West Ham Sack Manuel Pellegrini

[Stan]

Sacked after defeat today. 

[Pyfish+]

It's been coming for a while. Moyes coming in?

[Harry]

This is the cycle West ham are perpetually stuck in. Riding that 1st year of a fresh face exhilaration period of a managers tenure towards overachievement, then when the team reverts back to the position of the squad  talent baseline they act surprised, sack good manager and bring in a ship steadier. Rinse and repeat.

[Smiley Culture]

Been on the cards a while. There’s been a sense of inevitability about this for a while.

They have spent a fair amount of money and aren’t getting the results with a side that on paper at least, looks capable of a top half finish. 

I don’t know if this is Pellegrini’s doing but the recruitment and formations employed by West Ham have seemingly no sense of parity. Sebastian Haller scored a bag full for Frankfurt but has not hit those heights for West Ham. I like him. I think he’s a very good striker but there seems to have been no common sense employed when signing him. Haller scored or made a load of goals playing alongside Luka Jovic and now has to play as a lone frontman for West Ham, a role that he’s not had huge success in. It just seems daft. 

[Lucas]

I've said this possibly two or three times in posts on here but I really think they cannot get on with that stadium.

It's not home for them. Fans are too disengaged, far away from the pitch, its quiet and subdued, away teams like going there, there is no real advantage for West Ham when they are at 'home'.

They haven't been the same since Upton Park. At least you hated going there as an away team. Now, its incredibly tame.

I don't know the actual statistics since moving there but the amount of home games they lose each year is really shocking.

This season to date, won 2 out of 9 home games in the league. It's just not worked out for them there so far.

[Dan+]

They are such a fragmented, broken club, and I think they're just going to keep doing this until they eventually drop.

The big gripe I have is that they don't even sign bad players - they just frequently manage to get so little from them. How is this the case?

My mate watches loads of Frankfurt and said Haller would be one of the signings of the season. Sure enough, the West Ham striker curse is back again. Yet I bet you if he joined Wolves he'd be on the fringes of the France squad by now.

It's nothing short of embarrassing if they get Moyes back.

[Dan+]

3 hours ago, Lucas said:

I've said this possibly two or three times in posts on here but I really think they cannot get on with that stadium.

It's not home for them. Fans are too disengaged, far away from the pitch, its quiet and subdued, away teams like going there, there is no real advantage for West Ham when they are at 'home'.

They haven't been the same since Upton Park. At least you hated going there as an away team. Now, its incredibly tame.

I don't know the actual statistics since moving there but the amount of home games they lose each year is really shocking.

This season to date, won 2 out of 9 home games in the league. It's just not worked out for them there so far.

We've still not lost at their current ground. Upton Park was our nightmare - our record was something like 19 defeats in the last 22 trips.

Now we're changing an entire team near enough, going there and winning, and to be honest, winning pretty comfortably.

It's shameful. There's no way on earth you could've gone and done that at Upton Park.

[Smiley Culture]

West Ham at London Stadium

18/19 (10th) - W9 D4 L6 GF32 GA27

17/18 (13th) - W7 D6 L6 GF24 GA26

16/17 (11th) - W7 D4 L8 GF19 GA31 

West Ham at Upton Park 

15/16 (7th) - W9 D7 L3 GF34 GA26

14/15 (12th) - W9 D4 L6 GF25 GA18

13/14 (13th) W7 D3 L9 GF25 GA26

I think it’s a cop out and an easy excuse to blame a stadium for West Ham not being very good because their record is largely the same across the two stadiums. 

I just think Pellegrini and the West Ham players have massively underperformed this season and when that happens, it’s the manager to go, not the players. 

[Honey Honey]

Who remembers "Smellegrini" 

[Stan]

As if West Ham are actually going to reappoint Moyes?! 

1 step forward, 2 steps backwards. 

Where did he get them last time he was there? 

[Smiley Culture]

5 minutes ago, Stan said:

As if West Ham are actually going to reappoint Moyes?! 

1 step forward, 2 steps backwards. 

Where did he get them last time he was there? 

From the relegation zone to 13th beating Chelsea, Leicester and Everton whilst also beating a handful of sides around the bottom of the league in Huddersfield, Southampton and West Brom. 

He did a better job at West Ham than given credit for. Pellegrini has arguably taken them backwards, whilst spending £100m in the process, since taking over from Moyes. 

[Stan]

Just don't think Moyes is one to take them forward again to where their ambitions are? 

What did he get sacked for last time? 

[CaaC (John)+]

4 minutes ago, Stan said:

Just don't think Moyes is one to take them forward again to where their ambitions are? 

What did he get sacked for last time? 

He was hired on a 6-month contract, saved them from relegation then they never renewed his contract, Moyes must be thick as 2 planks of wood after what they did to him last time around.  

[CaaC (John)+]

To think they got rid of Moyes or never renewed his contract and hired Pellegrini and now they are in the same boat as last time, I feel sorry for the West Ham supporters as I have mates who are Hammer supporters but I hope they go down because of the board if I was Moyes after they never renewed his contract as he was willing to stay on I would have told them to stick their offer up the back of their arse.  

[Smiley Culture]

8 minutes ago, CaaC (John) said:

To think they got rid of Moyes or never renewed his contract and hired Pellegrini and now they are in the same boat as last time, I feel sorry for the West Ham supporters as I have mates who are Hammer supporters but I hope they go down because of the board if I was Moyes after they never renewed his contract as he was willing to stay on I would have told them to stick their offer up the back of their arse.  

He’s been out of work since, there’s no way he’s turning it down. He’ll have been out of the game far too long if he keeps waiting. 
 

[Batard]

If West Ham bring back Moyes they've had a howler. Shows the lack of direction and vision at boardroom level.

[Danny]

Read something about the owners and their kids organise the transfers at West Ham which doesn’t sound surprising. They’re still playing the same football as last season hoping Haller can play the same as Arnautovic.

@Lucas I’m not sure I agree with that, when I’ve spoken to West Ham fans they feel like the stadium isn’t as bad as is made out and only some parts of it feel far from the pitch. With that said @Smiley Culture stats show that there’s little in the change which begs the question, why leave Upton Park? The only acceptable reason for West Ham is that they’re going to break the top 6 but that’s not looking like it’s happening anytime soon

[CaaC (John)+]

Just now, Smiley Culture said:

He’s been out of work since, there’s no way he’s turning it down. He’ll have been out of the game far too long if he keeps waiting

What if he keeps them up again? the hammers board will do the same and get rid of him for someone else, Moyes is becoming like another Big Sam, "Save our bacon mucker then move on, we don't need you". 

 

11 hours ago, Lucas said:

It's not home for them. Fans are too disengaged, far away from the pitch, its quiet and subdued, away teams like going there, there is no real advantage for West Ham when they are at 'home'.

They haven't been the same since Upton Park. At least you hated going there as an away team. Now, its incredibly tame.

What Lucas said I think is spot on, I have never been to Upton Park or their new ground but years ago I went to the old Highbury ground to watch Arsenal play and the ground was so compact and it felt like you were packed in like a tin of sardines but the atmosphere was electric and you could hear the home supporters as if you were in tunnel with load speakers on, Arsenal really have never been the same since moving to the Emirates.

[Smiley Culture]

8 minutes ago, Danny said:

Read something about the owners and their kids organise the transfers at West Ham which doesn’t sound surprising. They’re still playing the same football as last season hoping Haller can play the same as Arnautovic.

@Lucas I’m not sure I agree with that, when I’ve spoken to West Ham fans they feel like the stadium isn’t as bad as is made out and only some parts of it feel far from the pitch. With that said @Smiley Culture stats show that there’s little in the change which begs the question, why leave Upton Park? The only acceptable reason for West Ham is that they’re going to break the top 6 but that’s not looking like it’s happening anytime soon

A business move. I’ve no idea how much the cost of running a stadium is but don’t they pay £2.5m a year in rent on the London Stadium? That’s peanuts, an obvious move really. 

[CaaC (John)+]

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

A business move. I’ve no idea how much the cost of running a stadium is but don’t they pay £2.5m a year in rent on the London Stadium? That’s peanuts, an obvious move really. 

Aye 

[CaaC (John)+]

Jesus Christ 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50936102

[RandoEFC+]

Moyes did a decent job there. There was nothing wrong with them showing some ambition to get a manager who could actually move them into a position to challenge for top 6/7 which Pellegrini was more likely to do than Moyes, but it clearly hasn't worked out. In terms of Moyes emulating his Everton success if he's still got it in him, I said at the time West Ham are the best fit for him to be able to build something like that, and they probably still are.

[CaaC (John)+]

3 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

Moyes did a decent job there. There was nothing wrong with them showing some ambition to get a manager who could actually move them into a position to challenge for top 6/7 which Pellegrini was more likely to do than Moyes, but it clearly hasn't worked out. In terms of Moyes emulating his Everton success if he's still got it in him, I said at the time West Ham are the best fit for him to be able to build something like that, and they probably still are.

But the board don't see it that way, they more or less told him to fuck off last time after he saved them from relegation, hired Pellegrini and now have a bucket full of eggs in their faces and they must have known that Moyes was desperate for another shot so stuck their tails between their legs and gave him another go, I can just imagine them getting relegated this time around and Moyes will get the blame. 

[Smiley Culture]

HThe last two appointments of West Ham’s that have been labelled “different directions”, “better football on the eye” etc have been Slaven Bilic and Manuel Pellegrini and neither quite did it. One good season, West Ham’s best since 2001/02, under Bilić and a failed attempt at European Football, getting beat by a Romanian team, is all they’ve got to show for those few years. 

Last thing they need, IMO, is another appointment and to continue these vein delusions of grandeur of this mythical “West Ham Way” their fans and seemingly, their board, have. They need a bit of security and a manager that will deliver that. They’re a mid-table side, somewhere between 10th-13th, as their past 5-6 seasons shows, these dreams of European qualification and midweek group games against Europe’s elite is exactly that, a dream. 

 

[Rick]

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