Administrator Stan Posted May 23 Administrator Share Posted May 23 https://x.com/LucasPaqueta97/status/1793659069741625449?t=BfwV2qzf23PiZ7EfpoqPxA&s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 23 Author Administrator Share Posted May 23 https://x.com/henrywinter/status/1793665203529232720?t=C0AVbMawp-OIo1fbsGqOQA&s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Denies charges. Will fit well at City. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 So he will be staying at West Ham then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 23 Author Administrator Share Posted May 23 https://x.com/leafricangooner/status/1793685484868354315?t=TaKje8mQ8WFvnZTa5pxDWw&s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Think there should be a pretty harsh ban if they can prove he'd placed bets on getting a yellow in these matches and then actually did get a yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 How do they prove that he was intentionally looking to get booked for the purpose of gambling? Are the incidents that obviously dodgy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 11 minutes ago, Stan said: https://x.com/leafricangooner/status/1793685484868354315?t=TaKje8mQ8WFvnZTa5pxDWw&s=19 If he wasn't being charged, no one would think anything of these incidents other than he's a bit rash. So the incidents by themselves don't really reveal too much. Will be interesting to see the evidence The FA have as that's probably much more damning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 23 Author Administrator Share Posted May 23 8 minutes ago, 6666 said: If he wasn't being charged, no one would think anything of these incidents other than he's a bit rash. So the incidents by themselves don't really reveal too much. Will be interesting to see the evidence The FA have as that's probably much more damning. That must be part of the evidence, surely? As in they're literally 4 of the offences referenced by the FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 40 minutes ago, Stan said: That must be part of the evidence, surely? As in they're literally 4 of the offences referenced by the FA. That can't be all there is though as it doesn't say much. If they have evidence of him betting that he'll get a yellow or anything like that, then it's a wrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 23 Author Administrator Share Posted May 23 3 hours ago, Stan said: https://x.com/henrywinter/status/1793665203529232720?t=C0AVbMawp-OIo1fbsGqOQA&s=19 16 minutes ago, 6666 said: That can't be all there is though as it doesn't say much. If they have evidence of him betting that he'll get a yellow or anything like that, then it's a wrap. Seems like they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 It is pretty wrong, if he is found guilty will he get 10 months with a suspended sentence like Tonali? or do the FA go softer and give like 6 with a suspended 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 23 Author Administrator Share Posted May 23 Just now, OrangeKhrush said: It is pretty wrong, if he is found guilty will he get 10 months with a suspended sentence like Tonali? or do the FA go softer and give like 6 with a suspended 6. I think they'll go harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 3 minutes ago, Stan said: I think they'll go harder. It is a sledge hammer for the hammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 17 minutes ago, Stan said: I think they'll go harder. @MUFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 44 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said: It is pretty wrong, if he is found guilty will he get 10 months with a suspended sentence like Tonali? or do the FA go softer and give like 6 with a suspended 6. Seems worse than what Tonalli did, tbh. I think ultimately with his betting, he wasn't betting on Newcastle - plus he was already suspended so he's not playing in these matches he was betting on. With Paqueta he's alleged to have not only bet on West Ham matches, but bet that he would receive a yellow card in matches he received yellow cards. That's not the most mindblowingly corrupt version of match fixing - in fact, it might be the least egregious match fixing possible. But it's still match fixing and if the FA has any sense (which, tbh, the jury is still out on that) they will want to crack down hard on any evidence of match fixing taking place to do all they can to remove any appearance of being okay with any form of corruption in English football. Having said that, counting on these bodies of authority to understand that the appearance of corruption opens up more allegations of corruption an possibly be a lost cause. We've already seem PMGOL see no issue with allowing referees to work side gigs working for the owners of Man City and Newcastle - which presents a pretty obvious appearance of a conflict of interest that invites allegations of corruption to our top flight referees. So hopefully the FA take this seriously, because a player betting on outcomes they can control in matches they play in should never be allowed. And cracking down on it now with something seeming relatively mild makes it clear to any players who might want to fix matches more seriously that they'll face a harsh punishment if/when they are caught. I honestly wouldn't mind if they make an example of him and ban him from playing in England. Players betting on things they do in a match should simply never be tolerated and making a harsh example out of him serves as a big big warning to the rest of the players. This is probably too harsh of a punishment for West Ham though as his market value will plummet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Deflecting from the shambles that has been VAR, officiating and 115 by getting players in the news for betting offences. Fuck off you boring twats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted May 23 Subscriber Share Posted May 23 3 minutes ago, Whiskey said: Deflecting from the shambles that has been VAR, officiating and 115 by getting players in the news for betting offences. Fuck off you boring twats. He does need charging to be fair. With or without this being in the news, nothing will get done about VAR and the officials and the 115 charges will get dealt with eventually but far too slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 I think he's in a world of pain if his appeal is rejected. A Lincoln City player got a five year ban for doing something similar in two FA Cup matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 11 hours ago, The Palace Fan said: I think he's in a world of pain if his appeal is rejected. A Lincoln City player got a five year ban for doing something similar in two FA Cup matches. 5 years is a career ender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted May 24 Subscriber Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, OrangeKhrush said: 5 years is a career ender As it should be if you're betting on matches that you have a hand in the outcome of. How would anyone trust him again? Then again, he hasn't been proven guilty so have to wait and watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 The yellow cards he allegedly bet on himself getting look exactly like somebody trying to get booked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 26 minutes ago, Rick said: The yellow cards he allegedly bet on himself getting look exactly like somebody trying to get booked Looks like me playing pro evolution soccer and getting irritated type tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Hewitt Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 On 23/05/2024 at 22:43, The Palace Fan said: I think he's in a world of pain if his appeal is rejected. A Lincoln City player got a five year ban for doing something similar in two FA Cup matches. Remember though that he plays in the prem, so will likely get a lot more leniency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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