Mpache Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 This thread might be a bit cliche but hear me out. Every year we are convinced that X player is the new best LB in the world, or that Suarez is no longer the best striker and instead now it's Lewandowski. Opinion's change fast and it could be due to form, decline in physique, finding limitations or more. So what is your starting 11 in 2020? I'll do U23 and World. World Neuer TAA - Thiago Silva - Van Dijk - Davies Thiago - Veratti Mbappe - Messi - Neymar Lewandowski Bench: Cristiano Ronaldo, Koulibaly, Robertson, Navas, De Bruyne, Cavani, Gueye, Muller U23 Wuilker Fariñez TAA - De Ligt - Upamecano - Davies Tonali - De Jong Szobozlai ------------------------------- Sancho Mbappe - Haaland Bench: Donnaruma, Vinicius Jr, Rodrygo Goes, Joe Gomez, Ruben Dias, Van de Beek, Lautaro Martinez, AWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Neuer Kimmich----Koulibaly---VVD---Robertson Goretzka-----Partey KDB Messi---------------------Ronaldo Lewendowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God is Haaland Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Neuer TAA----Koulibaly---VVD---Robertson Goretzka-----Kimmich KDB Messi---------------------Di Maria Lewandowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tepmz Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Nice idea for a thread. Oblak TAA - Virgil - Ramos - Robertson Kimmich - KDB Mbappe - Messi - Ronaldo Lewandowski Probably the most comfortable time I've had creating an 11 in a while. I think only 2 positions were up for debate in my eyes. Oblak and Neuer were fairly close, but Oblak snatched it after his performance against us in the Champions League this year, and Ramos takes it over the likes of Varane/Koulibaly on the basis of his leadership qualities, comfort on the ball and goal contributions. TAA is a comfortable choice for me, as is VVD. Davies over Robertson might be a conversation to have in a few years, but defensively I'm still not 100% convinced by him. The midfield pairing isn't the most balanced, but I'm not going to leave KDB out of a team like this. Thiago might've made it over Kimmich should he have been healthy all year. Front four I think speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 Interesting at the amount of Kimmich but in different roles. I almost had him at my RB spot but I wasn't 100% sure as he tends to be off and on during different seasons. It's certainly a close one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted August 28, 2020 Administrator Share Posted August 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mpache said: World Neuer TAA - Thiago Silva - Van Dijk - Davies Thiago - Veratti Mbappe - Messi - Neymar Lewandowski Bench: Cristiano Ronaldo, Koulibaly, Robertson, Navas, De Bruyne, Cavani, Gueye, Muller I didn't think Ben Davies was all that but each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stan said: I didn't think Ben Davies was all that but each to their own. I'll move him to midfield then and change his name to Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted August 28, 2020 Administrator Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tepmz said: Nice idea for a thread. Oblak TAA - Virgil - Ramos - Robertson Kimmich - KDB Mbappe - Messi - Ronaldo Lewandowski Probably the most comfortable time I've had creating an 11 in a while. I think only 2 positions were up for debate in my eyes. Oblak and Neuer were fairly close, but Oblak snatched it after his performance against us in the Champions League this year, and Ramos takes it over the likes of Varane/Koulibaly on the basis of his leadership qualities, comfort on the ball and goal contributions. TAA is a comfortable choice for me, as is VVD. Davies over Robertson might be a conversation to have in a few years, but defensively I'm still not 100% convinced by him. The midfield pairing isn't the most balanced, but I'm not going to leave KDB out of a team like this. Thiago might've made it over Kimmich should he have been healthy all year. Front four I think speak for themselves. Pretty much this for me, too. Maybe not have De Bruyne as deep but he has employed that play-making position often this season. Plus I think he's fairly under-rated for how much he actually tracks back in defensive positions. It's not what he's known for but he's dominating that midfield role in an attacking sense for sure. Agree with your reasons too for each. Davies/Robertson is probably the closest match-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tepmz Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Stan said: Pretty much this for me, too. Maybe not have De Bruyne as deep but he has employed that play-making position often this season. Plus I think he's fairly under-rated for how much he actually tracks back in defensive positions. It's not what he's known for but he's dominating that midfield role in an attacking sense for sure. Agree with your reasons too for each. Davies/Robertson is probably the closest match-up. Yeah, it was one of those where on paper the system didn't look too coherent but Messi is occupying the #10 role for me so I'd just let KDB hold a little deeper and spread the ball around from deep. In an actual game scenario, it would probably switch to a 3 at the back type system, with Kimmich dropping in between VVD/Ramos and my two fullbacks pushing higher up the pitch. I won't pretend I've seen all that much of Davies over the course of the season, and he looked very good going forward in the Champions League, but there were a fair few occasions where he was all over the show in a positional sense. I know he's got the pace to cover for it in most circumstances, but I think if City had come up against Bayern, De Bruyne could've had a field day exploiting the gaps being left on the counter attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Pyfish+ Posted August 28, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted August 28, 2020 Alisson Alexander Arnold - Van Dijk - Silva - Robertson De Bruyne - Kimmich - Ronaldo Lewandowski - Mbappe - Mane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Tepmz said: I won't pretend I've seen all that much of Davies over the course of the season, and he looked very good going forward in the Champions League, but there were a fair few occasions where he was all over the show in a positional sense. Yes, for sure. However he used to be a LW so this may just be an adjusting issue. I reckon he'll get a grip of it soon and have competent positioning, to the point where he can get away with it. Having Robertson instead though is extremely valid. The Scot is a stallion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Varn Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Great thread! But how about the starting 11 of all time. There are just a few players on this list that would be unanimous and undebateable: Pele, Maradona, Beckenbauer, and Cruyff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Never interested in these sort of things because it is dependent on the formation. I think it is best to sort it out like this Goalkeeper Fullback Centreback Central Midfielder Winger Centre Forward If you start splitting hairs too much, soon you'll be making differentiation between an attacking fullback and a defensive fullback, or a winger/attacking midfielder. You have to keep it simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I've a pretty limited scope when it comes to the game so I'll try and keep it to players I know I've seen a lot of, or at least players I appreciate a lot. It is very difficult because players are so well-rounded they often play more than one position. Goalkeeper: Manuel Neuer Fullback: Probably Dani Carvajal, but I do like Trent Alexander-Arnold quite a lot. Centreback: Sergio Ramos Central Midfielder: Kevin de Bruyne Winger: Lionel Messi if he is played on the wings but otherwise I do quite like Bernardo Silva even though he plays in the central midfield at times. Centre Forward: Lionel Messi (does he still play centre often enough?) if not him, then Robert Lewandowski A lot of people are picking Ronaldo as a winger but he hasn't played on the wings in years, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted August 28, 2020 Administrator Share Posted August 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Spike said: Never interested in these sort of things because it is dependent on the formation. I think it is best to sort it out like this Goalkeeper Fullback Centreback Central Midfielder Winger Centre Forward If you start splitting hairs too much, soon you'll be making differentiation between an attacking fullback and a defensive fullback, or a winger/attacking midfielder. You have to keep it simple. @RandoEFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, Michael Varn said: Great thread! But how about the starting 11 of all time. There are just a few players on this list that would be unanimous and undebateable: Pele, Maradona, Beckenbauer, and Cruyff. Beckenbauer could be debatable considering the style and formation you'd want to play. Cruyff as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 ----------------Oblack----------------- TAA--Kouliaby--VVD--Davies ----KDB---Thiago----Veratti---- Di Maria---Lewa-----Messi Mbappe is overhyped to the moon. mad to have him in IMO. He's just fast and better than average. Way worse than a Hazard, Bale, Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar ect just quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Neuer TAA - Upamecano - VVD - Robertson Thiago - KDB Messi - Mueller - Ronaldo Lewandowski I think Mueller is being slept on a little - 8 goals and 21 assists in the league is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Neuer TAA - Van Dijk - Alaba - Davies De Bruyne - Thiago Messi - Neymar - Ronaldo Lewandowski Difficult leaving Mane and Mbappe out, also think Di Maria and Mueller are two who have had incredible seasons. Benzema also deserves a shout for his season at Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted August 29, 2020 Administrator Share Posted August 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, Chaaay AFC said: Neuer TAA - Van Dijk - Alaba - Davies De Bruyne - Thiago Messi - Neymar - Ronaldo Lewandowski Difficult leaving Mane and Mbappe out, also think Di Maria and Mueller are two who have had incredible seasons. Benzema also deserves a shout for his season at Madrid. Good shout with Benzema actually. Quality season for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Neuer Kimmich - Van Dijk - Upamecano - Alphonso Davies De Bruyne- Goretzka Neymar - Messi - Mbappe Lewandowski Substitutes: Oblak, TA Arnold, Thiago Silva, Alaba, Andy Robertson, Marquinhos, Frenkie de Jong, Thomas Mueller, Havertz, Di Maria, Sadio Mane, Sancho, Haaland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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