Administrator Batard Posted July 1, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 1, 2018 You’ve got to hand it to some ex pros and sections of the English media. They know jack shit about football. The bias and uneducated arrogance is astounding. Colombia won’t be a walk over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted July 1, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 1, 2018 Has he been on the sauce again. Embarrassing. Pundits like him are so reactionary. Base their opinions on seeing snippets of one game and not actually analysing the way they play or individuals within. Then get egg on their face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 The only thing that is poor was his choice of words.. Anyone that thinks those players won't be giving 100% on that pitch during the knockouts has MDF between his ears... Is he forgetting this is England they are playing... If anything can go wrong then it probably will, if we don't show them full respect we could end up on a flight home with all the rest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Merson is a helmet. Why Skysports employ him is completely beyond me. Oh wait, he was a popular player that knows fuck all about football. That’s about the criteria these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Actually what he said is that Colombia have been poor, not Colombia are poor. That is hardly that controversial an opinion if at all. Colombia should not have gone through, Senegal deserved to imo. Whenever someone refers to a side as poor it is usually poor by a changeable standard not a universal one. So were Colombia poor by what we expected of them against Senegal? Possibly. Were England poor in the 2nd half against Tunisia despite dominating? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted July 1, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted July 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Harvsky said: Actually what he said is that Colombia have been poor, not Colombia are poor. That is hardly that controversial an opinion if at all. Colombia should not have gone through, Senegal deserved to imo. Whenever someone refers to a side as poor it is usually poor by a changeable standard not a universal one. So were Colombia poor by what we expected of them against Senegal? Possibly. Were England poor in the 2nd half against Tunisia despite dominating? Yes. Amusingly, if that’s the case. It’s not how it’s been reported. Artistic license an all from the tabloids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Harvsky said: Actually what he said is that Colombia have been poor, not Colombia are poor. That is hardly that controversial an opinion if at all. Colombia should not have gone through, Senegal deserved to imo. So basically @Batard was just cherry picking bits out of the whole statement without providing a link either... What a Rascal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, Harvsky said: Actually what he said is that Colombia have been poor, not Colombia are poor. That is hardly that controversial an opinion if at all. Colombia should not have gone through, Senegal deserved to imo. Whenever someone refers to a side as poor it is usually poor by a changeable standard not a universal one. So were Colombia poor by what we expected of them against Senegal? Possibly. Were England poor in the 2nd half against Tunisia despite dominating? Yes. I'd say Japan were the least deserving of the three, based on general play. Colombia are better than Senegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The Artful Dodger said: I'd say Japan were the least deserving of the three, based on general play. Colombia are better than Senegal. I can buy that about Japan, but for me Senegal did not deserve to lose to Colombia on the day. I don't think Colombia could have had any arguments if they had of lost that game 1-0 even. I watched that game hoping Colombia would go out because on paper they were the biggest threat to England from the group, but on the day they really didn't play as well as they should at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 If Merson was still on the white powder, he will be all over Colombia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Harvsky said: Actually what he said is that Colombia have been poor, not Colombia are poor. That is hardly that controversial an opinion if at all. Colombia should not have gone through, Senegal deserved to imo. Colombia have been scraping their way into "next rounds" for a while now. After losing at home to Paraguay, we had the chance to knock them out but we played a terrible game and drew 1-1, seeing us into 5th and them in directly. I think Chile were better than both us and Colombia, as much as I hate to admit it. I can't complain with how things went, but it amazes me that Colombia keep on getting further when they haven't played good football consistently in 3 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Cannabis said: Just realised the quote was from Merson . Comfortably the worst pundit on Sky Sports, just behind Phil Thompson. Thompson was voted the worst pundit on tv. He is awful I think a lot of people on here could do better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 10 hours ago, Bluewolf said: The only thing that is poor was his choice of words.. Anyone that thinks those players won't be giving 100% on that pitch during the knockouts has MDF between his ears... Is he forgetting this is England they are playing... If anything can go wrong then it probably will, if we don't show them full respect we could end up on a flight home with all the rest.. To be fair a lot of teams get accused of not giving everything during the knock outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Blue said: Colombia have been scraping their way into "next rounds" for a while now. After losing at home to Paraguay, we had the chance to knock them out but we played a terrible game and drew 1-1, seeing us into 5th and them in directly. I think Chile were better than both us and Colombia, as much as I hate to admit it. I can't complain with how things went, but it amazes me that Colombia keep on getting further when they haven't played good football consistently in 3 years now. I agree they´re inconsistent and perhaps it´s time for Miguel Borja to start in the place of Falcao, but man, when James and Juanfer Quintero are on their days, they´re a tough team to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, El Profesor said: I agree they´re inconsistent and perhaps it´s time for Miguel Borja to start in the place of Falcao, but man, when James and Juanfer Quintero are on their days, they´re a tough team to beat. Colombia's defence have gotten them this far. Davinson Sanchez and Yerry Mina are very effective, but in attack they look clueless. I think this is down to Falcao playing as a lone striker which has been shown to not work, and Pekerman insists. I'm glad they've decided to find an attacking midfield partnership but that wasn't the big issue at hand. Not sure if Miguel Borja is the solution. I've always seen him more as a player that needed a lot of space to score 1 every 5 chances. He may have developed at Palmeiras but I wasn't a big fan when he was at Atletico Nacional. That said, Carlos Bacca is definitely not the solution. One thing Colombia is missing is Teo Gutierrez. I've never been a very big fan of him but Pekerman insisted and I kind of see why now. He's very different to what Falcao and Bacca were and could work as a lone striker. I'm not convinced this was the reason they succeeded in 2014, there were more underlying factors like a better game plan, more dynamic full backs and an on form Yepes which also allowed more leadership. Ospina back then was also one of the best keepers in the world. Now he's a shadow of what he once was. They have a lot of quality and for me are better on paper than England, but I'm not sure what happened to Pekerman. He experiments too much and can't decide on a lineup. And when they do click one game all of the sudden, they stick with the lineup only to perform poorly in the next game and then going back to the drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 18 hours ago, Blue said: Colombia's defence have gotten them this far. Davinson Sanchez and Yerry Mina are very effective, but in attack they look clueless. I think this is down to Falcao playing as a lone striker which has been shown to not work, and Pekerman insists. I'm glad they've decided to find an attacking midfield partnership but that wasn't the big issue at hand. Not sure if Miguel Borja is the solution. I've always seen him more as a player that needed a lot of space to score 1 every 5 chances. He may have developed at Palmeiras but I wasn't a big fan when he was at Atletico Nacional. That said, Carlos Bacca is definitely not the solution. One thing Colombia is missing is Teo Gutierrez. I've never been a very big fan of him but Pekerman insisted and I kind of see why now. He's very different to what Falcao and Bacca were and could work as a lone striker. I'm not convinced this was the reason they succeeded in 2014, there were more underlying factors like a better game plan, more dynamic full backs and an on form Yepes which also allowed more leadership. Ospina back then was also one of the best keepers in the world. Now he's a shadow of what he once was. They have a lot of quality and for me are better on paper than England, but I'm not sure what happened to Pekerman. He experiments too much and can't decide on a lineup. And when they do click one game all of the sudden, they stick with the lineup only to perform poorly in the next game and then going back to the drawing board. Agree about the defence. The Davinson-Mina partnership is really good and Mina is a huge threat on set pieces. He´s been Colombia best player in this World Cup, along with Quintero. I don´t think they´re missing Teo. The guy from Junior that Pékerman should have called is Yimmi Chará and not him. Having a guy like Chará in the bench to play fully rested with his level of commitment and intensity would´ve been big for Colombia. I´d also have called Edwin Cardona. Borja is what he is. He is not brilliant, but he works his socks off upfront and at this point, I´d have him over Radamel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, El Profesor said: Agree about the defence. The Davinson-Mina partnership is really good and Mina is a huge threat on set pieces. He´s been Colombia best player in this World Cup, along with Quntero. I don´t think they´re missing Teo. The guy from Junior that Pékerman should have called is Yimmi Chará and not him. Having a guy like Chará in the bench to play fully rested with his level of commitment and intensity would´ve been big for Colombia. I´d also have called Edwin Cardona. Borja is what he is. He is not brilliant, but he works his socks off upfront and at this point, I´d have him over Radamel. Chara is great, he was good for Colombia too in the last bit of the qualifiers. Surprised he wasn't called up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 This won't be easy, especially given England's bad record against South American opposition in the knock outs of the tournament, although this Colombia team aren't like they were 4 years ago and are a lot more beatable, while the English team look in their best position in years. England are the favourite but the Colombians shouldn't be underestimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Hardly poor, i even believe England will struggle against them. One off match both teams will go all out. However as stated above Merson is an tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Merson should give up punditry and stick to what he’s good at: slowly killing himself with his alcoholism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 5 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Merson should give up punditry and stick to what he’s good at: slowly killing himself with his alcoholism. And cocaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Merson was spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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