Administrator Stan Posted December 28, 2022 Administrator Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said: time for a good 2 year ban on Chelsea for definite FFP violations, they have spent 500m in 3 years prior to this season, they spent 230ish so far and Nkunku, Santos is probably another 80m, Bendiashile is 35m and now Enzo. UEFA and the FA need to make examples of anti competitive and reckless spending, that or drop the ffp rubbish and let everyone go ham Presume you'll be saying the same in a few years time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Stan said: Presume you'll be saying the same in a few years time... yes, rules are there for fair competition, to limit or prevent "buying the league on credit" Chelsea do not have the money in the club, in Avramovich's years Chelsea registered 1 positive gross turnover of a whopping 10million they averaged around 50m losses per season. If wealthy owners can flush wealth into the club it creates a situation of talent hoarding and if the wealthy owners leave, the clubs are financially ruined. imagine if we can use the PIFs wealth to pay Mbappe 5m a week, Kvaratskhelia 2m a week it will create inflated markets and unfair competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted December 28, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted December 28, 2022 When deals like this happen too early it can turn a players head (not like anything concrete has been called out anyways). Hopefully the same thing doesn't happen here because I'd like to see him do well considering how well Benfica are doing this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said: yes, rules are there for fair competition, to limit or prevent "buying the league on credit" Chelsea do not have the money in the club, in Avramovich's years Chelsea registered 1 positive gross turnover of a whopping 10million they averaged around 50m losses per season. If wealthy owners can flush wealth into the club it creates a situation of talent hoarding and if the wealthy owners leave, the clubs are financially ruined. imagine if we can use the PIFs wealth to pay Mbappe 5m a week, Kvaratskhelia 2m a week it will create inflated markets and unfair competition Did Boehly tell you that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I don't think Benfica will be to keen on selling him for anything less than his release clause if they're going to cash in on him after the World Cup. I think a lot of clubs are sounding out Benfica's resolve to lower the fee, but I don't think they will - and why should they? He's just had a massive World Cup and if a club is that desperate to buy him they probably can pay the release clause. But I do think a lot of clubs are hoping he won't make any moves in January so they can use the months of the window being closed between February & the summer to try to negotiate a better deal for Benfica - hoping Benfica will be willing to consider a lower price as it wouldn't be interfering with whatever plans they have for the current season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I don't think Benfica will be to keen on selling him for anything less than his release clause if they're going to cash in on him after the World Cup. I think a lot of clubs are sounding out Benfica's resolve to lower the fee, but I don't think they will - and why should they? He's just had a massive World Cup and if a club is that desperate to buy him they probably can pay the release clause. But I do think a lot of clubs are hoping he won't make any moves in January so they can use the months of the window being closed between February & the summer to try to negotiate a better deal for Benfica - hoping Benfica will be willing to consider a lower price as it wouldn't be interfering with whatever plans they have for the current season. they aren't desperate for money either, they have champions league and Darwin Nunez money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I don't think Benfica will be to keen on selling him for anything less than his release clause if they're going to cash in on him after the World Cup. I think a lot of clubs are sounding out Benfica's resolve to lower the fee, but I don't think they will - and why should they? He's just had a massive World Cup and if a club is that desperate to buy him they probably can pay the release clause. But I do think a lot of clubs are hoping he won't make any moves in January so they can use the months of the window being closed between February & the summer to try to negotiate a better deal for Benfica - hoping Benfica will be willing to consider a lower price as it wouldn't be interfering with whatever plans they have for the current season. I will be surprised if he goes for less then 100million in todays market, anything less is just chucking money away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Happy Blue said: I will be surprised if he goes for less then 100million in todays market, anything less is just chucking money away benfica should ask for Coutinho money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said: benfica should ask for Coutinho money He has a clause lower than that. About £105m I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: He has a clause lower than that. About £105m I think? they should hold out until activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Benfica sporting director Rui Costa is pretty adamant that they will not let Enzo go in January unless the full release clause is met. Reports on our end are claiming we are looking to do a similar thing with Nkunku, where the club are prepared to pay above the asking price (release clause) for a more favorable installment plan, as paying the full release clause in January would cause FFP issues. Think in terms of a outbidding, we stand a chance but its persuading the player himself that provides the difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 His value while at Benfica won't be as high as it is now and they'll regret it if they try and hold out for too much right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, 6666 said: His value while at Benfica won't be as high as it is now and they'll regret it if they try and hold out for too much right now. We are talking about a 1100% profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 14 hours ago, Cicero said: Benfica sporting director Rui Costa is pretty adamant that they will not let Enzo go in January unless the full release clause is met. Reports on our end are claiming we are looking to do a similar thing with Nkunku, where the club are prepared to pay above the asking price (release clause) for a more favorable installment plan, as paying the full release clause in January would cause FFP issues. Think in terms of a outbidding, we stand a chance but its persuading the player himself that provides the difficulty. makes sense, just whip out the ol credit card financial plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeadLinesman Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Fucking hell. Prices remain ridiculous. He’s done fuck all to warrant that tag. However, Benfica will be laughing all the way to the bank. Just like Ajax with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: Fucking hell. Prices remain ridiculous. He’s done fuck all to warrant that tag. However, Benfica will be laughing all the way to the bank. Just like Ajax with us. Club is desperate to inject some quality in midfield and despite how good Tuchel is, at least Potter recognises our midfield is a shambles. Tuchel ignored the midfield for 2 years. I also read the 10m Benfica spent for him is a bit misleading given how fucked the Argentine peso is. Add Julian Alvarez to that. In reality, Enzo would've probably cost something similar to Endrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted December 30, 2022 Administrator Share Posted December 30, 2022 Why do Chelsea get all the best players ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Stan said: Why do Chelsea get all the best players ? Do you want Havertz, Pulisic, Aubameyang or Ziyech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted December 30, 2022 Administrator Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cicero said: Do you want Havertz, Pulisic, Aubameyang or Ziyech? I'd definitely take Ziyech & Pulisic. Can they play LB or CB ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Stan said: Why do Chelsea get all the best players ? Money talks, but apparently only if you are in the protected species list can you spend money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Someone please bookmark Orange's posts so we can have a nice laugh when, not if, when Newcastle start spending loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Fernandez was brilliant at the World Cup, one of Argentina's rising stars. Can't say I've seen him much at Benfica though so not sure what the price should be, but clubs are always going to bump the price after a World Cup. Based off of his contributions in Qatar I think he would suit Chelsea well, they need more players centrally who can not only defend but can also pass through defensive lines. He would definitely compliment Mount, Sterling, Havertz etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted December 30, 2022 Administrator Share Posted December 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, Cicero said: Someone please bookmark Orange's posts so we can have a nice laugh when, not if, when Newcastle start spending loads. Precisely this. What I've been trying to get at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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