SirBalon Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 I think you meant Gianluigi Buffon mate and not Jenson Button In my opinion no because I already complained about how Cristiano Ronaldo won it last year and if I said yes then all the reasons I put would be for nothing and biassed. There is only one winner for the next Ballon d'Or which is an individual award for the best individual throughout the year... Right now there is only one player head and shoulders above every other. You can't award this for what the collective have achieved and when you've been good (sort of) for three games all year.
Honey Honey Posted May 14, 2017 Author Posted May 14, 2017 Lol did it say button? That's auto correct for you it is the burden of my life, constantly calling people by the wrong name
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted May 14, 2017 Subscriber Posted May 14, 2017 Just get the man a Champions League trophy and even he will go Ballon De What?
Cure Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 There's no doubt Buffon is one of the best goalkeeper to have played the beautiful game. He's been so strong this season in the league and in the Champions League we've been treated to some equally outstanding performances. For a man fast approaching a milestone in his life he's shining far above the rest and proving that age is just a number. Lev Yashin is the only keeper to have won the award. I feel it's time for Buffon to get it. I feel it'll be closely contested with Messi. He's had a brilliant season too and D'or tends to favour goalscorers. Fingers crossed he'll be beaten just this once.
SirBalon Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Juve have been totally a collective success this season and nobody's stood out as the all inspiring individual. If anything the in quarters and the semis of the Champions League the star man was Dani Alves who seems to have rejuvenated himself. But you can't win an award that consists of 12 months on the fact you were very good in three or four games when a season with a club playing in all competitions can reach anything upto 70 odd games.
Eco Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Give it to him, he should already have one and it's crazy to think he hasn't gotten one yet. He's the GOAT.
SirBalon Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 7 hours ago, ATL said: Give it to him, he should already have one Really? When? Why?
Eco Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 4 hours ago, SirBalon said: Really? When? Why? 2006 for one. Cannavaro won based on his outstanding WC performance, whereas Buffon was legend in the WC and in League Play that year. He probably won't though, as it seems only Ronaldo or Messi can win it anymore. If it were up to me, I'd switch it up this year and give it to someone else, and someone like Buffon (especially if they do the treble), is beyond deserving of this award. Just because he doesn't score goals doesn't mean he's not the greatest player.
Harry Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 Give it to Buffon. Sure. Fuck. Give it to Joey Barton or Lee Cattermole for all i care. Just not Messi and Ronaldo.
SirBalon Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 2 hours ago, ATL said: 2006 for one. Cannavaro won based on his outstanding WC performance, whereas Buffon was legend in the WC and in League Play that year. He probably won't though, as it seems only Ronaldo or Messi can win it anymore. If it were up to me, I'd switch it up this year and give it to someone else, and someone like Buffon (especially if they do the treble), is beyond deserving of this award. Just because he doesn't score goals doesn't mean he's not the greatest player. Mate, I have no problem whatsoever in Buffon getting the award for all the reasons stated and the fact he's also a model character within the sport which for me is also important. But he hasn't done anything to merit it this year above others that can be named. I don't see the collective victories as a reason to award someone an individual award.
Cicero Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 If they win the treble Buffon should most definitely be a shoe in. Considering if Juve do win the Champions League, the entire limelight will be around Gigi
Eco Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Cicero said: If they win the treble Buffon should most definitely be a shoe in. Considering if Juve do win the Champions League, the entire limelight will be around Gigi This. If Juve when the treble, you have to give it to their captain and leader.
Guest Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Cicero said: If they win the treble Buffon should most definitely be a shoe in. Considering if Juve do win the Champions League, the entire limelight will be around Gigi Or Ronaldo will win it for scoring more goals. Just like Neuer should have been in 2014. Personally I think Bonucci should win it but that's just me.
Cure Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, LaSambadeStGermain said: Or Ronaldo will win it for scoring more goals. Just like Neuer should have been in 2014. Personally I think Bonucci should win it but that's just me.
Asura Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 Scrap the Balon D'or totally, no single player deserves it
Spike Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 How many saves does he have to make a game? Not that many, because Juve's defence is beyond ridiculous. He may be the best GK in the world but the way Juve is set up Gigi is not an irreplaceable option. The Balon d'Or should be given to the individual that brings their team to the next level. Look at Barcelona and Juventus. Barca consistently look far more lost without Andres Iniesta than Juve does without Buffon. Their roles are incomparable but the fact remains that Barcelona is crippled without Iniesta but the same isn't the same for Juve. Who is the better player? That cannot be decided as one is a midfielder and one is a goalkeeper, it's the same for any playesr that occupy entirely different roles. What can be decided is which player is more instrumental to the team's success.
Guest Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Spike said: How many saves does he have to make a game? Not that many, because Juve's defence is beyond ridiculous. He may be the best GK in the world but the way Juve is set up Gigi is not an irreplaceable option. The Balon d'Or should be given to the individual that brings their team to the next level. Look at Barcelona and Juventus. Barca consistently look far more lost without Andres Iniesta than Juve does without Buffon. Their roles are incomparable but the fact remains that Barcelona is crippled without Iniesta but the same isn't the same for Juve. Who is the better player? That cannot be decided as one is a midfielder and one is a goalkeeper, it's the same for any playesr that occupy entirely different roles. What can be decided is which player is more instrumental to the team's success. This. Not only that but Buffon has been more prone to howlers in the league. As I said I think Bonucci deserves it if anyone on Juve. The whole backline has been important but the stand out has been Bonucci to me.
Cicero Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Spike said: How many saves does he have to make a game? Not that many, because Juve's defence is beyond ridiculous. He may be the best GK in the world but the way Juve is set up Gigi is not an irreplaceable option. The Balon d'Or should be given to the individual that brings their team to the next level. Look at Barcelona and Juventus. Barca consistently look far more lost without Andres Iniesta than Juve does without Buffon. Their roles are incomparable but the fact remains that Barcelona is crippled without Iniesta but the same isn't the same for Juve. Who is the better player? That cannot be decided as one is a midfielder and one is a goalkeeper, it's the same for any playesr that occupy entirely different roles. What can be decided is which player is more instrumental to the team's success. It's great,, but not impenetrable. Barca and Monaco both created enough chances where they could of gotten something out of each tie, The Iniesta chance springs instantly into mind as well as Falcao's missed chances both legs.
Spike Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, Cicero said: It's great,, but not impenetrable. Barca and Monaco both created enough chances where they could of gotten something out of each tie, The Iniesta chance springs instantly into mind as well as Falcao's missed chances both legs. A miss isn't a save!
Cicero Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Spike said: A miss isn't a save! The Iniesta chance and Falcao chances were both denied by incredible saves
Machado Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 Buffon is the best GK in the world. I'm now an hipster.
Spike Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Cicero said: The Iniesta chance and Falcao chances were both denied by incredible saves Two incredible saves aren't enough for the best player in the world.
Cicero Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Spike said: Two incredible saves aren't enough for the best player in the world. *three, and those were just off the top of my head. This idea that Juve has some brick wall of a defence holds some truth but any top quality side will create chances, which both Barca and Monaco did plenty of and were both shut out by Buffon. The award hasn't held it's value for a long time now. If Juve do win the title I still believe the limelight will be shifted towards Buffon, and that would be a breath of fresh air.
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