Burning Gold Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: It’s not that shocking tbh... especially those signings before FFP where they were just pumped up with oil money. Morata's the only other one I can think of in recent times. That said, those two moves alone, especially Kepa, were absolutely criminal so it's surprising to see Marina Granovskaia enjoy the reputation she does among Chelsea fans in spite of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I’m sure the oil money helped. Better in some footballer's account and getting spent than in some crooked bank in a tax haven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Spike said: Better in some footballer's account and getting spent than in some crooked bank in a tax haven It probably still get spent in a crooked bank by footballers tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Dr. Gonzo said: It probably still get spent in a crooked bank by footballers tbh Coke dealers need customers too ya know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, Burning Gold said: Morata's the only other one I can think of in recent times. That said, those two moves alone, especially Kepa, were absolutely criminal so it's surprising to see Marina Granovskaia enjoy the reputation she does among Chelsea fans in spite of them. A lot of our failed transfers come at a time where the club were yo-yo-ing the kind of football we want to play. Kepa however was a deal where Courtois really left us fucked, and clubs around Europe knew how desperate we were. That said, she is also responsible for negotiating the fee for: Oscar and Ramires for a combined total of 100 million. Hazard for an estimated 130-150 million. Sold a declining Matic for 50 million. And just recently negotiated a lower asking price for both Werner and Havertz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I'm surprised how bad Hazard has been at Real Madrid, really thought he had the ability to flourish there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Ok, Barcelona is on the line and offer Dembélé/Griezmann for Pepe. Who says no? 22 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: I'm surprised how bad Hazard has been at Real Madrid, really thought he had the ability to flourish there. I feel like that it has a lot do with his body. Hazard seems to have a tendency to gain weight and as he´s approaching the 30s, it gets worse. That gain-loss of weight movement is terrible for the body. He probably needs to be more careful during his vacations. But the talent is still there, I still think he´s a top 10 player in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 21 hours ago, Burning Gold said: The "worst Premier League signing" discussion has been ruined a bit recently because it's Kepa by an absolute mile, and I don't think you could make a reasoned argument otherwise. Solid first season is a bit of a myth as well as he was below par then, just not season-derailingly bad. But yeah, Pepe just isn't good, and at 25 with a full season under his belt, he's fast running out of excuses. I think it goes under the radar a bit because Arsenal fans have plenty of other targets for their ire. One of them, Lacazette, profiles similarly to Pepe (or did when he was signed) and I'd find it concerning Arsenal seemingly didn't learn their lesson then To be honest I think the issue isn't really the player but more the style that the managers he's had at Arsenal want to play. He didn't fit Emery's system and doesn't fit Arteta's system (which is similar to Emery's but probably more defensive). The talent is definitely there and despite popular belief, he has shown signs of it. With his price you'd obviously expect more than a few signs but we haven't really seen him in a system that suits him. Don't think it really suits anyone playing in our front three to be honest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 minute ago, shut up said: He's got a goal or assist every 100 minutes for Arsenal this not. Not too bad at all. He's been a better signing than Keita, who has just been a massive waste for two years. liverpool fans deflecting again. Weird Keita obsession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Pepe and Keita have been terrible signings so far. Liverpool can afford theirs, Arsenal can’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 Keita has been really unlucky with constant injury problems whilst trying to break into one of the best teams in Europe. Pepe has been shite for one of the worst Arsenal sides in my lifetime whilst costing £20m more than Keita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, shut up said: Pepe had only been at Arsenal for a year and has shown flashes of brilliance but overall very inconsistent and needs to improve, but at least he's been available to play and make a contribution (a goal or assist in every 100 mins this season isn't too bad at all) Keita has been crocked for over two years now. He's literally done nowt for liverpool. And i've just checked if he played against brighton and he's injured again Keita definitely hasn't lived up to the hype around him before he signed. Clearly a quality player in there but can't keep himself fit. Weird because I don't think he was a sick note in Germany? He doesn't seem to like it when the going gets tough either I don't think. Liverpool are doing just fine with Keita only playing about 30 games a season though. If he somehow manages to live up to the hype then great but if he doesn't then he still has a part to play as a squad player. Arsenal need far more than that from Pepe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 29, 2020 Administrator Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, shut up said: Liverpool's form in 2020 isn't great. You've just been beat by Atalanta and just dropped points to Brighton. Liverpool (this season) aren't 'doing fine' without Keita at all. First two seasons it hasn't mattered but this season you could really do with him contributing. Huh? They're top of the table in both competitions. Think that's pretty good Hardly like they're languishing in mid table struggling without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 59 minutes ago, shut up said: Liverpool's form in 2020 isn't great (compared with previous year). You've just been beat by Atalanta and just dropped points to Brighton. Liverpool (this season) aren't 'doing fine' without Keita at all. First two seasons it hasn't mattered but this season you could really do with him contributing. Top of Champions League group and as it stands top of the league. Will end the day in second after a difficult start and loads of injuries. Liverpool are doing fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I like how Keita being injury prone is somehow meant to take away from the fact Pepe is totally shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Liverpool fans are rattled by Shut Up like Klopp is rattled by TV stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber JoshBRFC+ Posted November 30, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted November 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, 6666 said: Liverpool fans are rattled by Shut Up like Klopp is rattled by TV stations. I strongly disagree. Also - Stan supports Leicester mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Pepe will leave and flourish elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Pepe is dog shite and has suffered through the back of dodgy dealing as that is why people have lost their job at Arsenal over it, plus money has gone missing from this deal. It is another disastrous deal by Arsenal and people used to say that Arsenal were a well run football club . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Again, he will flourish elsewhere. Mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Again, he will flourish elsewhere. Mark my words. Probably in the French league. PSG or Lyon might buy him for 30 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, SirBalon 69 said: Probably in the French league. PSG or Lyon might buy him for 30 million. His end product was immense then he arrived at Arsenal and played under two managers who cripple attacking players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, Cicero said: His end product was immense then he arrived at Arsenal and played under two managers who cripple attacking players. His goal contributions are actually still right up there for us this season. He has talent, the system we're playing is just shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 The system is shit, but so is he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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