course there will be people from poorer/working class backgrounds who have been fed the bottom of the barrel racism their entire lives where they don’t actually benefit from racism but end up acting as foot soldiers for people in the upper classes who do and so they come to games and end up abusing people. The team you support will have little effect on that. Not just racism, homophobia and sexism have been rife within football for a long time and it’s only recently that genuine efforts are being made to educate people. The problem is that you have a national broadcaster that can’t differentiate between black people, you have the two main political parties who have a long history of bigotry most recently highlighted through anti-semi time and islamophobia, the current PM’s racist background has been highlighted extensively and yet he was voted in with a large majority. Football clubs can carry out damage control within their own grounds but as society is moving closer towards racist and bigoted ideologies rather than away from them, incidents within football grounds will carry on highlighting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchalkeUK Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I have been luckier than most - a lot of my time as an adult has been spent looking after and trying to educate young people - from 6 and 7 up to 16 and 17 - only when they ineract with Adults do they seem to develop opinions that are dangerous - as kids and young people they don't seem to notice colour or accent - they just get on with each other. My 'Lego' kids on Saturday vary from UK to India to Egypt and China and just enjoy themselves together. Life would be much easier and more pleasant without grown-ups! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Danny said: This cracks me up, how any football club in this country has the bollocks to claim that they don’t have any racist fans is beyond me Did Celtic deny it though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, ScoRoss said: Did Celtic deny it though? I wasn’t directing it at Celtic mate, just that thought process in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Storts said: I mean Celtic fans are racist so it's not really surprising In comparison to who, more so than other clubs, more so than Rangers? Massive generalised statement to make that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Celtic and Rangers and their petty rivalry bores the shit out of me. It’s all very tit-for-tat and “he said”, “she said” and they seem to moan about menial nonsense. They’re moaning about subtitles FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Smiley Culture said: Celtic and Rangers and their petty rivalry bores the shit out of me. It’s all very tit-for-tat and “he said”, “she said” and they seem to moan about menial nonsense. They’re moaning about subtitles FFS. Yes, but what religion were these subtitles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Scotland may not be world class at many things, but whataboutery is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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