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Using hyperbole and pretending that people are asking for Mbappe and Sancho and spending hundreds of millions when literally nobody is even close to saying that only serves to undermine your own argument and is why you end up calling each other spoilt brats or dickheads. There's a fair debate to be had from both sides so I don't see why you have to make out that expecting just a couple of signings to add depth is in any way equivalent to playing Football Manager or FIFA with unlimited money switched on. It's basic stuff. Even if you already have the best team in the world, all of them are another year older and it's normal for clubs to refresh the squad because any team can always improve. If you stand still while everyone else improves their squad then eventually they overtake you. If the finances don't work then fair enough, make that point without pretending that the other person is saying something they aren't. Bad luck to Liverpool for finally fighting their way back to the top at a time where the global pandemic is messing with the finances of clubs who are still trying to live within their means. Not everyone can do a Man Utd and be shite for far too long then get back to the pinnacle just in time to be the biggest benefactors of huge swathes of money suddenly being poured into the sport. I think the concerns raised about Origi are fair enough. Unless he can play like prime Drogba against teams other than Everton and Barcelona then you should be looking to bring in a fee for him and put that towards another option in the front line. Minamino needs time to settle in and work with the team. Klopp has made loads of signings that have taken 12 or even 18 months to come into their own then been absolutely quality. He might well be the latest one of those. Then again, he's come from the Austrian league so it's not like he has a proven track record of stepping into the first team of a team competing at the highest level. I'm a bit fuzzy on the timelines but Lovren and Lallana both left this summer didn't they? Fair enough if you've got young players who are as good as those but it's not the same as having someone experienced to step in who is a known quantity. Thiago would clearly be a quality signing but depth in midfield isn't really an issue for Liverpool with Henderson, Fabinho, Milner, Wijnaldum, Chamberlain, Jones in there already. He is a different type of player though and you could free up Fabinho as an emergency centre back if you got him in. You can't rest on your laurels. Key injuries kill you if they come at the wrong time. You got knocked out of the Champions League last season because Alisson was injured and your second choice goalkeeper wasn't up to standard at that level. Comparisons to other teams aren't always helpful and yeah, backup goalkeeper is always one of the trickiest positions in the squad to get right, but if you had a Sergio Romero or a Willy Caballero instead of Adrian, you could have stayed in contention for another European Cup that night. It could come at any time with Van Dijk or Salah or Mane if you don't have the right cover. You don't have to be a spoilt FIFA armchair fan or think you could do a better job than Jurgen Klopp to point that out. I think it's absolutely fair enough based on what the team has achieved in the last two seasons to not be worried, but there are rational arguments to support you if you reckon that Liverpool haven't done enough to improve the squad this window. The only thing I disagree with is acting as if people who take the opposite stance to you are being ridiculous. Not every debate has to have a clear consensus. Sadly, because it's the internet, it's easy to forget that.

The remaster is much harder than I remember the originals being. But omg it's so fun and it's taken me back about 20 years, to much simpler times.

Life on Venus?

Tory is not just defined by people who vote for or sympathetic to the Conservative Party, I also include; People who want England to do well in any sport at all. Anyone who wears chinos Nearly everyone from the south of England, apart from inner city London, Bristol etc. But even they need to be tested for Tory tendencies. People who go on gap years. Men who don’t drink Guinness. Anyone who wears a hat inside anyone who owns a horse There are more but I’m even boring myself now.

@DeadLinesman The policing minister has encouraged people to report their neighbours for not complying with the new “rule of six” coronavirus restriction as it came into force in England. From Monday, social gatherings of more than six people are illegal, with people facing fines of up to £3,200 if they do not abide by the measure in indoor and outdoor settings. Kit Malthouse said concerned neighbours should ring the non-emergency police number 101 to report violations.

I think people do under sell Origi's contributions. This being a prime example. I mean, stepping up in a European Cup semi final to score two goals when two of your front three are out injured is pretty big like. But it's just brushed off as if it doesn't mean much. I'm trying to think of times where two of the front three have been out of the starting line up in league and European games. I can only think of Barca 18/19 and Everton last season. Origi scored four goals in those two games. Everyone on here was fuming with that line up for the Everton game too! He does seem to take more of a back seat when he plays with two of the others. Two of the three are very rarely out at the same time and as long as Liverpool are winning the games though it's not really an issue. The concerns if he had to start multiple games in a row are understandable but then he never gets the chance to even start back to back games so we just don't know if he would be good enough over those games. The last time he was starting regularly for Liverpool was 15/16 and 16/17 and he did go on a bit of a scoring run both times if I remember rightly. He's still only 25 too. Maybe Klopp sees something that is worth working with to keep him around at least for the time being.

That's not surprising, most German clubs are really good in their behavior towards their fans and members including potential ones. To give you an idea what I'm talking about I ordered a few years ago a SV Elversberg lighter as an gift for a mate, who is a fan of theirs. Since then I receive a card from them every eastern, christmas and birthday, the last fact is especially perplexing as I didn't mention that date in said order.

He really looks like a Sith lord in that pic

On Austrian TV before the race yesterday, they talked to Toto Wolff about this. He straight out denied that Ineos are buying the majority of the shares and said that Mercedes is definitely staying in F1 as Mercedes. However, what I found curious was his unwillingness to confirm that he'll remain at Mercedes as the team principal. I still think he will move to Aston Martin at some point.

Nah he went to Uranus

I think anyone comparing our spending to Chelsea's needs to go and have a check up.

Well we obviously dispute that horrendous claim... Secondly...

I'm playing Tony Hawks' Pro Skater 1 + 2.

Funny that.. we had a 'Hazard situation' that was very similar to that....

Lampard getting shirty about Klopp in his interview. What bit of what Klopp said was wrong? Chelsea are backed by an oligarch ffs. Public school boy tit.

@DeadLinesman Didn't you say you were going on Radio 4?

Searching for @Bluewolf IP address as we speak.....

Also, I will say that I wrote an email this weekend to Augsburg staff about becoming a member, and got an email pretty quickly, in English, that started off with an apology for any typos or mistakes. I don't know why, but I thought that was pretty classy as it clearly wasn't someone automated message.

I feel the need to thank thanks to our brother @Tommy for introducing me to GiiRL. I have been crushing them on Spotify recently and I love it.

In reverse order of likelihood. Schalke - I do like them and they have a strong history of having American players. Great stadium, and a massive fan base. A big sleeping giant for sure. Freiburg - So incredibly likable the more I read about them. And honestly, they have some players that I really like (Til for one). Augsburg - Bavarian, which is where most of my beer comes from. Very cool looking stadium, kind of under the radar, and honestly, I kind of like that they don't seem to have fans on here. I watched their match against Celle and got really into it. Also, I love their kits, my favorite colors are red and a darker green, so that's brilliant. I was thinking Union, as well, but I like them, but don't love them.

I mean, it's still the same thing...

"If you join, I'll join."

Yeah I was just being a bit of a cunt there. But seriously, if Klopp thinks that the likes of Jones and Minamino can step up to the required level, who are a few dickheads on an internet forum to tell him he's wrong? The same shouts of 'not good enough at the moment' or being underwhelmed with an £8m signing were leveled at players like Trent and Robertson three years ago. Only two years ago Henderson wasn't good enough. I was one of them that thought it too. But guess what, he improved massively.

How is it spoilt to want the club to really freshen the squad for the first time in 4 transfer windows? Stop talking nonsense.

@Dr. Gonzo Hero. He should be rewarded for this and lauded on good morning Britain!

Disgusting...

There were videos of Stroll and Toto riding away in their scooters...was there ever any reason given for such a meeting?