Bluewolf Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Danny said: My answer is no, not off of the back of how they’ve got their success and will most likely keep getting it. But that’s just me So you are not arguing about greatness in terms of what they win/achieve, more about how they achieved it?? In other words the fact that Arsenal won stuff with great teams rather than spending shit loads of money like Chelsea and City... Edited May 8, 2022 by Bluewolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: So you are not arguing about greatness in terms of what they win/achieve, more about how they achieved it?? In other words the fact that Arsenal won stuff with great teams rather than spending shit loads of money like Chelsea and City... Pretty much, you can’t argue with what you have won because it’s a fact that you have won it. But when people bring up the talk of massive clubs, it’s not just 10-20 years of being propped up by a foreign owner, it’s consistently being up there for decades upon decades and that is something Arsenal have been consistent with. When people are talking about football clubs in that way then they need to be mindful of the history as a whole as that is what makes these clubs so big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted May 8, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted May 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Cicero said: Real Madrid literally built their success from the influence of a fascist dictator. Juventus built their success by 'winning the lottery' when the Agnelli family bought them in the 1920's. It all starts somewhere. See I started to type something out to this effect except I don't have the historical knowledge to back it up with examples. Chelsea could have a very different perception later on in our lives, especially now that Abramovich and his money aren't involved with the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 A short while ago third spot seemed pretty much nailed on, now you're only one point ahead of Arsenal after one point in a possible six against not too great an opposition in both cases. How concerned are you that The FA Cup Final is distracting you from the league if indeed this is what's causing this present mini slump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Cicero said: Real Madrid literally built their success from the influence of a fascist dictator. Juventus built their success by 'winning the lottery' when the Agnelli family bought them in the 1920's. It all starts somewhere. Atletico Madrid were also given fond treatment by Franco, Real Madrid only got more attention because they were winning more. Atleti were the club of the airforce. Franco is such an interesting figure, so vague, so hidden from the public. He was smart to make Real Madrid a symbol of Spanish nationalism, he never made himself a public symbol. Not quite a fascist, not quite a dictator, some murky in between all because they didn’t let him into the Navy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Todd Boehly’s bid have been incredibly impressed with Tuchel, they will look to talk to him quickly and tell him their vision, it’s been a sticky patch of results but Tuchel has become Chelsea’s ambassador through all this and they’ve been hugely impressed. ( @Matt_Law_DT ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I can't get over how much he reminded me of Ted Lesso last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: I can't get over how much he reminded me of Ted Lesso last weekend. A fan on another forum actually got to speak with him. Conversation below. Quote Nah, just asked him if things are happening, he said it already was and that transfers already been spoken about. I said we need to be champions again, he said "I will do my utmost" "it's go time" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Understand Mateo Kovacic’s injury not as bad as first feared. Due to train tomorrow and has a chance of playing in Saturday’s FA Cup final #cfc #lfc — Tom Roddy (@TomRoddy_) May 12, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Reports we've agreed to take on Ivan Perisic on a free. Think that means Alonso is on his way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 More likely Werner, always seen Perisic as an attacking player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Waylander said: More likely Werner, always seen Perisic as an attacking player. He's played LWB for Inter the past two seasons. Werner I am feeling we are replacing for another RB player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: He's played LWB for Inter the past two seasons. Werner I am feeling we are replacing for another RB player... RB? Right back? Or something else..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Waylander said: RB? Right back? Or something else..... Red Bull Liepzeg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted May 13, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Red Bull Liepzeg What's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, nudge said: What's that? Sorry. Liepzëg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Cicero said: Reports we've agreed to take on Ivan Perisic on a free. Think that means Alonso is on his way out. Given the rumours of a dressing room bust up at half time against Wolves i dont think we will see Alonso play for Chelsea again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: Given the rumours of a dressing room bust up at half time against Wolves i dont think we will see Alonso play for Chelsea again. He played Wednesday mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, Cicero said: He played Wednesday mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Chelsea ladies showing how its done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Cicero said: Chelsea ladies showing how its done. They have Sam Kerr, the men have Lukaku. Kerr is elite and well Lukaku is a footballer too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Spike said: They have Sam Kerr, the men have Lukaku. Kerr is elite and well Lukaku is a footballer too The Barcelona woman’s team is genuinely incredible. 30-0-0 and a 148 G/D…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61467164 Lol, I almost feel for Chelsea fans having their future in the hands of these incompetent ministers. "Things are being held up by things we should have had cleared up when we first started doing this, not when we were trying to get this over the line." Utter fucking morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Chiwell back training with the first team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Cicero said: Chiwell back training with the first team Should be back fully fit for pre season then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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