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Was meant to see Metallica next month but they’ve just cancelled their Australia and New Zealand tour. Hetfield’s alcoholism is back on by the looks and he’s off to some rehab. Hopefully beats it this time...

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3 hours ago, Toinho said:

Was meant to see Metallica next month but they’ve just cancelled their Australia and New Zealand tour. Hetfield’s alcoholism is back on by the looks and he’s off to some rehab. Hopefully beats it this time...

Metallica will be around for more years I'm sure but I couldn't risk not seeing my favorite rock band live. Concert was earlier this year and by far the best one I have went to. 

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32 minutes ago, Teso dos Bichos said:

Metallica will be around for more years I'm sure but I couldn't risk not seeing my favorite rock band live. Concert was earlier this year and by far the best one I have went to. 

I went the last time there were in town, like 2009/2010 maybe. Great show.

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I think I saw them 3 times total. The last time I saw them live was when they played the entirety of Master of Puppets, which must've been in 2006 due to the anniversary. They were my 'gateway drug' band and I never got into them as much afterward. Pretty much the only thing I can still listen to is No Life 'Til Leather.

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Speaking of Metallica, today I found back a bootlegged version of No Life 'Til Leather and Power Metal, which is the first metal record I ever bought.

That unhinged Mustaine solo at the end. Fucking love it.

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KEXP are starting to upload the new King Gizzard session. Can't describe what it was like hearing the new album live back a few weeks back, but the audio quality on the videos here are amazing.

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What's everyones favourite Sabbath album? Has anyone had a stronger first 5 albums than them? Even dylan and the beatles don't have as good a run, imo. 

Vol 4 for me. 

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9 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said:

What's everyones favourite Sabbath album? Has anyone had a stronger first 5 albums than them? Even dylan and the beatles don't have as good a run, imo. 

Vol 4 for me. 

I'm going to have to be boring and go with the first one. Their bluesrock influences are still quite obvious there, but hearing a band lay the musical and aesthetic foundation for an entire genre is really something.

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On 27/10/2019 at 16:43, The Artful Dodger said:

What's everyones favourite Sabbath album? Has anyone had a stronger first 5 albums than them? Even dylan and the beatles don't have as good a run, imo. 

Vol 4 for me. 

I think Slayer's first 5 albums are all solid as fuck (if you're into thrash metal of course) - but their second (Hell Awaits) is pretty weak compared to the other four, despite being a solid album. Meanwhile those first 5 Sabbath albums are all solid albums all the way through, with a couple of crap fillers... but every album's got those it seems like - Sabbath went 5 records without too many of them. Truly is impressive. Zeppelin might be a contender though, with Led Zeppelin I-IV & Houses of the Holy as their 5th.

For me my favourite Sabbath album is hard to pick - on some days, I'd agree with you all day on Vol. 4. Love that fucking album. On other days I might say Master of Reality or Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (even though I think the production on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is a bit shit).

Sabbath's 6th album, Sabotage, is pretty underrated too imo. It's got some quality tunes on there - and once you get passed the first (very long) bit of Meglomania where the main riff kicks in and Ozzy starts going crazy on vocals... well it's a great fucking song. They're a great fucking band - which I guess, is obvious considering they kickstarted a whole genre.

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More Megadeth worship. It's still pretty sick to think they had 2 jazz virtuosos playing with them on the first 2 albums. They've had so many talented musicians play with them over the years, although I do think their line-up instability is what held them back in the long run.

Mustaine's solos on the same album by comparison, not as virtuosic but still distinct and fucked up fast:

 

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17 hours ago, Panflute said:

More Megadeth worship. It's still pretty sick to think they had 2 jazz virtuosos playing with them on the first 2 albums. They've had so many talented musicians play with them over the years, although I do think their line-up instability is what held them back in the long run.

I think there's 2 things that kept Megadeth back in the long run. One is that lineup instability (although after the KIMB/Peace Sells Era & after the transitional So Far So Good So What - which IMO is an underrated album... we did get the best lineup of Megadeth). But another is the constant decision to copy what Metallica were doing with their musical careers. Although it did produce some very good albums (Rust in Piece, Countdown, and Youthanasia is... okay - not as good as the other two):

Metallica released their most technical album in And Justice for All, shortly after... Megadeth release magnum opus in Rust in Peace (which is most likely my favourite metal album) and that's by far Megadeth's most technical work.

Metallica released a more "radio friendly" thrash album in the Black Album, it gets great public acclaim. Megadeth releases Countdown to Extinction, which is a more commercially friendly Megadeth thrash album in a similar vein to the Black Album.

This comparison doesn't really hold up with Metallica's shit cover album & Megadeth's decent but not great Youthanasia.

Metallica released some absolute rubbish with Load and Reload - Mustaine decides to release some similarly terrible albums in Cryptic Writings and Trust; both bands with a strength in metal writing some meh rock songs.

Then after that Metallica release St. Anger... while Megadeth released a few good but not great albums, with a period of being broken up in between some of those albums being released. And some of those later era Megadeth albums demonstrate some absolute quality musicianship that you'd expect from Megadeth. But Dave's voice has just gone and the songs aren't as... good... as the earlier stuff. I still like some of their albums post-reunion though.

Megadeth are absolutely one of my favourite bands of all time though - I think maybe over their careers there's other thrash bands that have been more consistent over their careers at producing quality music (arguably Slayer... but that could be because a lot of the shite after South of Heaven just sounds like a generic Slayer copy other than their nu-metal experiment, Exodus, Kreator, Testament) but even all of these have had some meh shite come out as well. But I don't think any of them ever hit the heights that Megadeth did.

Going back to that question about bands and first 5 albums. Megadeth are a good shout:

1.) Killing is My Business - the production value may be absolute crap (and I hate the new remaster because they've taken all the fucking bass out - so songs like Chosen Ones with that excellent bassline are diminished) but holy fuck the songs are good. And it's got a relentless energy to it that most albums don't have. I also like how all leads on this one are done by Dave & he's playing with absolute fury in those solos... love it.

2.) Peace Sells - a fucking absolute classic from start to finsih

3.) So Far So Good So What - this album is loaded with good songs, but it's not talked about anywhere near as much as the other albums surrounding it. Maybe because the album before is an absolute classic and the album after is a fucking masterpiece. Into The Lungs Of Hell, Set the World Afire, Mary Jane, In My Darkest Hour, Liar, and Hook in Mouth are all fantastic fucking songs. And that's most of the songs on the album - 502 is alright & the Sex Pistols cover is a bit crap... but those are the only other songs on the album. It's an underappreciated gem imo.

4.) Rust in Peace - this album is just brilliant. Like I said, it's a masterpiece.

5.) Countdown to Extinction - when Megadeth started taking a turn to more mainstream commercial success, but still an album filled with quality tunes. It's probably my least favourite of the 5, because it doesn't have the same furious energy as the other albums. But it's a really well polished album that has good songs with the most talented Megadeth lineup of all time and is rightly considered a classic & I love the album.

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Went to see a triple header in Wolves tonight - Blaze Bayley followed by David Ellefson with his new solo album followed by 90 minutes of former Judas Priest in the form of KK Downing, Les Binks and The Ripper, with Ellefson filling in on bass and AJ Mills on (other) guitar. 

I have just spent three hours screaming my tits off. I have no voice left, no hearing and I'm sweating like I've just done a marathon. Bayley is superb - his voice still isn't for me but god does he love what he does and he worked the crowd something good. Ellefson's new work is killer and the Megadeth hits made it all the better. Priest were something else - Ripper is still the vocalist he was 15 years ago, Downing looks like he never left and Les Binks is still the Northern Irish John Bonham. Ellefson on bass was just the cherry on top. Plenty of deep cuts too. Fucking wonderful night. God I love heavy metal.

 

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23 hours ago, tlr said:

Went to see a triple header in Wolves tonight - Blaze Bayley followed by David Ellefson with his new solo album followed by 90 minutes of former Judas Priest in the form of KK Downing, Les Binks and The Ripper, with Ellefson filling in on bass and AJ Mills on (other) guitar. 

I have just spent three hours screaming my tits off. I have no voice left, no hearing and I'm sweating like I've just done a marathon. Bayley is superb - his voice still isn't for me but god does he love what he does and he worked the crowd something good. Ellefson's new work is killer and the Megadeth hits made it all the better. Priest were something else - Ripper is still the vocalist he was 15 years ago, Downing looks like he never left and Les Binks is still the Northern Irish John Bonham. Ellefson on bass was just the cherry on top. Plenty of deep cuts too. Fucking wonderful night. God I love heavy metal.

 

Sounds like an excellent evening.

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1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Sounds like an excellent evening.

All for a tenner too! I found it especially lovely to go to a gig and have no pissing about with elaborate stage sets or costume changes or two minute breaks between songs whilst everyone changes guitar fifteen times. Just three acts genuinely delighted just to be on stage performing. No bullshit, just 2 and a half hours of glorious metal onslaught. Blaze Bayley had an impromptu meet and greet in the lobby at half time for fucks sake. 

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Got tickets for Megadeth in January. For some inexplicable reason Five Finger Deathpunch are the headliner and Megadeth are special guests, but fuck it, I don't know how many chances I'll get to see them live. Really excited.

Oh, and I still need to reply to that post @Dr. Gonzo :ph34r:

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Glad to know they are back to touring. Looks like Mustaine's treatment is finished.

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