Burning Gold 599 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stan said: Lacazette is much better than Giroud . Steep fee but can't be surprised these days. Clubs can basically slap a huge price tag on a player and with the money floating around in the game you're bound to get one idiotic club paying it. Why can't he get in the France team ahead of Giroud then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC 357 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: How is he a downgrade? Giroud starts over him every time for France. Wouldn't say downgrade but I wouldn't class him as an upgrade. We will have to see how he does though, I do think the fee is very steep though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Burning Gold said: Why can't he get in the France team ahead of Giroud then? That is why France never won the Euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,397 Posted July 4, 2017 Administrator Share Posted July 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Burning Gold said: Why can't he get in the France team ahead of Giroud then? I don't know . I don't agree that Giroud should be in the national team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, Burning Gold said: Why can't he get in the France team ahead of Giroud then? That is solely down to the National managers opinion. He may feel Giroud fits his style/system better! One mans opinion doesn't mean it's gospel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold 599 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: That is solely down to the National managers opinion. He may feel Giroud fits his style/system better! One mans opinion doesn't mean it's gospel. Giroud probably does fit the system better, but that's because he's got more about his game. Lacazette's a good finisher and nothing else and I just don't think that's enough at this level. 30 minutes ago, VanPanna said: That is why France never won the Euros. No mate, Ronaldo is why France lost that game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Burning Gold said: Giroud probably does fit the system better, but that's because he's got more about his game. Lacazette's a good finisher and nothing else and I just don't think that's enough at this level. No mate, Ronaldo is why France lost that game He's got much more to his game than finishing. He's very direct, has good pace and his work rate is top notch. A much better fit for Arsenal's system than Giroud in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold 599 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: He's got much more to his game than finishing. He's very direct, has good pace and his work rate is top notch. A much better fit for Arsenal's system than Giroud in my opinion. All strikers are direct and I don't think he's that quick at all for his position. We've had this conversation before The other thing is that he won't fare well being a cog like Giroud does. So you have to ask whether he's good enough to be the main man (not for me) and whether this means Sanchez is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) So he has signed! Expect this good news that Arsenal have gone out and spent big, followed up by Bad News soon that Arsenal have agreed to sell Sanchez to Man City. Edited July 4, 2017 by VanPanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 People saying Lacazette isn't better than Giroud are wrong and people saying Giroud doesn't belong in the French national team are also wrong. Two different types of ignorance being shown. Giroud starts for France and does well for France because he fits their system better, he's also a better fit as a striking partner for Griezmann. That's what it's mainly about, systems and tactics. Glad I could help you all out but I remember saying something similar about paying attention to how France play when people thought Martial was going to start for France at the Euros... People never learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC 357 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 11 hours ago, 6666 said: People saying Lacazette isn't better than Giroud are wrong and people saying Giroud doesn't belong in the French national team are also wrong. Two different types of ignorance being shown. Giroud starts for France and does well for France because he fits their system better, he's also a better fit as a striking partner for Griezmann. That's what it's mainly about, systems and tactics. Glad I could help you all out but I remember saying something similar about paying attention to how France play when people thought Martial was going to start for France at the Euros... People never learn. Not sure I buy into the whole he doesn't fit their system. Mbappe has similar qualities and he has gone straight into their first team squad. Does Lacazette even get into their international squads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue 971 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Lacazette record is impressive, he will surely do a good job for Arsenal. I just think he will need time to adapt to a new and far more difficult league. The price is big but then again the market went to the shitter ages go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Chaaay AFC said: Not sure I buy into the whole he doesn't fit their system. Mbappe has similar qualities and he has gone straight into their first team squad. Does Lacazette even get into their international squads? What do you mean you don't buy into it? Do you think he's not a regular starter because he does fit their system better than Giroud but they thought it'd be more fun to go against that? Lacazette and Giroud are two totally different types of strikers, of course it's down to what you need when it comes to who you play. And Mbappe and Lacazette aren't the exact same type of player either, it's like saying Martial and Sturridge are the same type of player. If we are to say they're the same type of player then I guess Lacazette is just better as he scored more goals than Mbappe last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC 357 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 5 hours ago, 6666 said: What do you mean you don't buy into it? Do you think he's not a regular starter because he does fit their system better than Giroud but they thought it'd be more fun to go against that? Lacazette and Giroud are two totally different types of strikers, of course it's down to what you need when it comes to who you play. And Mbappe and Lacazette aren't the exact same type of player either, it's like saying Martial and Sturridge are the same type of player. If we are to say they're the same type of player then I guess Lacazette is just better as he scored more goals than Mbappe last season. I said they had similar qualities as in they are both small and pacy, at no point did is say they were the same. I'm only querying why Mbappe can get into the team when he isn't a 6"4 target man? Surely he wouldnt fit their system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 The news we've all been waiting for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 But is he better than Giroud??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, SirBalon said: The news we've all been waiting for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 All eyes on Sanchez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: All eyes on Sanchez No he will sign! WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE LEAGUE! WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE LEAGUE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Chaaay AFC said: I'm only querying why Mbappe can get into the team when he isn't a 6"4 target man? Surely he wouldnt fit their system? The starting duo currently is Giroud and Griezmann. Mbappe is mainly used as either a rotation for Griezmann or he plays on the wing cutting in. He's not an undisputed starter over Giroud. The point that you're attempting to make makes no sense either when the discussion is about Giroud v. Lacazette for France. It's like you accepted that I was right but didn't want to admit it so made it about Mbappe v. Lacazette while pretending it somehow makes a point about Giroud v. Lacazette which it doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Large 141 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 That is an embarrassment. Again just another example of how you don't need to know what you're doing in football, you just need to know the right people. No real experience in developing players, let alone youth players, and they give him the top job at a Cat 1 Academy. Joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Academy manager? WHY? This club is an embarrassment. Arsenal have absolutely no idea how to enter the structure of a modern football club. Just concentrate on making money for god sake! Leave football for clubs dedicated to football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,106 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Nah, I don't buy it that he wouldn't know anything. A person doesn't play a sport their entire life and not pick on some coaching techniques through osmosis. Would I throw him into that position? Nope but a lower position would've been fine. Coaching the U16s defence or something in that manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,106 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Even an adjutant position to a real academy manager, FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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