True Blue 853 Posted August 23, 2017 High chances of us getting an English team since we can get all of them (i think). Hope we miss them as i already see them enough in the league. Think Chelsea will get: Pot 2: Barcelona or PSG Pot 3: Napoli or Roma Pot 4: Leipzig or Sporting Lisbon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stan 12,395 Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, True Blue said: High chances of us getting an English team since we can get all of them (i think). Hope we miss them as i already see them enough in the league. Think Chelsea will get: Pot 2: Barcelona or PSG Pot 3: Napoli or Roma Pot 4: Leipzig or Sporting Lisbon Teams from same nation can't be drawn against each other. Who do you mean by 'us'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True Blue 853 Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Stan said: Teams from same nation can't be drawn against each other. Who do you mean by 'us'? Never mind it slipped my mind that we played Liverpool in the group stage years ago, but it was because they won it a year before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirBalon 2,607 Posted August 23, 2017 What pot are Arsenal in? Sick joking aside... This year's draw looks very strong and very interesting. There's gonna be some serious groups out there... And then there'll be Real Madrid's of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mel81x 2,474 Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, SirBalon said: What pot are Arsenal in? Sick joking aside... This year's draw looks very strong and very interesting. There's gonna be some serious groups out there... And then there'll be Real Madrid's of course. I think we're going to have a very entertaining group stage and not just because Liverpool are in but you're right it looks well balanced across the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirBalon 2,607 Posted August 23, 2017 I want to try and do Real Madrid's group, give it a go! Real Madrid Borussia Dortmund Olympiakos Quebec Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Profesor 1,181 Posted August 23, 2017 Trying to think of a group of the death, it´d be like this: Real Madrid Man City/ Man United Napoli Sporting or Real Madrid PSG Liverpool/Tottenham Feyenoord 18 minutes ago, SirBalon said: I want to try and do Real Madrid's group, give it a go! Real Madrid Borussia Dortmund Olympiakos Quebec Come on, we all know they always get the toughest draws! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirBalon 2,607 Posted August 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, El_Loco said: Trying to think of a group of the death, it´d be like this: Real Madrid Man City/ Man United Napoli Sporting or Real Madrid PSG Liverpool/Tottenham Feyenoord Come on, we all know they always get the toughest draws! They're even gonna get a Canadian side by the looks of things! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stan 12,395 Posted August 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, El_Loco said: Trying to think of a group of the death, it´d be like this: Real Madrid PSG Napoli/Spurs Celtic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Profesor 1,181 Posted August 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stan said: Real Madrid PSG Napoli/Spurs Celtic That´d be an insane group. One must wonder for whom our beloved friend Antoñito would cheer in a match between PSG and Madrid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirBalon 2,607 Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, El_Loco said: That´d be an insane group. One must wonder for whom our beloved friend Antoñito would cheer in a match between PSG and Madrid. I'd need a spitting bucket for that game! But traditions must never die... I'd be rooting for QSI FC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Profesor 1,181 Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, SirBalon said: I'd need a spitting bucket for that game! But traditions must never die... I'd be rooting for QSI FC El efecto Neymar, hasta El Cid hincha para el equipo de los moros! Qué grande eres, Neymito! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirBalon 2,607 Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, El_Loco said: El efecto Neymar, hasta El Cid hincha para el equipo de los moros! Qué grande eres, Neymito! Dicen que en Toledo vivían Judios, Cristianos y Musulmanes en paz! Mi casa será una versión de Toledo ese día si sucede o también una mini Jerusalén. Pero vestido de Templario! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandoEFC 5,168 Posted August 23, 2017 Am I being retarded or are those pots telling me that Shakhtar and Spartak have better coefficients than Barcelona and co? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicero 4,126 Posted August 23, 2017 Hope we get a tough group. Want our players to be ready off the getco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Gold 599 Posted August 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Am I being retarded or are those pots telling me that Shakhtar and Spartak have better coefficients than Barcelona and co? They go in Pot 1 because they won their league. I can see the argument behind rewarding them for that, but I don't think it's a good system because you can get uneven groups and end up with shit teams in the knockout round while good sides get knocked out early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandoEFC 5,168 Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, Burning Gold said: They go in Pot 1 because they won their league. I can see the argument behind rewarding them for that, but I don't think it's a good system because you can get uneven groups and end up with shit teams in the knockout round while good sides get knocked out early. Bollocks that. Nothing wrong with the old system. Football has clearly never heard the term "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smiley Culture 1,474 Posted August 24, 2017 Looking at a best possible scenario for English sides. Surely United and City want Juve from Pot One, if they don't get Moscow or Benfica? It then rules out Napoli, Roma and obviously Liverpool and Tottenham from Pot Three meaning you're left with Basel, Olympiakos, Anderlecht and Besiktas. From a Chelsea point of view, I can't see much which guarantees them a much easier route to the knockout stage. I'd say that avoiding Napoli and Roma is their greatest challenge as then whoever they get from Pot Two and themselves should be progressing. For Tottenham and Liverpool, I think the best case is Benfica, Moscow or Donetsk. That does leave a tough draw from Pot Two but barring Leipzig and maybe Feyenoord, it shouldn't be too bad for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Artful Dodger 1,733 Posted August 24, 2017 Joke that Man Utd are in such a high pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smiley Culture 1,474 Posted August 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: Joke that Man Utd are in such a high pot. They won the Europa League, they won an actual trophy, in fact they won two trophies. It's a joke that England has so many teams and the reward for doing nothing is a Champions League place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Premier Steve's 3,099 Posted August 24, 2017 11 hours ago, SirBalon said: What pot are Arsenal in? Crack pot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Artful Dodger 1,733 Posted August 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: They won the Europa League, they won an actual trophy, in fact they won two trophies. It's a joke that England has so many teams and the reward for doing nothing is a Champions League place. I agree but winning a sub par competition should not give you preference in the premier one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smiley Culture 1,474 Posted August 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: I agree but winning a sub par competition should not give you preference in the premier one. But finishing 17 points behind the league winners should? Isn't that rewarding failure over rewarding winners, no matter the trophies relevance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HK85 267 Posted August 24, 2017 10 hours ago, RandoEFC said: Bollocks that. Nothing wrong with the old system. Football has clearly never heard the term "if it ain't broke don't fix it". The old system was Champions only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Artful Dodger 1,733 Posted August 24, 2017 53 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: But finishing 17 points behind the league winners should? Isn't that rewarding failure over rewarding winners, no matter the trophies relevance? As I said, I agree but one doesn't contradict the other. Winning a subpar cup, espeically with the easiest run i've ever seen to the final, shouldn't be rewarded like that. They should be in the bottom pot/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Premier Steve's 3,099 Posted August 24, 2017 Could be a group of Spartak Moscow, Manchester United, Basel and Carrier Bag phwoahhhh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stan 12,395 Posted August 24, 2017 no idea if this is possible because of all the weird and wonderful ramifications that UEFA like to chuck in, but here's my guess: Real Madrid Man City Napoli APOEL Chelsea Atletico Anderlecht Celtic Benfica Barcelona Roma Leipzig Monaco Dortmund Tottenham Sporting Lisbon Bayern Munich Man Utd Basel Maribor Spartak Moscow PSG Liverpool Feyenoord Juventus Porto Olympiakos CSKA Moscow Shakhtar Sevilla Besiktas Qarabaq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Premier Steve's 3,099 Posted August 24, 2017 The only certainty in the draw is that Celtic will get Barcelona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LFCMike 1,985 Posted August 24, 2017 Are Man Utd neutral (no country protection) because they qualified via the Europa League or can they still not draw an English team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
