Cicero Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 Wouldn’t be opposed. Fixes the CB issue for next season and frees up funds for a GK and LB.
Rick Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 One a one year deal this is a good move for Chelsea. He’s still a quality CB even at his age.
carefreeluke Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 You know I don't watch him every week but from what I've seen of him over the years is that he isn't all that he's made out to be.
Spike Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 3 hours ago, carefreeluke said: You know I don't watch him every week but from what I've seen of him over the years is that he isn't all that he's made out to be. Could have watched his bad games exclusively!
El Profesor Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 3 hours ago, carefreeluke said: You know I don't watch him every week but from what I've seen of him over the years is that he isn't all that he's made out to be. He is. I'd put him up there with Sergio Ramos, Godín and Piqué as one of the best defenders of his generation. The criticism he gets in Brazil and France especially is from a different nature. He's got that image of him crying at the Brazil Chile match in 2014 stuck to him and many say he's weak mentally. I don't think this is a totally fair criticism, since the whole 2014 brazilian squad was a mess and he was great in 2018. Having said that, I'm not sure if a move to the Premier League at his age (he will be 36 in september) is a good idea. Fiorentina would be a safer destination.
carefreeluke Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 5 hours ago, El Profesor said: He is. I'd put him up there with Sergio Ramos, Godín and Piqué as one of the best defenders of his generation. The criticism he gets in Brazil and France especially is from a different nature. He's got that image of him crying at the Brazil Chile match in 2014 stuck to him and many say he's weak mentally. I don't think this is a totally fair criticism, since the whole 2014 brazilian squad was a mess and he was great in 2018. Having said that, I'm not sure if a move to the Premier League at his age (he will be 36 in september) is a good idea. Fiorentina would be a safer destination. Your opinion is probably worth more than mine mate. From what I’ve seen of them though, I’ve never been that impressed and to put him in the same bracket as Ramos and Godín for example for me is a big statement.
Devil-Dick Willie Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Yeah never rated him overly highly. He's certainly very good and intelligent, not a generation defining talent though, but I wouldn't say Pique is either.
Spike Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Sergio Ramos isn't even a generational defender, he is just a huge personality and a goal threat. If he didn't have that going for him, he'd be not much at all.
Devil-Dick Willie Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Best central defenders of the decade off the top of my head (at their peak, I don't want to hear about how X was shit last season) VVD Kompany Vidic Chiellini Godin I'd place Dante at his peak (lol) and frikkin Hummels whom I hate above Pique or Ramos in terms of defending.
Spike Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, Devil-Dick Willie said: Best central defenders of the decade off the top of my head (at their peak, I don't want to hear about how X was shit last season) VVD Kompany Vidic Chiellini Godin I'd place Dante at his peak (lol) and frikkin Hummels whom I hate above Pique or Ramos in terms of defending. Your right but I’d still pick Ramos first because he is a winner, a fucken beast of a player that just smashes cunts. Vidic was shit this decade, he peaked in 00s you madman
Devil-Dick Willie Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, Spike said: Your right but I’d still pick Ramos first because he is a winner, a fucken beast of a player that just smashes cunts. Vidic was shit this decade, he peaked in 00s you madman I'd take an uninjured 2010/11 Vidic over any cunt not on that list This is a level of defensing not possible today
Spike Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I'd take an uninjured 2010/11 Vidic over any cunt not on that list This is a level of defensing not possible today Look at my signature ya daft punk, the little egyptian prince was brought to tears because he couldn’t handle the andalusian bull
Mpache Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Thiago Silva Leonardo Bonucci Diego Godin Virgil Van Dijk Giorgio Chiellini Sergio Ramos Pique Also an honourable mention to Demichelis. He's definitely not one of the best this decade but I thought he got unfair slack as he did have the best world cup I've seen from a CB. He was also quite good at City when it mattered at the end of the season.
Devil-Dick Willie Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, Rick said: So, are we just ignoring Lovren in our lists? Of GENERATION DEFINING center backs of the decade? Yes. Absolutely we are.
Lucas Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 I don't think it's necessarily a *bad* idea from Chelsea. For a season he would help plug a gap, his experience obviously cannot be questioned but you do wonder whether the pace/intensity may catch up with him in the Premier League. The only weird thing I find with this particular target is that Chelsea seem to have gone down the road of planning for the future. Players who are young and approaching their peak years to take the team forward 3/4 years on. And this obviously isn't that. Centre back is obviously a weak position of theirs, I would have thought it would have been high priority and they may have tried to bring in someone around the same age as the players they had been signing, maybe 23/24, and say right, he is our centre back for the next 3 to 5 years.
Rick Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Of GENERATION DEFINING center backs of the decade? Yes. Absolutely we are. Bullshit that mate
Devil-Dick Willie Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Rick said: Bullshit that mate Take the red goggles off cunt
Bluewolf Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Lucas said: I don't think it's necessarily a *bad* idea from Chelsea. For a season he would help plug a gap, his experience obviously cannot be questioned but you do wonder whether the pace/intensity may catch up with him in the Premier League. The only weird thing I find with this particular target is that Chelsea seem to have gone down the road of planning for the future. Players who are young and approaching their peak years to take the team forward 3/4 years on. And this obviously isn't that. Centre back is obviously a weak position of theirs, I would have thought it would have been high priority and they may have tried to bring in someone around the same age as the players they had been signing, maybe 23/24, and say right, he is our centre back for the next 3 to 5 years. Although I agree about him being a possible a temporary gap filler with experience I also agree about the pace of the league and him being at the wrong end of the age bracket, One can only assume he would be used sparingly throughout the season.. We seem to be going from one extreme to the other here, either they are very young or we are going for much older players with nothing in between.. We would probably be better off going for players with experience around the 27/29 bracket so we can have a couple of seasons to settle on a decent back line without throwing away goals on a regular basis.. Having said that, with the level of fitness required in the game these days he could work out fine, that's if he is indeed going to be arriving..
Administrator Batard Posted August 24, 2020 Administrator Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Cicero said: 1-Year deal according to Sky 35 years old, almost zero pace. Will bring leadership and wisdom to the young dressing room though I've no doubt. Pro's outweigh the cons.
Dr. Gonzo Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 On 22/08/2020 at 02:18, Devil-Dick Willie said: Take the red goggles off cunt It’s a joke I’m pretty sure based off Lovren calling himself one of the best defenders in the world
Dr. Gonzo Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Also Thiago Silva is a top tier short term signing. He might be old, but he’s still clearly quality.
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