Administrator Batard Posted May 29, 2017 Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2017 Enjoyed that debate to be fair, but it's the wrong thread. I'd like to see this argument continue in the Everton thread if you're still game. First person to say 'Cunt' loses the debate and has to change his username to King Raheem for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Madlad is spot on though - Sterling would walk into the Everton, who's better than him exactly? He had a good season for City and although he's still got some weaknesses in his game, he's a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I think to call a 22 year old, who has hit double figures in each of his last four seasons, 'wank' or 'average' is madness. It's easy to forget that he's still young with plenty of time to improve. Maybe he hasn't progressed as much as he should have and is still inconsistent but he's still a very useful player for Man City and would be for any side in this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Other than Chelsea I can't see a side in the league Sterling wouldn't walk into and even then he'd get a lot of game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted May 29, 2017 Author Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2017 ... We continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 On his day he is very good. For some reason 'his day' hasn't been nearly enough for city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted May 29, 2017 Author Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2017 He's a top 6 team player, but he needs a strong manager to kick him up the arse. I actually think someone like Koeman would be a good man manager for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I think 10 goals and 21 assists in 47 games is exactly the type of numbers you'd want from a winger. It also suggests his end product is improving which was something he was criticised for when he first broke through. I don't want to say much more for fear of letting myself down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted May 29, 2017 Author Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2017 Personally, I do actually believe he'd be a good addition to any club with the exception of Tottenham, Arsenal and United. I do believe with a strong manager like Koeman you'd see more from consistency from him. To that end. I could see him being a more than effective player at Everton. Come at me bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK85 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Nothing special, which can be said for a lot of wingers in this league. There's only really one top class one and that's Hazard. I wouldn't even say he's better than Sane, Mane, Pedro, Mahrez (he still playing wide?). He's in that next bracket down. Got plenty of time to progress though and he's under a good manager for him to do that, if he can get games next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 33 minutes ago, Danny said: Other than Chelsea I can't see a side in the league Sterling wouldn't walk into and even then he'd get a lot of game time. Well he wouldn't get in our side...but he'd be a great squad option would play a lot of games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: I think 10 goals and 21 assists in 47 games is exactly the type of numbers you'd want from a winger. It also suggests his end product is improving which was something he was criticised for when he first broke through. I don't want to say much more for fear of letting myself down Watch yourself or you're going to get a smacked bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted May 29, 2017 Author Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Storts said: Watch yourself or you're going to get a smacked bottom I hope you're saving a smack for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Batard said: I hope you're saving a smack for me I've got something else lined up for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted May 29, 2017 Author Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2017 Just now, Storts said: I've got something else lined up for you You're going to dress as Raheem Sterling in an Everton kit? Props to myself here for subverting my own thread. You may administer TWO smacks for me ... and the kinky stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Any hype player runs the risk of polarizing people's views based on a reaction to the hype more than the player himself. Its a huge factor with English players in particular. Sterling is a very good player with great potential. A good man manager that could help him to build his game further will be great for him and for England. Not sure if Pep is ideal in that as gut feel he's the type of manager to work his hardest with players that fit his traditional mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 29, 2017 Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2017 I rate him. There's 2 unlikeable things about him though. One being his decision-making can be a bit questionable at times. Like how Jesus Navas can be but Sterling is obviously a better option than him. And the good thing for Sterling is that this can be rectified and improved upon. Gotta remember he is only 22 so has plenty of time to become even better than he is. The other thing is his running style which is like something out of the Flintstones . Don't think that'll change as he gets older though. Like others have said, he'd get in to the majority of sides in the Premier League, including Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 He's definitely improved under Guardiola. He seems to do well when he doesn't get a lot of time to think about things. At Liverpool there was sometimes the feeling that he was being looked to all the time do make something happen. He makes clever runs in behind and can beat a man quickly, and playing as a more kind of traditional winger under Guardiola has allowed to him to focus on those qualities. Rather than overthinking every time the ball comes to him, he can just put in a quick cross or cut-back, or arrive in the box for a tap-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 1 hour ago, LFCMadLad said: I think 10 goals and 21 assists in 47 games is exactly the type of numbers you'd want from a winger. It also suggests his end product is improving which was something he was criticised for when he first broke through. I don't want to say much more for fear of letting myself down Wow, I had no idea that was his stat-line this season. You won't find to many wingers with production levels like that, you couldn't really ask for more. To contribute to 31 goals across a season is very impressive. I think Raheem is a very good player already and will push on even more. He has been very good this season and I'm sure he will continue to progress under Pep. It's ridiculous to claim he is shite, you don't consistently play for two of the best teams in the league at his age if you're bang average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Technically he's quite poor - finishing, dribbling, crossing - but he gets away with a lot because of his pace. There's no problem with that, but it does mean that he'll never be the main man in a top team, because if you defend deep against, him he's fucked. Also what is this nonsense that he'd walk into any team in the league bar Chelsea? He won't walk into City's team now (hence this discussion) and he wouldn't get in the first XI for Tottenham or Liverpool. That's all of the top 4, which I believe was the point of the comment that started all of this. 14 minutes ago, Chaaay AFC said: Wow, I had no idea that was his stat-line this season. You won't find to many wingers with production levels like that, you couldn't really ask for more. To contribute to 31 goals across a season is very impressive. I think Raheem is a very good player already and will push on even more. He has been very good this season and I'm sure he will continue to progress under Pep. It's ridiculous to claim he is shite, you don't consistently play for two of the best teams in the league at his age if you're bang average. It's not. I don't know where MadLad's got that from but he scored 10 and assisted 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Burning Gold said: Technically he's quite poor - finishing, dribbling, crossing - but he gets away with a lot because of his pace. There's no problem with that, but it does mean that he'll never be the main man in a top team, because if you defend deep against, him he's fucked. Also what is this nonsense that he'd walk into any team in the league bar Chelsea? He won't walk into City's team now (hence this discussion) and he wouldn't get in the first XI for Tottenham or Liverpool. That's all of the top 4, which I believe was the point of the comment that started all of this. It's not. I don't know where MadLad's got that from but he scored 10 and assisted 9. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/raheem-sterling/profil/spieler/134425 Pretty clear it's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Raheem is still clearly a very talented boy. However with the way football is going I hope he's not naive enough to keep focusing on what he's good at and considers learning another position, whether it's full back or just behind two forwards, as pacey wingers are slowly not being used as much as they were a couple of years ago. At the moment I wouldn't have him in the England squad because as a system I think Kane and Alli up top with Lallana behind would work best. That's why it seems important that he becomes versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Chaaay AFC said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/raheem-sterling/profil/spieler/134425 Pretty clear it's right. My bad. Whoscored.com says 10/9 but doesn't count assists from some competitions for no good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted May 29, 2017 Author Administrator Share Posted May 29, 2017 59 minutes ago, Stan said: I rate him. There's 2 unlikeable things about him though. One being his decision-making can be a bit questionable at times. Like how Jesus Navas can be but Sterling is obviously a better option than him. And the good thing for Sterling is that this can be rectified and improved upon. Gotta remember he is only 22 so has plenty of time to become even better than he is. The other thing is his running style which is like something out of the Flintstones . Don't think that'll change as he gets older though. Like others have said, he'd get in to the majority of sides in the Premier League, including Everton. Hmmmm, I'm still of the mind the question here is, how good is Sterling is perceived rather than how people rate him ... As an extension, how good could Sterling be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 7.5/10. Would bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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