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Arsène Wenger to Step Down at End of the Season

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SirBalon

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14 minutes ago, Stan said:

he's hardly slammed the fans then as Dodger said above. what he's said is hardly groundbreaking or worthy of an overreaction. 

 

For me it’s the sentence I selected and not so much everything else at all. My biggest gripe is with the board, major shareholders and Kroenke. Wenger and my problems with him are others. 

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Stan

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Just now, SirBalon said:

For me it’s the sentence I selected and not so much everything else at all. My biggest gripe is with the board, major shareholders and Kroenke. Wenger and my problems with him are others. 

I didn't see that earlier, but again, that's hardly a comment to beat Wenger with a stick for. 

Most big clubs pander to the masses outside of UK where they can get big money in through commercial ventures there or feeding them first.  Because football is a business now, it's seen as a good way to get income, whether we like it or not. 

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SirBalon

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55 minutes ago, Stan said:

I didn't see that earlier, but again, that's hardly a comment to beat Wenger with a stick for. 

Most big clubs pander to the masses outside of UK where they can get big money in through commercial ventures there or feeding them first.  Because football is a business now, it's seen as a good way to get income, whether we like it or not. 

I know clubs do that mate but I don’t need the manager creating excuses for his own faults and using the fact that the fans that don’t go to the games aren’t the ones complaining. 

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Lucas

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Arsene Wenger has a great point to be fair.

How can you say he hasn't when the fans have helped create and promote Arsenal Fan TV, nothing short of car crash entertainment for everyone that isn't Arsenal, across social media over the world.

All Arsenal Fan TV is notorious for is the same idiots relishing their roles as 'mini celebs' and loving the camera time moaning about their club. Everyone else just laughs and thinks what a twat.

Wenger has a lot to take on the chin but he is right. Things like that are never going to help.

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Panna King

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If Arsenal lose in the Europa cup against Alt Madrid, there is no need for Wenger to stay any longer, he should leave with and photographed carrying a brown box with his things back to his car.  He gives no shit about the fans and nor do the club, if they are only worried about Arsenal as a brand abroad.  Fans should just not renew their season tickets also if this is the case. 

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Panna King

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4 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Arsene Wenger has a great point to be fair.

How can you say he hasn't when the fans have helped create and promote Arsenal Fan TV, nothing short of car crash entertainment for everyone that isn't Arsenal, across social media over the world.

All Arsenal Fan TV is notorious for is the same idiots relishing their roles as 'mini celebs' and loving the camera time moaning about their club. Everyone else just laughs and thinks what a twat.

Wenger has a lot to take on the chin but he is right. Things like that are never going to help.

Arsenal fan tv is hardly to blame, plus its just a platform for people who have actually been to the game, they aren't actors that have just been given a script and pushed in front a camera.    Wengers downfall when he started to get battered big the big teams like Man Utd 8-2 and how many other times did this happen against other teams.   

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Dr. Gonzo

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1 hour ago, Lucas said:

Arsene Wenger has a great point to be fair.

How can you say he hasn't when the fans have helped create and promote Arsenal Fan TV, nothing short of car crash entertainment for everyone that isn't Arsenal, across social media over the world.

All Arsenal Fan TV is notorious for is the same idiots relishing their roles as 'mini celebs' and loving the camera time moaning about their club. Everyone else just laughs and thinks what a twat.

Wenger has a lot to take on the chin but he is right. Things like that are never going to help.

Yeah I agree with that.

Arsene Wenger's obviously lost his way in recent seasons, but in his career he's done so much for that club. And even in their shit years, they've had a much better time than so many other clubs in England (and the world) but he's received some very harsh criticism.

And the man is a living legend and to have those fucking idiots at Arsenal Fan TV go on about him as though he's some sort of evil pariah who would never let Arsenal ever enjoy any type of success is pretty uncalled for... considering when he's no longer their manager and you look at his long career, you'll find that Arsenal enjoyed quite a lot of success.

His comments today make it sound like he doesn't want to leave. Which I think means if he had chosen to not resign, he would have been sacked - so this is the board letting him save face and resign and preserve his reputation a bit while leaving the club. And it's sad it's come to this for a man that's an actual legend in English football.

I can't remember, because I was only very young. But when Nottingham Forest went down and Clough resigned, were Forest fans so vocal about their most obvious living legend who'd given them some great decades? I'm not sure at all because I was very young and the internet wasn't as big (was it even out yet?) - but Forest fans now still love Clough, even if the younger ones only caught the shit years at best and have only heard the myths and the legends from their past. Clough lost his way in a much more severe way than Arsene did... but I doubt he ever got the same kind of shite treatment Wenger did.

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Panna King

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5 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Yeah I agree with that.

Arsene Wenger's obviously lost his way in recent seasons, but in his career he's done so much for that club. And even in their shit years, they've had a much better time than so many other clubs in England (and the world) but he's received some very harsh criticism.

And the man is a living legend and to have those fucking idiots at Arsenal Fan TV go on about him as though he's some sort of evil pariah who would never let Arsenal ever enjoy any type of success is pretty uncalled for... considering when he's no longer their manager and you look at his long career, you'll find that Arsenal enjoyed quite a lot of success.

His comments today make it sound like he doesn't want to leave. Which I think means if he had chosen to not resign, he would have been sacked - so this is the board letting him save face and resign and preserve his reputation a bit while leaving the club. And it's sad it's come to this for a man that's an actual legend in English football.

I can't remember, because I was only very young. But when Nottingham Forest went down and Clough resigned, were Forest fans so vocal about their most obvious living legend who'd given them some great decades? I'm not sure at all because I was very young and the internet wasn't as big (was it even out yet?) - but Forest fans now still love Clough, even if the younger ones only caught the shit years at best and have only heard the myths and the legends from their past. Clough lost his way in a much more severe way than Arsene did... but I doubt he ever got the same kind of shite treatment Wenger did.

Yea its definitely the case that Wenger wants to stay, he is obsessed with Arsenal, he really probably wanted to go once he won another league title.  Its time to be realistic and in the past Wenger was always 2 or 3 players short from winning the title but now he is nearly a whole team from winning one.  

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Guest

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I've read that the new manager will only have £50 million unless he can raise more capital from player sells.

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SirBalon

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21 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said:

I've read that the new manager will only have £50 million unless he can raise more capital from player sells.

Yeah we're strapped for cash at Arsenal. :dam:

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Guest

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5 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

Yeah we're strapped for cash at Arsenal. :dam:

I think the next few years will be telling. If the new manager doesn't get backed and then the guy after that suddenly Wenger doesn't look so bad. Because he was so conservative in the transfer market people always said he had money but never spent it. Not saying we don't have money but I don't think our owners want to spend it

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SirBalon

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51 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said:

I think the next few years will be telling. If the new manager doesn't get backed and then the guy after that suddenly Wenger doesn't look so bad. Because he was so conservative in the transfer market people always said he had money but never spent it. Not saying we don't have money but I don't think our owners want to spend it

Mate, people always said he had money because Arsenal many times went public about war chests and even amounts in some cases... Wenger himself stated on various occassions that there was money to spend.  But only a fool would've put all the blame at Wenger's feet because most Arsenal fans that really follow the club very closely know full well that it's more complicated than just Arsene Wenger.

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SirBalon

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It's starting to look like as if Arsene Wenger was indeed forced to resign (sacked in official terms) from his position as Arsenal manager. Arsenal are also going to pay him his final year's salary from what's being said on the grapevine as Wenger has refused to negate it... Nothing new I suppose, managers/coaches do that all the time although with the amount he's been on and the length of time with us coupled with also his undying love for us, maybe an agreement could've been looked into.  Damn... We could've bought another oh his typical bargains from some faraway area of the world. :ph34r:

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12 hours ago, SirBalon said:

Mate, people always said he had money because Arsenal many times went public about war chests and even amounts in some cases... Wenger himself stated on various occassions that there was money to spend.  But only a fool would've put all the blame at Wenger's feet because most Arsenal fans that really follow the club very closely know full well that it's more complicated than just Arsene Wenger.

Can you expand on that a bit more

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SirBalon

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55 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said:

Can you expand on that a bit more

Do you mean get links?

Because I would expect that either just before most summers or in pre-season press conferences or Ivan Gazidis saying that there's money to spend.

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SirBalon

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6 minutes ago, Cicero said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/04/23/new-arsenal-manager-restricted-50m-summer-transfer-budget/

First of all, we have to take into account that it will now be two years since we've been involved in the Champions League which is what brings in the big money amongst other things. Secondly, we all know how Arsenal Football Club (Arsenal PLC Holdings) is run which means that this all makes sense.  Finally, we've spent a lot of money, brought in various players in recent times which means saturation and it's obvious that if a new coach wants to create something himself, then he'll have to hope the technical team manages to get rid of the immense amount of deadwood that we have which won't be easy for two fundamental reasons... Firstly they're on a substantial amount of money and most are mediocre players and secondly, those that are willing to sign them will know we want rid.

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