The Artful Dodger 1,732 Posted March 13, 2017 I'm not sure what this is supposed to show? The especially tall teams seem to be midtable or lower. Football continues to be one of the only sports in which size is not important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stan 10,977 Posted March 13, 2017 what the fuck is going on at Watford . Tall and fat is their motto. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machado 1,285 Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: I'm not sure what this is supposed to show? The especially tall teams seem to be midtable or lower. Football continues to be one of the only sports in which size is not important. It think it shows exactly that. Chelsea seem to have the worst of both worlds, yet sit at first place quite comfortably. Edited March 13, 2017 by Machado Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Bruce Almighty 2,956 Posted March 13, 2017 How much is Peter Crouch distorting Stoke's average height? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LFCMadLad 1,735 Posted March 13, 2017 We dream of a team of lightweight midgets 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Palace Fan 1,871 Posted March 13, 2017 3 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said: I'm not sure what this is supposed to show? The especially tall teams seem to be midtable or lower. Football continues to be one of the only sports in which size is not important. Not necessarily. Dougie Freedman had a policy with us where he openly said he would avoid signing players smaller than six feet and the squad he predominantly built took us from a Championship relegation battle to a top half Premiership finish and an FA Cup final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eco 2,119 Posted March 13, 2017 So basically this is saying that Watford's team looks like 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stan 10,977 Posted March 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, ATL said: So basically this is saying that Watford's team looks like and this is their new goal-keeper coach. 6ft 2. 23 stone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eco 2,119 Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, StanLCFC said: and this is their new goal-keeper coach. 6ft 2. 23 stone Is that the meat pie bloke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stan 10,977 Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, ATL said: Is that the meat pie bloke? yeah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eco 2,119 Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, StanLCFC said: yeah What a sexy beast.. Heard he either got fired or resigned after all those pictures surfaced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Artful Dodger 1,732 Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Aaroncpfc said: Not necessarily. Dougie Freedman had a policy with us where he openly said he would avoid signing players smaller than six feet and the squad he predominantly built took us from a Championship relegation battle to a top half Premiership finish and an FA Cup final. Oh, the famous Dougie Freedman, the bestowed great Dougie Freedman? What a shit philosophy, England is more neanderthal than most I suppose. Much rather watch small players play football myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dickie 236 Posted March 13, 2017 Imagine if we had N'Zonzi and Huth still... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 1,386 Posted March 14, 2017 We are generally quite a small side actually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Bruce Almighty 2,956 Posted March 14, 2017 Watford warming up before kick off at Vicarage Road Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Palace Fan 1,871 Posted March 14, 2017 17 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said: Oh, the famous Dougie Freedman, the bestowed great Dougie Freedman? What a shit philosophy, England is more neanderthal than most I suppose. Much rather watch small players play football myself. Regardless of what you think of him he built a team that were destined to go down that went on to finish tenth in The Premier League and played in an FA Cup because of the high recruitment standards he has. Something that if history's anything to go by will not happen again at our club for decades. He's evidence that you can be successful without fielding a team of midgets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robosys 6 Posted March 14, 2017 Watford is just wrong, plain wrong... they don't look like they are tall though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pig on the Wing 289 Posted March 17, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 2:23 PM, Aaroncpfc said: Not necessarily. Dougie Freedman had a policy with us where he openly said he would avoid signing players smaller than six feet and the squad he predominantly built took us from a Championship relegation battle to a top half Premiership finish and an FA Cup final. Interesting. At Bolton, he had a policy of spunking huge contracts on Sunday League lumps like Liam fucking Trotter, and that somehow didn't work...? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Palace Fan 1,871 Posted March 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, StefBWFC said: Interesting. At Bolton, he had a policy of spunking huge contracts on Sunday League lumps like Liam fucking Trotter, and that somehow didn't work...? He had to put food on the table for his family remember. Show him some respect. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pig on the Wing 289 Posted March 18, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 8:58 PM, The Artful Dodger said: Oh, the famous Dougie Freedman, the bestowed great Dougie Freedman? What a shit philosophy, England is more neanderthal than most I suppose. Much rather watch small players play football myself. Huge non sequitur. Ronaldo, Bale, Lewandowski, Reus, Pogba, Muller, Gerrard - all 6 foot plus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Artful Dodger 1,732 Posted March 18, 2017 10 hours ago, StefBWFC said: Huge non sequitur. Ronaldo, Bale, Lewandowski, Reus, Pogba, Muller, Gerrard - all 6 foot plus. It's not a non-sequitur, it's a personal preference. All those players are great, not debatable, but very powerful, fast athletes. They have plenty of skill but aesthetically I find players like Modric, Iniesta, Messi, Mata, Silva and Leon Osman far more elegant on the eye, I suppose it comes from the low centre of gravity, the ball stuck to the feet. I am small myself so I guess I'm just rooting for my guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Artful Dodger 1,732 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) On 14/03/2017 at 2:09 PM, Aaroncpfc said: Regardless of what you think of him he built a team that were destined to go down that went on to finish tenth in The Premier League and played in an FA Cup because of the high recruitment standards he has. Something that if history's anything to go by will not happen again at our club for decades. He's evidence that you can be successful without fielding a team of midgets. Well of course, but the fact is that it's more the other way round in English football. The bias has always been towards those who are big at a young age, strong blah blah. Less about technical skill, players are discared based on size rather than ability, we encourage a culture of brute force over technical ability and this is why England is hopeless at football, even with all the money and passion for the game. Freedman is hardly some maverick for insisting on having big players, he's very much par for England. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pig on the Wing 289 Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, The Artful Dodger said: It's not a non-sequitur, it's a personal preference. All those players are great, not debatable, but very powerful, fast athletes. They have plenty of skill but aesthetically I find players like Modric, Iniesta, Messi, Mata, Silva and Leon Osman far more elegant on the eye, I suppose it comes from the low centre of gravity, the ball stuck to the feet. I am small myself so I guess I'm just rooting for my guys. I hear you - I'm a gigantor and love seeing a fellow freak perform magic with a football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LFCMadLad 1,735 Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, The Artful Dodger said: It's not a non-sequitur, it's a personal preference. All those players are great, not debatable, but very powerful, fast athletes. They have plenty of skill but aesthetically I find players like Modric, Iniesta, Messi, Mata, Silva and Leon Osman far more elegant on the eye, I suppose it comes from the low centre of gravity, the ball stuck to the feet. I am small myself so I guess I'm just rooting for my guys. Leon Osman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandoEFC 4,835 Posted March 19, 2017 Surprised we're so middling given that Koeman seems to prefer physical players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Palace Fan 1,871 Posted March 19, 2017 Watching Watford yesterday it does seem they only play players of a certain figure. Kaboul, Capoue, Deeney etc. The exciting flair days of Vydra, Abdi, Anya are long gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Bruce Almighty 2,956 Posted March 20, 2017 To be fair Cristiano Ronaldo would not be the player he is today if he didn't come to England as a young weak as piss spotty child and have to bulk up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pig on the Wing 289 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, HoneyNUFC said: To be fair Cristiano Ronaldo would not be the player he is today if he didn't come to England as a young weak as piss spotty child and have to bulk up. Yer but could he do it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke? :ninja: EDIT: Thoroughly disappointed that there's no ninja emoticon. I'll be lodging a formal complaint in due course... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berserker 1,313 Posted March 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, StefBWFC said: Yer but could he do it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke? :ninja: EDIT: Thoroughly disappointed that there's no ninja emoticon. I'll be lodging a formal complaint in due course... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
