Darwin Nunez joins Liverpool

[LFCMadLad]

Shit source but rumours going around we have agreed terms?

https://www.footballfancast.com/liverpool-transfer-rumours/transfer-focus-liverpool-agree-terms-nunez-benfica

 

That's definitely one of Salah, Mane or Firmino going then!

My guess is Salah. 

[Spike]

2 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said:

 

That's definitely one of Salah, Mane or Firmino going then!

My guess is Salah. 

That is a bit of an overreaction, no?

[LFCMadLad]

Just now, Spike said:

That is a bit of an overreaction, no?

They are all out of contract next summer. Salah has been told we won't improve the contract we have offered him. Mane and Firmino haven't been offered new terms yet. Jota, Diaz and now maybe Nunez have been brought in.

I'd say one of them is off yes. 

[Spike]

1 minute ago, LFCMadLad said:

They are all out of contract next summer. Salah has been told we won't improve the contract we have offered him. Mane and Firmino haven't been offered new terms yet. Jota, Diaz and now maybe Nunez have been brought in.

I'd say one of them is off yes. 

Your club is too tight. Top five richest clubs in the world too stingy to renew one of the best players in the world. Sad stuff if I were Liverpool fan.

[LFCMadLad]

Just now, Spike said:

Your club is too tight. Top five richest clubs in the world too stingy to renew one of the best players in the world. Sad stuff if I were Liverpool fan.

I think Mane and Firmino will extend. Salah is different though.. he is wanting a contract of around £400k a week until he's 35 years old.

Not happening at this club and rightly so.

[Spike]

Just now, LFCMadLad said:

I think Mane and Firmino will extend. Salah is different though.. he is wanting a contract of around £400k a week until he's 35 years old.

Not happening at this club and rightly so.

Maybe, but players are good regardless of age, if he is good 75% of that contract and Liverpool keep winning, I'd say it's worth it. It's not like Liverpool are hard up for cash, they won't go belly up like Derby.

When I still liked them, the Chicago Cubs wouldn't renew all their generational players that won them the first championship in 108 years, 'too expensive and we don't have enough money'... yeah right only half a billion income p/a.

[LFCMadLad]

20 minutes ago, Spike said:

Maybe, but players are good regardless of age, if he is good 75% of that contract and Liverpool keep winning, I'd say it's worth it. It's not like Liverpool are hard up for cash, they won't go belly up like Derby.

When I still liked them, the Chicago Cubs wouldn't renew all their generational players that won them the first championship in 108 years, 'too expensive and we don't have enough money'... yeah right only half a billion income p/a.

It wouldn't stop at Salah though if we gave in to his demands. We have a strict wage budget and a very successful transfer policy and I personally like that.

If we shattered our wage budget policy on Salah then Allison, VVD, Trent, Roberton, Fabinho, Mane etc would all want massively improved wages. That's when the trouble starts.

I'm perfectly happy personally with letting Salah go if he can't accept the terms he has been offered. Klopp is obviously signing players for the future and he has obviously earned the trust of everyone that he can carry on making us successful. 

If Salah wants to earn more money by going to PSG then he's earned that right and will leave as a club legend. 

Or he could earn slightly less and carry on being worshipped here at Liverpool. 

It's up to him.

[Spike]

13 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said:

It wouldn't stop at Salah though if we gave in to his demands. We have a strict wage budget and a very successful transfer policy and I personally like that.

If we shattered our wage budget policy on Salah then Allison, VVD, Trent, Roberton, Fabinho, Mane etc would all want massively improved wages. That's when the trouble starts.

I'm perfectly happy personally with letting Salah go if he can't accept the terms he has been offered. Klopp is obviously signing players for the future and he has obviously earned the trust of everyone that he can carry on making us successful. 

If Salah wants to earn more money by going to PSG then he's earned that right and will leave as a club legend. 

Or he could earn slightly less and carry on being worshipped here at Liverpool. 

It's up to him.

If Liverpool won five leagues in a row, it'd be worth it. Only takes a couple of bad seasons to turn a dynasty into a dump.

[Cicero]

We've been linked too but I'd rather Gabriel Jesus if the rumors are true he wants out. 

[OrangeKhrush]

4 hours ago, Spike said:

Maybe, but players are good regardless of age, if he is good 75% of that contract and Liverpool keep winning, I'd say it's worth it. It's not like Liverpool are hard up for cash, they won't go belly up like Derby.

When I still liked them, the Chicago Cubs wouldn't renew all their generational players that won them the first championship in 108 years, 'too expensive and we don't have enough money'... yeah right only half a billion income p/a.

That's what the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim did when they signed Albert Pujols to a 350m / 10 year deal at age 31.   At the time of signing he had just won with the cardinals and was largely regarded the best in Baseball.    His fall away was hard.   Investing huge money past 28 year of age is going to end in diminishing returns.   Even at 75% it is still a loss of 25% for 4 years. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Not gonna believe it til I see it said by one of the journos that's actually accurate about our transfer news. Which tbh isn't really likely until we're on the cusp of signing any player.

I doubt there's anything in this story really. Seems like Klopp's praised the player we've recently come up against and some journo's just taken that and come up with a story for the clicks - or something along those lines.

[OrangeKhrush]

7 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Not gonna believe it til I see it said by one of the journos that's actually accurate about our transfer news. Which tbh isn't really likely until we're on the cusp of signing any player.

I doubt there's anything in this story really. Seems like Klopp's praised the player we've recently come up against and some journo's just taken that and come up with a story for the clicks - or something along those lines.

the last time Liverpool signed a striker that did well against them was Andy Carroll

[Inverted]

Losing Salah and signing Nunez doesn't seem to make much sense. 

Mane, Firmino, and Jota are all good options already at centre forward, and none of Liverpool's other forwards are the same type of player as Salah.

If they lose Salah, I would have thought they would look for another left-footer who can cut inside from the right.

[LFCMike]

 

[Rick]

Will we splash the big money on somebody again this season? Been a while since we heavily invested in one single player. I don’t know how good this lad is, he was good against us but 85m is most of our transfer budget you’d have thought so it struggle to see this happening. Not unless we get decent money for Mane, Ox, Williams and Phillips. 

[LFCMike]

 

[Cicero]

Thoughts on the ridiculous price amount @LFCMadLad?

[Dr. Gonzo]

These fees are crazy as fuck 

[Viva la FCB+]

That seems like an absolutely mental sum. 

[Rick]

80m is the new 30m. 

[LFCMadLad]

28 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Thoughts on the ridiculous price amount @LFCMadLad?

Will be offset by sales mostly, barring £30m or so. 

It's a large fee but we have spent fuck all over the past 3 years so a heavy investment on a 22 Yr old with massive potential is probably the going rate. 

[Stan]

3 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said:

but we have spent fuck all over the past 3 years

Jota & Diaz at £40m each, Konate at £35m, Thiago £20m not count?

 

[Mel81x+]

The only way this happens is if we get a good deal on Mane, Taki and a few others and that still doesn't cover the fee we're willing to negotiate for Nunez. Still, he was good on the day and I remember someone saying he goes through these phases and if we get him only time will tell.

Every time we sign a player there seems to be speculation either about the price or whether that player will improve us. Salah, Bobby, Andy, etc. weren't all top players when they came in but within a system they really started to grow better. I think the same could be applied here even if that price looks inflated. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

11 minutes ago, Mel81x said:

The only way this happens is if we get a good deal on Mane, Taki and a few others and that still doesn't cover the fee we're willing to negotiate for Nunez. Still, he was good on the day and I remember someone saying he goes through these phases and if we get him only time will tell.

Every time we sign a player there seems to be speculation either about the price or whether that player will improve us. Salah, Bobby, Andy, etc. weren't all top players when they came in but within a system they really started to grow better. I think the same could be applied here even if that price looks inflated. 

Think we might be actually splashing the cash here if it's true it's a player Klopp really wants and it's looking plausible that league rivals in the league are on the cusp of making a move for him - like with Diaz.

I will say from our CL tie against Benfica, while Nunez looks raw... he also looked like a player that would fit in pretty well with a Klopp team. Having said that, I thought the same thing about Minamino and while I don't think he's been bad (especially for the price) he didn't quite slot in as nicely I thought he would.

But if we've got Diaz - Jota - Salah as our main front 3 going into the season, we can afford to be patient with a big signing being bedded in.

[Mel81x+]

10 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Think we might be actually splashing the cash here if it's true it's a player Klopp really wants and it's looking plausible that league rivals in the league are on the cusp of making a move for him - like with Diaz.

I will say from our CL tie against Benfica, while Nunez looks raw... he also looked like a player that would fit in pretty well with a Klopp team. Having said that, I thought the same thing about Minamino and while I don't think he's been bad (especially for the price) he didn't quite slot in as nicely I thought he would.

But if we've got Diaz - Jota - Salah as our main front 3 going into the season, we can afford to be patient with a big signing being bedded in.

I don't really doubt what Klopp wants because he has proven he can adapt to what is given to him every single time he's given a chance to get someone. I think players like Keita and Minamino have not lived up to expectations (one really just hadn't had a clean run and the other just never lived up to those CL games) but then you've got others to offset these which has been the saving grace. Losing Mane and perhaps even Salah now would leave some bigger gaps to fill in the attack system and with Diaz I think we're safe but Jota is also a bit hit and miss at times and that is the worrying factor here. Buying a player like Nunez gives us someone who will work in the system but if the other two leave I think there's more gaps to fill that one player alone can't sort out.