Arsenal Discussion

[Chaaay AFC]

Just now, Burning Gold said:

It'll be interesting to see how you manage this season with a squad of about 3 players 

I know, after Sunday's performance you could argue the whole match-day sqaud could be sold. 

[SirBalon]

10 minutes ago, Chaaay AFC said:

Apparently there was a meeting yesterday and now Wenger will sell certain players as he only wants to keep the players who want to be there. 

The u-turn is embarrasing, I fully expect Alexis & Chamberlain to go with a few more. Hilarious to do this after saying they won't be sold. The club should have dealt with this situation months ago and now we are dealing with it 2 days before the end of the window...

At least Alexis didn't cup-tie himself by playing in the Champions League! 

[Chaaay AFC]

1 minute ago, SirBalon said:

At least Alexis didn't cup-tie himself by playing in the Champions League! 

Mate I can't even joke about this anymore, it's actually unbelievable how bad this club is being run right now.

It's 2011 all over again. Wenger claimed Nasri & Fabregas were staying, both then sold and we proceeded to get destoyed by United. That caused all the panic signings at the end of the window, same happening again here. Ground Hog Day FC Holdings PLC.

[SirBalon]

1 minute ago, Chaaay AFC said:

Mate I can't even joke about this anymore, it's actually unbelievable how bad this club is being run right now.

It's 2011 all over again. Wenger claimed Nasri & Fabregas were staying, both then sold and we proceeded to get destoyed by United. That caused all the panic signings at the end of the window, same happening again here. Ground Hog Day FC Holdings PLC.

Mate, it's been going on for years.  It's been a mishmash of all sorts of experiments gone wrong for almost a decade!

Wenger lost the plot many years ago and he's a thick-skulled individual that wants to prove a point and in doing so is using a football club that he claims to love to do this.  He's thinking about himself because he would never have signed a new contract five years ago let alone these latest two years.

Joking about ourselves is all we have left.

Let's see what happens though!

[Chaaay AFC]

Just now, SirBalon said:

Mate, it's been going on for years.  It's been a mishmash of all sorts of experiments gone wrong for almost a decade!

Wenger lost the plot many years ago and he's a thick-skulled individual that wants to prove a point and in doing so is using a football club that he claims to love to do this.  He's thinking about himself because he would never have signed a new contract five years ago let alone these latest two years.

Joking about ourselves is all we have left.

Let's see what happens though!

I think he is about to sell half this team when he is the singular problem. Say what you want about these players, but someone like Simeone would turn the majority of these into top players. He is on the verge of sending us down a very bad path.

[Rick]

He's selling Mustafa? Won't that leave you with just Koscielny, Holding and Chambers at the back? What in the holy fuck? 😂

Fully expect Sanchez, Ox and possibly Ozil try and get the fuck out before Thursday. Arsenal are a disgrace, a total disgrace.

[Stan]

5 minutes ago, FOYM said:

He's selling Mustafa? Won't that leave you with just Koscielny, Holding and Chambers at the back? What in the holy fuck? 😂

Fully expect Sanchez, Ox and possibly Ozil try and get the fuck out before Thursday. Arsenal are a disgrace, a total disgrace.

alright, Didier, calm down. 

[Panna King]

43 minutes ago, FOYM said:

He's selling Mustafa? Won't that leave you with just Koscielny, Holding and Chambers at the back? What in the holy fuck? 😂

Fully expect Sanchez, Ox and possibly Ozil try and get the fuck out before Thursday. Arsenal are a disgrace, a total disgrace.

Mustafi wants to leave he hasnt settled in at Arsenal apparently and wants to go back to Italy as he liked it there when he played for Sampdoria.  He is going on loan to Inter Milan with an option to buy at £35 million.    Chambers is leaving also but no one wants to pay the £24 million.  Arsenal need 3 defenders now and even now the OX is leaving that will leave the club short at right back if Wenger continues with this 3 at the back. 

Edited August 29, 2017 by VanPanna

[True Blue]

Apparently Arsenal put in a bid for Evans, on sky now.

[SirBalon]

Apparently Arsenal are putting in bids for;

Dybala

Iñigo Martínez

Insigne

Arda Turan

Antoine Griezmann

oh... and Jonny Evans.

 

[Stan]

18 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

Apparently Arsenal are putting in bids for;

Dybala

Iñigo Martínez

Insigne

Arda Turan

Antoine Griezmann

oh... and Jonny Evans.

 

Don't forget that Marco Asensio dude who's a cert to join from a lowly Madrid side  

[SirBalon]

24 minutes ago, Stan said:

Don't forget that Marco Asensio dude who's a cert to join from a lowly Madrid side  

We've backed out of that one mate. Raheem fits the bill better. 

[The Artful Dodger]

Wenger has turned into a dictator if this is true about Mustafi.

[carefreeluke]

Something's wrong Arsenal.

 

[SirBalon]

Sack Steve Bould!!! 

[6666]

16 hours ago, carefreeluke said:

Something's wrong Arsenal.

 

You thinking this is true is what's wrong.

 

[carefreeluke]

[True Blue]

When i read it i knew it was wrong, no way he could have conceded 100+ goals per season.

[The Artful Dodger]

Are Arsenal asset stripping because of the loss of Champions League? 

[SirBalon]

33 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Are Arsenal asset stripping because of the loss of Champions League? 

That theory is being banded about as well as the one that the board are locked in disagreement and won't release the funds for Wenger incase the season goes seriously bust and a lot of money spent.

These are all rumours though with absolutely no foundation apart from possible theories.

I suppose they're coming out because absolutely everyone thought Arsenal would be spending this summer.  The mental prices haven't helped though.

[6666]

45 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Are Arsenal asset stripping because of the loss of Champions League? 

Out of the players that have left , only Chamberlain can be considered an "asset" and he wasn't that influential. Alexis Sanchez would of course be a bigger deal but both are more a case of selling 2 players whose contracts are up and don't actually want to see out their final year and want to make the move happen now.

The bigger question is why we supposedly don't have money to spend now, which is what one of few reliable journalists, David Ornstein, has said. Theory is that Kroenke wants to build a new stadium for the LA Rams which could cost up to $2.5 billion and that's where Arsenal money is set to be invested... Obviously that might just be a case of people putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5

[Harry]

1 hour ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Are Arsenal asset stripping because of the loss of Champions League? 

An interesting case study on austerity

[Dr. Gonzo]

I think Arsenal supporters need to be united on an anti-Kroenke front. "Kroenke out" needs to be the rallying cry, Wenger Out needs to be shelved for another day.

Because while I agree that Wenger looks like he's totally lost the plot... I don't think the problems at Arsenal are entirely with the manager (though he's certainly not helping). Kroenke lacks ambition. Look at his track record of ownership with American sides:

• LA Rams are totally shite. And he fucked off out of their home to move them to LA to tap into that LA viewer market (LA is mostly a Raiders city though) - pretty similar with Arsenal tbh. Not really arsed about how they perform, as long as fans turn up and spend lots of money in the stadium
• Denver Nuggets - have been shite for years
• Colorado Avalanche - worst team in the NHL Western Central Division. And worst team in the NHL last year
• Colorado Rapids - I actually have no idea how good they are for an MLS side. According to wiki they're alright... but in 2015 they were the worst MLS side.

He does not give a shit about his team's success. American sports don't have to worry about relegation and there's certain things like draft order that gives sides some parity if they've been shite. It makes American sports more cyclical. But that's now how football works in England - and a few fuckups and you go the way of Leeds (although I think that was overambition rather than lack of ambition that killed them), Nottingham Forest (Brian Clough basically lost the fucking plot and the club never quite recovered), and Newcastle (who never hit the highs of the other two clubs... BUT I'm still astounded by their massive fall from grace - and Mike Ashley certainly gives 0 fucks about success, just cashing in off the club).

Usmanov's letter to the Arsenal board in 2012 highlights how shite of an owner Kroenke is. So while I think Wenger is certainly a problem for Arsenal fans, I think Kroenke is similar to Gillett and Hicks (although on the plus side, you lot are not in the financial troubles we were in at the time). Kroenke and his son make up 2 of the board of directors - there needs to be a united front opposing the way they've run the club. People like Usmanov and other board members and shareholders who might care about the history AND future of the club should be leaking as much info as possible that can get the supporters to act. For instance, someone at the club was telling us where G&H were going to get loans for the club - and then there would be a united effort of Liverpool fans to write to banks and give compelling reasons (aka threatening boycotts and stating why the club's fans would boycott) for the loan not to be given.

But it will be tough because Arsenal are in good financial shape. And he owns 66.6% (hail satan?) of the shares.

 

[Spike]

Terrible arguement. The Avalanche just had a shit coach, Patrick Roy is an idiot. They won the division as recently as 2014 during the years where the central was heads above the toughest division. The team is solid, Duchene, Soderberg, Landeskog, MacKinnon, Varlamov, and a few others. They won the SC under Kroenke.

[Harry]

8 hours ago, 6666 said:

Out of the players that have left , only Chamberlain can be considered an "asset" and he wasn't that influential. Alexis Sanchez would of course be a bigger deal but both are more a case of selling 2 players whose contracts are up and don't actually want to see out their final year and want to make the move happen now.

The bigger question is why we supposedly don't have money to spend now, which is what one of few reliable journalists, David Ornstein, has said. Theory is that Kroenke wants to build a new stadium for the LA Rams which could cost up to $2.5 billion and that's where Arsenal money is set to be invested... Obviously that might just be a case of people putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5

Can't believe we'd pay 40m for Chamberlain with a year on his contract with Sanchez available for potentially as little as 50m.

Maybe you guys will get Lemar with the Ox money...?